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[islandboy53]

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[AkelaLoneWolf]

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This is what I expected. They’re built to compete now. They’ll at least kick the tires on a trade.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

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I wonder of it can be part of a Durant package. I would like to see a Steph Durant butler lineup

[PushDaRock]

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This is what I expected. They’re built to compete now. They’ll at least kick the tires on a trade.

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

[mdenny]

Will luka extend this summer?

If he doesn't....it could become the biggest story of the year.

Do you know who could easily have cap space to sign him as a free agent? The spurs. They have Wemby and it's a 2 hour drive to Luka's new mansion.

I can see Luka refusing to sign with the Lakers. He was robbed of 100 million dollars by that trade. If word of the trade had leaked....Luka would've naturally said "if you trade for me....I will NOT extend with you". Only good business in protecting that extra 100 million.

End of day....the Lakers engaged in a secret trade that cost Luka 100 million dollars. The lakers participated in a scheme that resulted in that loss for him. Would ppl be shocked if he doesn't extend with them? I won't be. Plus it would be beautiful to watch the whole thing blow up in the Laker faces.

[mdenny]

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This is what I expected. They’re built to compete now. They’ll at least kick the tires on a trade.

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

[AkelaLoneWolf]

This is what I expected. They’re built to compete now. They’ll at least kick the tires on a trade.

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s a lot of contract to take for a diminishing player.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s a lot of contract to take for a diminishing player.

if it was, I would think about something like:

PG + 3 for RJ and Poeltl

I would do it for knowing if I locked up Maluach at #9 and draft Ace Bailey #3. then dangle the huge expiring of PG when the rookie contracts expire.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

This is what I expected. They’re built to compete now. They’ll at least kick the tires on a trade.

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s just a terrible trade. Pg will be 37 during his last year being clearly overpaid. With the new cap rules you can’t have that much dead cap on the books. All of that to risk for a player who’s not even a sure thing.

[sidsid]

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s just a terrible trade. Pg will be 37 during his last year being clearly overpaid. With the new cap rules you can’t have that much dead cap on the books. All of that to risk for a player who’s not even a sure thing.

You can't treat PG like he's Lillard with an Achilles tear. He's an aging star who's prime, team carrying days are behind him, but more than fine in that 2nd/3rd scoring role who can likely explode on occasion to carry an important game here or there in the playoffs.

If we wanted to get that 3rd pick I'd see no issues with moving BI and some bench depth to get it. PG would likely provide the bulk of what BI brings for 2 years and then you've got an expiring contract to peddle for an upgrade if needed.

[PushDaRock]

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s just a terrible trade. Pg will be 37 during his last year being clearly overpaid. With the new cap rules you can’t have that much dead cap on the books. All of that to risk for a player who’s not even a sure thing.

You can't treat PG like he's Lillard with an Achilles tear. He's an aging star who's prime, team carrying days are behind him, but more than fine in that 2nd/3rd scoring role who can likely explode on occasion to carry an important game here or there in the playoffs.

If we wanted to get that 3rd pick I'd see no issues with moving BI and some bench depth to get it. PG would likely provide the bulk of what BI brings for 2 years and then you've got an expiring contract to peddle for an upgrade if needed.

PG is 35 now and just put up a 16 ppg on 54 TS% season. You're assuming he will bounce back to be good enough in that 3rd scorer role, but history tells us he might be done all together.

[sidsid]

That’s just a terrible trade. Pg will be 37 during his last year being clearly overpaid. With the new cap rules you can’t have that much dead cap on the books. All of that to risk for a player who’s not even a sure thing.

You can't treat PG like he's Lillard with an Achilles tear. He's an aging star who's prime, team carrying days are behind him, but more than fine in that 2nd/3rd scoring role who can likely explode on occasion to carry an important game here or there in the playoffs.

If we wanted to get that 3rd pick I'd see no issues with moving BI and some bench depth to get it. PG would likely provide the bulk of what BI brings for 2 years and then you've got an expiring contract to peddle for an upgrade if needed.

PG is 35 now and just put up a 16 ppg on 54 TS% season. You're assuming he will bounce back to be good enough in that 3rd scorer role, but history tells us he might be done all together.

It's possible he's just completely washed, but it's still more likely that he's just done as a 3 level, advantage creating scorer and needs to adapt to his new limitations. He'll be a pick-his-spots type of guy who's still a great shooter for his size, with occasional bursts of excellence here or there. BI doesn't really care about getting to the rim and isn't much of a defender now anyway. It's why I think you'd still get decent enough relative production with the prize of a high pick to go with it.

[PushDaRock]

You can't treat PG like he's Lillard with an Achilles tear. He's an aging star who's prime, team carrying days are behind him, but more than fine in that 2nd/3rd scoring role who can likely explode on occasion to carry an important game here or there in the playoffs.

If we wanted to get that 3rd pick I'd see no issues with moving BI and some bench depth to get it. PG would likely provide the bulk of what BI brings for 2 years and then you've got an expiring contract to peddle for an upgrade if needed.

PG is 35 now and just put up a 16 ppg on 54 TS% season. You're assuming he will bounce back to be good enough in that 3rd scorer role, but history tells us he might be done all together.

It's possible he's just completely washed, but it's still more likely that he's just done as a 3 level, advantage creating scorer and needs to adapt to his new limitations. He'll be a pick-his-spots type of guy who's still a great shooter for his size, with occasional bursts of excellence here or there. BI doesn't really care about getting to the rim and isn't much of a defender now anyway. It's why I think you'd still get decent enough relative production with the prize of a high pick to go with it.

How effective do you think a 35 year old with an extensive injury history, lots of mileage and has these new limitations can be? The chances are better that he's washed than recovering to be a 2nd/3rd scorer on a playoff team.

BI is also 7 years younger, we can't act like that doesn't matter a lot when the vast majority of 35 year olds have been pushed out of the league long ago.

[JB7]

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This is Morey trying to save his reputation. His moves last summer, signing PG and extending Embiid, have left the Sixers with 2 deadweight max contracts running together for another 3 years. Sixers are screwed. On top of that, it looks like teams could be souring on Bailey as the 3rd pick. He apparently was only measured in at 6’4 without shoes.

[ForeverTFC]

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I wonder of it can be part of a Durant package. I would like to see a Steph Durant butler lineup

I don't think you can aggregate salaries in a sign and trade. Warriors will be limited at 120% of Kuminga's salary. Durant makes too much for him to be included in that deal.

[Tripod]

Could the Bucks do Kuzma, Portis, Pat C for George +3? Does that work capwise for both? Need a 3rd team?

This is not to try and keep Giannis. It's just about them adding youth with upside since they don't have their own picks and PG gives them a guy to flip later who might have value as a pending UFA.

Philly gets off a long term contract and gets playable depth for what they are doing...praying for health for Embiid someday.

But really Philly should just be drafting at #3 and add to Maxey and McCain. Make moves based on this new 3 and if Embiid/PG have a healthy season along the way, it's a bonus.

But it's also why you don't sign 35 year olds to big contracts. Better to walk away too early than too late.

[ciueli]

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This is Morey trying to save his reputation. His moves last summer, signing PG and extending Embiid, have left the Sixers with 2 deadweight max contracts running together for another 3 years. Sixers are screwed. On top of that, it looks like teams could be souring on Bailey as the 3rd pick. He apparently was only measured in at 6’4 without shoes.

It was 6'7.5" without shoes for Ace Bailey's height, you are off by a lot.

[TNRaps4life]

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Great mock

[ciueli]

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Great mock

Not great for us, great for the Nets I guess, Edgecombe at 8? Not going to happen. And no, the Hornets aren't desperate for a C, they have Nurkic and Mark Williams. This guy knows the Hornets aren't run by Jordan anymore, right?

[Thaddy]

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Great mock

Not great for us, great for the Nets I guess, Edgecombe at 8? Not going to happen. And no, the Hornets aren't desperate for a C, they have Nurkic and Mark Williams. This guy knows the Hornets aren't run by Jordan anymore, right?

I would guess we take Essengue in that case. He's hard to buy on but he fits what Masai loves. I would hope we go for Knueppel, but the lack of athleticism is definitely going to be a problem. At that stage I would look into the next tier and consider Traore or Bryant. They look to be of higher potential than NE.