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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#141 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:13 pm

Not sure why there's all this Pistons talk on the front page. Duren has been playing way better than AD and he's way younger. Dude looks like prime Dwight Howard physique wise
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#142 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:15 pm

iBall101 wrote:The package gotta be Jakob + IQ. No way is RJ being dealt. I would bet on it. Bobby gets out both of those contracts while Raps form a big 3 of Ingram-Barnes-AD.


Have to be a massive believer in AD's health to make this trade which doesn't sound like a smart proposition. This is the type of trade you get excited about and then the bag you got blows up in your face and you're stuck with a 50+M contract for a guy playing 40 games a year
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#143 » by tsherkin » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:16 pm

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Offensively, yes. Defensively heck no.


Sure, it wouldn't be an amazing defensive duo. They do have the bigs to theoretically work around that, especially since they aren't shaping up to contend with any vigor any time immediate, though.


If they’re looking to lose, sure - they can acquire Trae. Would he stay if that’s the plan? Probably not.


A PG like that on their team would generally make up for it on the offensive end, I'd think. It wouldn't be the first time. He has issues on D, but he's a fantastic offensive player, and so is Kyrie. Especially with AD and Flagg, they'd be okay. Remember, they're presently a top-7 defense right now. They'd have some wiggle room on that end, and that's before Flagg really gets going.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#144 » by Merit » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:19 pm

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Sure, it wouldn't be an amazing defensive duo. They do have the bigs to theoretically work around that, especially since they aren't shaping up to contend with any vigor any time immediate, though.


If they’re looking to lose, sure - they can acquire Trae. Would he stay if that’s the plan? Probably not.


A PG like that on their team would generally make up for it on the offensive end, I'd think. It wouldn't be the first time. He has issues on D, but he's a fantastic offensive player, and so is Kyrie. Especially with AD and Flagg, they'd be okay. Remember, they're presently a top-7 defense right now. They'd have some wiggle room on that end, and that's before Flagg really gets going.


I’m going to agree to disagree. First off, they’re trading AD. Secondly, they’re also likely to trade at least one of their bigs. Thirdly, while yes - flagg is solid and they have some rim protection, Trae gives up way too much. You think either of Kyrie or Trae could handle RJ? Mitchell? Cade? Brown? Nahhhh.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#145 » by Merit » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:26 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I agree with Trae being underrated overall. He’s basically Steph lite. He needs a system that caters to his strengths and insulates his weaknesses. Incidentally, the Raptors could probably provide that if we moved on from IQ. That would be a win/win trade.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#146 » by mtcan » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:27 pm

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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#147 » by Spates » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:32 pm

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Spates wrote:I guess he's going to Atlanta. Trae and change for AD


Did you forget Dallas still has Kyrie?


Big difference in styles between those two. Trae is a very good playmaker. Kyrie is much more of a scorer, and is also pretty capable off-ball, whereas Trae is a lot less useful without the ball in his hands. They'd co-exist well enough, the way Kyrie did with Luka and Lebron.

Theoretically, in terms of offensive skillset, they could certainly co-exist. Though it would be a hazardous defensive pairing. Even if Kyrie holds his own defensively I'd question how he fairs once Trae would enter the picture given that Trae is such a liability. He'd immediately put pressure on everyone to compensate and I'm not sure that Kyrie is an ideal backcourt partner in that scenario
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#148 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:44 pm

mtcan wrote:I want nothing to do with Street Clothes


Our current big man (who is likely to head the other away) is pretty close to Street Clothes himself
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#149 » by mtcan » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:46 pm

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mtcan wrote:I want nothing to do with Street Clothes


Our current big man (who is likely to head the other away) is pretty close to Street Clothes himself

At half the salary.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#150 » by navyblue » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:56 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Not sure why there's all this Pistons talk on the front page. Duren has been playing way better than AD and he's way younger. Dude looks like prime Dwight Howard physique wise

davis makes some sense at the PF position for them
ivey, 2026 late 1st and tobais harris, filler salary is a pacakage that makes some sense from detroit side.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#151 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:56 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
mtcan wrote:I want nothing to do with Street Clothes


Our current big man (who is likely to head the other away) is pretty close to Street Clothes himself


Someone on X posted statmuse screenshots that Poeltl has only played 4 more games than AD over the last 4 seasons. That surprised me. Want nothing to do with AD though.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#152 » by Thaddy » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:07 am

F__k no. Between him and Ingram we'll be the biggest what if team in nba history.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#153 » by HMFFL » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:22 am

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JB7 wrote:Just Dallas throwing the Raps name in there to drive up the price. AD makes no sense on the Raps. Contracts for AD, Barnes and BI would absorb all of the teams money. Unless they are trading one of Barnes or BI, which also makes no sense.
If you can get AD for a future first and fillers he could be a benefical addition. I consider myself a hard critic of AD, but with Tatum out for Boston, and Hali for Indy, I think the Raptors need to do something. A run can be made to represent the East in the finals and I would like to see that happen.

AD is broken. Sure, he'd be fine on a team like LA where he can be the supporting role, but he would be shouldering such a load here in Toronto and the team isn't deep enough to get around that. I get that the East is wide open, but this move would be incredibly short-sighted.
I won't deny that he's broken.
That has been my take about him.
I just see a small gray area where the Raps can possibility make a significant run at the title and I would love to see it happen. Maybe it will be Giannis.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#154 » by Kobe Anunoby » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:28 am

there's no way the raptors actually have interest right? this isn't the guy you throw your accumulated chips at. we just always get included in these superstar for rent rumons because of the Kawhi deal....right?
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#155 » by HMFFL » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:33 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:Actually save money doing poeltl and RJ or IQ package. Smart move


Depends on what is needed to acquire AD.

RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley hold significant value and should be kept in this case.
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#156 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:41 am

navyblue wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Not sure why there's all this Pistons talk on the front page. Duren has been playing way better than AD and he's way younger. Dude looks like prime Dwight Howard physique wise

davis makes some sense at the PF position for them
ivey, 2026 late 1st and tobais harris, filler salary is a pacakage that makes some sense from detroit side.


I doubt that's the best package the Mavs can get but if that's all it took I guess it makes sense for Detroit
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#157 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:42 am

Merit wrote:Don’t get me wrong, I agree with Trae being underrated overall. He’s basically Steph lite. He needs a system that caters to his strengths and insulates his weaknesses. Incidentally, the Raptors could probably provide that if we moved on from IQ. That would be a win/win trade.


I used to be semi in on Trae but he's actually never been a good high volume 3pt shooter and does nothing when he doesn't have the ball in his hands
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#158 » by ontnut » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:56 am

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ontnut wrote:I really like AD, but I don't see this as the right time to make such a trade. Also...Scottie/Ingram/AD seems like a problematic spacing thing.


He has range out to the 3 and his main action is the mid-range. He's also a superstar with the gravity that comes with. He would be replacing Jak, who is a non-shooter who defenses ignore.

This is a pure, massive upgrade in those respects.

He does come with a lot more usage than Jak, but RJ would be out the door in this trade and it's a good chunk of offense that he could soak up.

He's got a very similar area as BI. We've seen this exact same thing with Bosh and JO. It didn't work then...what makes you think it would work now?
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#159 » by tms » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:59 am

Crazy how (immanuel) quickly players age out of the league these days. AD got dealt for Luka in Feb and he's already chopped liver to some
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Re: Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis 

Post#160 » by Prestige » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:06 am

Very bad idea. This would be a desperation move that will backfire.

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