Official Immanuel Quickley Thread

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Masai needs another great trade foe Pascal while also shipping out Purtle...

One underrated aspect of this trade is Poeltl has a new pnr partner now. IQ will be a synergistic addition to this team.

[MMyhre]

Heya! I watched some vids of Quickley today and decided to analyze a bit, since I was curious if he could be something more for the Raptors due to his good +/- and advanced stats + steady improvements in stats. I have never seen a game obviously, so got no idea of defense and finer details but I observed many interesting things. Hope ya enjoy the read.

TLDR SUMMARY Immanuel Quickley

Strengths - Elite speed/horizontal athlete, first step, quickness, very hard to stay in front of going to his right, usually just gets into the paint at will, also just so quick that he can get by people going left as well, even though its not as good/fast as his right side driving, great 3pt shooter and is comfortable pulling up both going left and right, good at stepbacks in different directions, and good at creating separation with a fast and long setup step into his shot, when he is flowing he likes to do a through the legs from left to right into a stepback three which looks nice. Good floater, good finisher on his right side, good defender ? according to what I read, no idea myself, long wingspan which also allows him to get off his shots with a higher release, sturdy and very consistent set jump shot. Very good at setting up others on a fastbreak where he is most efficient at being the first guy pushing the pace blowing by people and then setting up the vertical guys like Toppin for the finish. Microwave ability, he goes on hot streaks. Good lobber? Seems to be decent at moving laterally.

Weaknesses - Almost non existent finishing on his left side, he just doesnt have the mechanics to jump off his right foot getting into a left handed finish, which makes him predictable/makes his layups tougher/easier to defend because he always has to leap off his left foot and then prefers go to his right hand (he can finish with his left hand but its usually off a left foot plant so awkward/weaker leap/balance), so he will sometimes have to go for tougher reverse finishes because he needs to jump a certain way to generate force/get balance. So this really hurts his ability to generate easier looks/angles and finishes to complement his ability to get into the rim. Slower going left than right, so quicker defenders seem to be able to keep up more often. Bad vertical athlete, doesnt have the ability to transition horizontal force (sprinting) into vertical force (jumping) efficently, so he just isnt able to get easier looks/finishes at the rim. Not much of a playmaker/not much vision or ability to set up 3pt shooters, usually looks for his own shot or a big near the rim. Predictable patterns. Wants to look for a pullup or go right and finish jumping off his left foot into a right foot finish primarily. Not an elite release speed on his shot, he needs to get into his set rhythm, albeit I saw him hit threes under pressure with a faster release. A bit too reliant on his 3 ball for scoring, especially efficency wise.

I found a video where you can see what im talking about with the left side problems, idk who this fat guy defender is, Williams it seems, terrible defense, but Quickley manages to go left, but because he is slower going left than to his right, it gives time for the help defender to rotate over, and because he cant jump off his right foot into a left foot layup for the easier angle and finish using the rim as a protection, he jumps off his left foot into a right hand finish literally jumping towards the defender creating a much tougher finish than was available on the left side and, and almost gets blocked instead. This worked here, but like thats the biggest limitation he has.

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What will he be for the Raptors? Idk honestly, I think a decent scoring option/rim pressurer/floor spacer/fastbreak player/defender?, but I think I wont say All Star after looking more, thats probably a reach with so many guys that can score just as good or better than him, but primarily playmake much better than him at the guard position. Also the predictability, lack of verticality and left side finishing leaves a lot to be desired, still a fun microwave player that can cause a lot of havoc with his speed and 3pt shooting.

[LarSiN]

Masai needs another great trade foe Pascal while also shipping out Purtle...

He’s done magic before with Bargnani, but I’m not sure anyone will be willing to take on an 80m albatross who’s a glorified garbage man around here.

Poeltl is far from an albatross contract come on man.

Yeah, that was a weird dismissal for sure. 20 per in 2024 is definitely not an albatross, but he'll benefit from IQ being here regardless

[LarSiN]

Simmons called this trade

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Heh, you're definitely giving him too much credit on this. Barrett for OG + Pick is HILARIOUS

[djsunyc]

bill simmons watches a random game - player A plays well in that game and simmons now thinks he's better than player B who he didn't watch play. he's entertaining but don't use him as a reference to anything. he's just there for entertainment.

[gha4life]

Is he a high iq player ? That's all am concerned abt , the ball iq on this team needs to Improve

[libertyYYZ]

Quickley's playoff numbers:

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Ah c'mon Rudy!

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Masai needs another great trade foe Pascal while also shipping out Purtle...

He’s done magic before with Bargnani, but I’m not sure anyone will be willing to take on an 80m albatross who’s a glorified garbage man around here.

Poeltl is far from an albatross contract come on man.

Yeah if IQ can be a decent pnr player it will increase Poeltl effectiveness.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

bill simmons watches a random game - player A plays well in that game and simmons now thinks he's better than player B who he didn't watch play. he's entertaining but don't use him as a reference to anything. he's just there for entertainment.

Has Lowe given his take yet.

[YogurtProducer]

He’s done magic before with Bargnani, but I’m not sure anyone will be willing to take on an 80m albatross who’s a glorified garbage man around here.

Poeltl is far from an albatross contract come on man.

Yeah if IQ can be a decent pnr player it will increase Poeltl effectiveness.

Hopefully IQ means Dennis is permanent bench player, and in turn we play Poeltl with the bench a lot more and let those two create on the PnR where they actually both thrive in.

IQ/GTJ/Barnes/Siakam/Poeltl
Dennis/Barrett/OPJ/Boucher

is actually a decent enough 9.

[JJWong17]

Really surprised by the reaction here. I really hate this deal. You shouldn’t have to give up OG and take on RJ’s contract just to have the pleasure of paying a combo guard $25m+ a year. On top of that, we threw in Precious.

This is a bad deal. How is OG untouchable in a Dame trade but not in a deal for IQ?

I think there's a decent chance Quickley is the best player in the deal. Masai overrated OG, and held onto him too long. It was obvious he wanted out two years ago, and then last year he changed agents to align himself with the Knicks. Masai did well to get rid of someone that didn't want to be here and bring back something immediately useful for him. So, yeah, in terms of what Masai could have gotten for him two years ago and potentially right before training camp, it's not as much, but on paper this is good value. Precious is a negative asset, I don't know why you think he adds to what the Knicks were getting back. He was straight crap for the last 1.5 years. Flynn as well. If they find roles there, good on them, but they weren't going to find success here.

RJ is 23. HIs contract is manageable and he eats minutes. He may eventually migrate to the bench, or iron out his 3PTer and become more efficient, but I doubt he'll get worse. This team needs guys that can shoot and handle, and they got two ballhandlers and one good shooter for a guy that wasn't committed.

If the rumours about how much money he wanted are true ($35-40 million per year), then moving him was inevitable. I wouldn't mind paying him that to finish off a team and elevate us into a true contender but the Raptors are too far away from that to justify the cost. And that's assuming he had a desire to come back

[YogurtProducer]

I found a video where you can see what im talking about with the left side problems, idk who this fat guy defender is, Williams it seems, terrible defense.

You don't know who **** Grant Williams is?

[JS_raptors]

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[djsunyc]

bill simmons watches a random game - player A plays well in that game and simmons now thinks he's better than player B who he didn't watch play. he's entertaining but don't use him as a reference to anything. he's just there for entertainment.

Has Lowe given his take yet.

not yet

[MMyhre]

I found a video where you can see what im talking about with the left side problems, idk who this fat guy defender is, Williams it seems, terrible defense.

You don't know who **** Grant Williams is?

Hahaha. I used to know every player in the NBA. In 2009-2010. Been in and out last couple of years! Some terrible lateral defense from The Williams there though!

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[douggood]

quickley and barrett have landed in toronto
where is the helicopter chase?
https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/C-GNSB

[Dennis 37]

His name is Immanuel btw

Not if Derrick Murray has anything to say about it.

[MMyhre]

Two excellent franchise building blocks with IQ and Scottie. Now time to identify and pair them with good 2-way complimentary pieces.

Scottie and Quickley.....younger Jokic/Murray??
Lets hope.

More like.. eh, Grant Hill and ... a faster Ben Gordon?

[LoveMyRaps]

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Elite lateral quickness.