ash_k wrote:DG88 wrote:ash_k wrote:
Posters like yourself had us at 30 wins/non-competitive team, the year we won 48 wins(including losing 3 against the Pistons)..one would think lessons have been learned since
IQ, RJ, Scottie and Jak are 7-7 Together without a training camp...the Bench has proven contributors to winning basketball in KO, Brown, Boucher then you got Gradey and the former 9th pick Baylor PG that many wanted badly just a couple of years ago now as our backup PG ..
It's on the coach
The coach manages personalities, the game and imprints their basketball philosophy on the team but the players are still the dominant factor in wins and losses. That same Raptors team that won 48 games had to rely solely on their starters to win games. They couldn't rely on their bench at all during that run. With the same coach weren't even .500 by February until they added a C. Even then it wasn't enough and that's with a championship coach. Is that the coach or the lack of talent on the roster? Boston Celtics were a 50 win team with Ime Udoka and were a 50 win team with Mazzulla. The only difference was the roster upgrades that were made on the team.
Sure Scottie, IQ, RJ and Jakob are 7-7. A 14 game sample is not enough to say we'll be a competitive team. Way to much variance and limited NBA minutes to say it's indicative of anything. Our bench has had a talent upgrade but it's mainly rookies. I'm not expecting a 33 year old Olynyk to make a big difference at this point in his career, especially defensively. Bruce Brown was hot and cold though he had a knee issue so I'll give him a pass but he's best as a utility player surrounded by better talent. Boucher barely played for Darko because he doesn't fit the system. Gradey is probably starting but he's still just in his second year and needs more reps. Davion Mitchell does provide PoA defense but how many minutes is he really going to play to make enough of a difference? After that it's rookies who will get minutes.
The FO and the head coach have stated we're rebuilding and the focus will be on development. We're going to.let the chips fall where they may. This team still isn't talented enough to compete and probably top out at the final Play-In spot at best.
The rebuild is done! The main positions are already set and paid for.
Now it is about finding out if those set positions have to be changed or not through their improvements and playoffs performances! I have had my doubts about IQ due his last playoffs appearances. But I have no doubts about Scottie and RJ under the pressure.
A so-called "Franchise changing talent player" cannot go 3 seasons without making the playoffs.
Unless there are significant injuries the team is not going to win just ~25/~30 games with RJ, IQ, Yak and Scottie and that bench. This aint Detroit. A RJ has averaged 20 points in the Eastern conference Semi-Finals.
The bench has Davion, Gradey, Brown(playing for a contract), KO, Boucher and rookies that will be given time to develop ala Bench mob days.
Poor teams like ATL and Chicago won 36 and 39 games respectively. Our Big 4 is superior than both of those teams. Orlando with similar talent went from 34 to 47. Our BIG have much higher winning pedigree than that Orlando team had; you can dismiss that 7-7 record from 3 TOP10 picks and the former runner up 6th man.
We already have a bad coach not maximizing the talent, now if Yak and Brown get traded in coming days then all bets are off.
it is on the coach
Ok Masai and Bobby.
