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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#141 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 7:14 pm

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"NBA teams learned that the injury wasn't a setback. I got better and became more profound in all the different details of my game. I improved tremendously in aspects that I needed to work on, which showed in my athletic testing and shooting. I'm stronger mentally, physically and emotionally now."

Coward entered the NCAA transfer portal and in late April announced he has committed to Duke after taking an official visit, spurning interest from the likes of Alabama, Kansas, Washington and Florida.


"Even though I am staying in the draft, I picked Duke for a reason," Coward said. "I feel like I'm halfway in the brotherhood. This was a difficult decision at first, but after the combine it became a lot easier with the path I wanted to take. This was always the main goal. Even if I went to Duke, it would have been in order to get to this level. I feel like I am ready. It didn't hurt that I did pretty well at the Combine."

Coward's standing with NBA teams has risen amid a strong pre-draft process that boosted from him fringe prospect to projected first-round pick, resulting in his decision to remain in the draft without ever playing a single game for Duke.

He measured an enormous 7-foot-2¼ wingspan at the NBA draft combine, tested a 38½-inch max vertical leap, ranked as one of the best shooters in drills (making 71% of his aggregate attempts), and conducted a well-attended pro day in Los Angeles on Tuesday organized by Life Sports Agency, where he demonstrated his physical tools, perimeter shooting and conditioning.

Coward improbably started his career at Division III Willamette University in 2021, earning Northwest Conference Freshman of the Year honors. He transferred after his freshman year to Eastern Washington University, where he spent two seasons under head coach David Riley, becoming a Big Sky All-First Team member in 2024. When Riley was named coach of Washington State, Coward followed him to Pullman, Washington, appearing to be en route to an all-conference campaign in the WCC before injuring his shoulder.

A young senior, not turning 22 until Sept. 11, Coward fits a mold every NBA team is seeking with his length, perimeter shooting, defensive potential and late-blooming trajectory.

Coward, projected as the No. 30 pick in ESPN's latest mock draft, will be cleared for full contact activity on June 14. He said he has already visited two NBA teams for private one on zero workouts -- the Boston Celtics and Oklahoma City Thunder -- and has worked out in Los Angeles in front of another seven teams that came to evaluate him.


"I see myself as a draft pick," Coward said. "I'm looking for a team that wants to take a chance on me. I've gotten really positive feedback. A lot of teams have been coy, not showing exactly how they feel. It doesn't matter if it's a guarantee or not, there's still work ahead of me. There are only 59 picks. If I am fortunate to be one of those 59, it's all a blessing. If I am 1 or 59, it doesn't really matter. There's always work to be done. It doesn't matter what spot. It's more about what team will give me the opportunity to show what I can do on the court."

The NBA draft will be held June 25-26 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

Jonathan Givony is an NBA draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.



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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#142 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sat May 24, 2025 7:16 pm

I think I'd go Ced Coward at 9. Watch his Draft Combine interview, and you'll see why.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#143 » by Psubs » Sat May 24, 2025 7:18 pm

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mihaic wrote:Why is noone interested in Jakucionis. He is long, agile, stats look good. He was top 5 early on. He maintained his stats. Has that turn around scoop shot like Pascal, and Gary's sidestep (but while dribbling), 3pt looks good. Has the hesitation, changing speed, stops on a dime, uses pivot foot, good handle (based on highlights).

Honest question, I have only seen highlights. Is he bad on D? What else is missing? If we don't get KJ, I think Chicago will.

He looks like he could run the point, or play SG, then we can trade IQ or RJ or both, and perhaps Dick for another 40-50M player.

Draft a C backup with 2nd rounder, Boucher vet minimum.


I think a lot of people question his athleticism and how he’s going to get his shot off in the NBA. He had a bad second half of the season but how much of that is due to his injury? I think he’s the most likely to slip out of the lottery imo. Honestly seems destined to be a back up guard.


I could see his career going like Coby White. White is looking good on offense but slightly below average on defense. Just really don't think, he is what Darko is looking to add.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#144 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 7:20 pm

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What do the Nets have to offer for Harper?


Multiple picks in the first round of the 2025 draft (#8, #19, #26, #27) and future draft capital - 2026 1st round pick (BKN), 2027 1st round pick (via NYK), 2027 1st round pick (via PHI), 2027 1st round pick (BKN - swap rights to HOU), 2028 1st round pick (BKN), 2029 1st round pick (via NYK), 2029 1st round pick (BKN - swap rights to HOU, DAL, or PHX), 2030 1st round pick (BKN), 2031 1st round pick (BKN).


Smart move by the Nets, but I don’t think San Antonio needs more picks or future assets. I wonder if Cam Johnson is available? Cam Johnson, 8, plus more assets for #2? San Antonio could get a big, defensive wing or back up PG. I think that they need to swing for the fences and bring in a superstar while Vic is still on his rookie contract.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#145 » by Psubs » Sat May 24, 2025 7:24 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:I think I'd go Ced Coward at 9. Watch his Draft Combine interview, and you'll see why.


I would trade down to #13 and #22 to gamble on CC. I think Egor Demin gets back into the top 13 and Jase Richardson gets in there before CC.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#146 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat May 24, 2025 7:25 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Who names their kid Coward though?


Reminded me of….


Well, my daddy left home when I was three
Didn't leave very much to my mom and me
Except this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze
Now I don't blame him 'cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that my daddy ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me Coward

Well, he must've thought that it was quite a joke
And I got a lot of laughs from a lots of folk
Seems I had to fight my whole life through
Some gal would giggle and I'd turn red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head
I tell you, life ain't easy for a boy named Coward
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#147 » by rapsincr » Sat May 24, 2025 7:40 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#148 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sat May 24, 2025 7:43 pm

Masai sees this and he's going to take him:

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#149 » by TorontoRapsFan » Sat May 24, 2025 7:53 pm

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You trade Dick.

Given our financial situation, chances are we aren't able to bring back Boucher and we'd be in need of a back up PF. I'm not against drafting Fleming at all.

No need to develop him as hybrid 4/5. We can use our second rounder to bring in a C.

Quickley/Shead
Barrett/Walter/Coward
Ingram/Walter/Coward
Barnes/Dick trade
Poeltl/ #39

We'd probably be looking at something like this, which should get us into the playoffs.


I guess you don't like Mogbo? He's getting backup minutes at 5, 4 and 3 depending on who else is available.


Mogbo isn't big enough but can guard 2-4 effectively and is a decent, cheap glue guy. I think even Carter Bryant is already the same size as Mogbo that can hit the 3.


Mogbo has a reach similar to most centers in the league. 7'2 wingspan and 9 feet standing reach. He can definitely be a small ball C.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#150 » by Clutch0z24 » Sat May 24, 2025 8:14 pm

Masai will get it right...Atm i think you have to look at Cedric as a legit option at 9 the mid range ability mixed with the 3 point shot and the fact he takes pride shutting players down....Sounds like a good gamble at 9...

Jase or Cedric id be good with at 9....We need a scorer and i think both these guys have that upside along with defensive abilities...The rest of the guys have utility player upsides...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#153 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 9:00 pm

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mihaic wrote:Why is noone interested in Jakucionis. He is long, agile, stats look good. He was top 5 early on. He maintained his stats. Has that turn around scoop shot like Pascal, and Gary's sidestep (but while dribbling), 3pt looks good. Has the hesitation, changing speed, stops on a dime, uses pivot foot, good handle (based on highlights).

Honest question, I have only seen highlights. Is he bad on D? What else is missing? If we don't get KJ, I think Chicago will.

He looks like he could run the point, or play SG, then we can trade IQ or RJ or both, and perhaps Dick for another 40-50M player.

Draft a C backup with 2nd rounder, Boucher vet minimum.


I think a lot of people question his athleticism and how he’s going to get his shot off in the NBA. He had a bad second half of the season but how much of that is due to his injury? I think he’s the most likely to slip out of the lottery imo. Honestly seems destined to be a back up guard.


I could see his career going like Coby White. White is looking good on offense but slightly below average on defense. Just really don't think, he is what Darko is looking to add.


He had similar numbers to White in college. Although I think White is a bit more athletic and has more on ball juice. Kind of plays like a poor man’s Haliburton. From what I saw from Jak I wasn’t too impressed and I haven’t heard that the combine or anything has boosted his stock.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#154 » by djsunyc » Sat May 24, 2025 9:02 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I’ve made sort of a hard pivot of late and would like us to consider Jase/Kasp/Fears (if there) and look into moving IQ. I think RJ will be more valuable as a player moving forward and I think IQ is presently being overpaid.

Not sure what deal is out there but I’d make a consolidation trade with IQ and Dick to get around 40 million and see who we can get.

There is a Jak/IQ/Dick for Sabonis/Carter deal that can be made that allows us to still draft someone like Jase and have Carter/Jase/Walter run the ‘1’ and leave the bulk of the playmaking to Sabonis, Ingram, Scottie, RJ who are all 5+ assist guys

Pretty extreme roster change that depends on Scottie going up a level defensively to make up for Sabonis but it boosts the offensive floor even more and allocates IQ’s money to an actual star player. If Scottie takes a leap were even more stacked


if we want to try for the playoffs next year, trading IQ would hurt us so much offensively
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#155 » by bballsparkin » Sat May 24, 2025 9:07 pm

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Psubs wrote:He seems like Goran Dragic 2.0. He might not even take minutes from Ja'Kobe. Egor Demin as a jumbo creator should get drafted before Jak.


Goran Dragic 2.0 takes minutes away from every back court player on our team. He made All NBA one year for petes sake. He was like Steve Nash lite at his peak. That player goes top 9 in almost any re-draft.


Not to mention GD 2.0 plus some height. Sign me up.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#156 » by bballsparkin » Sat May 24, 2025 9:09 pm

Clay Davis wrote:Goran Dragic 1.0 took the starting PG spot from Kyle Lowry 1.0. He had the rizz in his day.

Ok guys I have a proposition. Immanuel Quickley + Gradey Dick f+ #9 or #2 plus Paul George's contract. Does that work? I think Philly would like it. I think we'd be giving up too much... but hey, if Harper turns into an All-NBA PG in 5 years, then it's worth it.


This post showed promise. I was gonna text it to my friend. But ultimately the post's rizz lacks fizz. Philly picking #3. No dice.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#157 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat May 24, 2025 9:13 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#158 » by Clay Davis » Sat May 24, 2025 9:39 pm

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Clay Davis wrote:Goran Dragic 1.0 took the starting PG spot from Kyle Lowry 1.0. He had the rizz in his day.

Ok guys I have a proposition. Immanuel Quickley + Gradey Dick f+ #9 or #2 plus Paul George's contract. Does that work? I think Philly would like it. I think we'd be giving up too much... but hey, if Harper turns into an All-NBA PG in 5 years, then it's worth it.


This post showed promise. I was gonna text it to my friend. But ultimately the post's rizz lacks fizz. Philly picking #3. No dice.

Hello send me your friend's number I will text. WhatsApp. Viber. Signal. Telegram. Passenger Pigeon. My rizz has more fizz than Mountain Dew with added C02.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#159 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat May 24, 2025 11:02 pm

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:I think I'd go Ced Coward at 9. Watch his Draft Combine interview, and you'll see why.


I would trade down to #13 and #22 to gamble on CC. I think Egor Demin gets back into the top 13 and Jase Richardson gets in there before CC.

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Next group: Jak/Essengue/Traore/Sorber/McNeeley/Riley/Newell


I don't think Coward will be there at #13.

I expect Bryant, Richardson and Demin to all find themselves in the lower half of the lotto and CMB to drop out of it.

I can't see Coward making it past #12 with Chicago at the latest.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#160 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat May 24, 2025 11:06 pm

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I guess you don't like Mogbo? He's getting backup minutes at 5, 4 and 3 depending on who else is available.


Mogbo isn't big enough but can guard 2-4 effectively and is a decent, cheap glue guy. I think even Carter Bryant is already the same size as Mogbo that can hit the 3.


Mogbo has a reach similar to most centers in the league. 7'2 wingspan and 9 feet standing reach. He can definitely be a small ball C.


He can play it in spurts but I think he'd be miscast as a C. His best position is SF/PF and I'd prefer to see him get as many minutes there as possible if he's going to play.

We've already tried this small ball C thing before bringing back Poeltl and we saw how that went.
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