With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

[Stromile12]

Rip

[junot111]

Where do you rank the citrus wars?

This is a top 5 moment in realgm history for me. No way somebody really got exposed plagiarizing a reddit comment bar for bar. Wow

What was that about? All I remember off the top of my head is may tricks championship but I know I'm forgetting some things

[Psubs]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

During this season, Jameson Battle has shown that he can work on things and shuffle his feet. Gradey needs to focus on that, and just shoot more on balance. Just practice with Battle.

[junot111]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

[Naysorn]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

[junot111]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

Agree that it's rare to develop defense as a perimeter defender especially if they don't have size or athleticism to work with. It's also possible the development happens behind the scenes because depending on the environment, they might not even get minutes until they show that they can defend, so in those cases the progress is not as obvious.

JJ Reddick is the first player that comes to mind who was never a good defender but was smart enough to not be a complete liability on that end that it outweighed his offensive contributions. Playing for SVG early in his career probably forced him to mature quickly on D. But it also helped that he got to play with Dwight, DAJ and Embiid lol

[dballislife]

During this season, Jameson Battle has shown that he can work on things and shuffle his feet. Gradey needs to focus on that, and just shoot more on balance. Just practice with Battle.

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

we are doing great work on this forum keep it up

[Kurtz]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

Korver and Reddick were both sieves defensively at first and then became quite average. Dick has the size and athleticism to be an average NBA defender I think.

[TimeForChange]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

hahaha

[TimeForChange]

JKW looks like to be a guy who can score within the flow of the offense, or you can give him the ball and he can breakdown the defender and create his shot... and he's already a good defender. I'm getting Eddie Jones vibes when I watch JKW, he has a rare archetype, and a ton of potential.

It's going to be interesting to see if he can build off his rookie season, and take his game to the next level. He's a natural hooper, and if he can be a guy who can lockdown the opposing guard, and give you an efficient 20 a night when he's older, that's a great player for us. The only players I'd be comfortable taking over JKW from the 2024 draft would be Castle, and Rissacher. JKW in my eyes has allstar potential.

Sarr, Castle, Risacher, McCain, Wells, Clingan, Bub, Holland, Ware, Edwards and Edey, just off the top of my head, all clear Ja'Kobe

[DKB333]

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

Korver and Reddick were both sieves defensively at first and then became quite average. Dick has the size and athleticism to be an average NBA defender I think.

I know this is stating the obvious but he needs to get a lot stronger. He also needs to work on his above the break 3s and his handle. Every time he lets a wide open one fly I still think it will be a brick.

[Psubs]

During this season, Jameson Battle has shown that he can work on things and shuffle his feet. Gradey needs to focus on that, and just shoot more on balance. Just practice with Battle.

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

we are doing great work on this forum keep it up

WTF?!?!

[Naysorn]

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

Korver and Reddick were both sieves defensively at first and then became quite average. Dick has the size and athleticism to be an average NBA defender I think.

I know this is stating the obvious but he needs to get a lot stronger. He also needs to work on his above the break 3s and his handle. Every time he lets a wide open one fly I still think it will be a brick.

i mean he improved this year

he'll keep improving and eventually have a breakout year where hes up for MIP like austin reaves this year

[mademan]

Korver and Reddick were both sieves defensively at first and then became quite average. Dick has the size and athleticism to be an average NBA defender I think.

I know this is stating the obvious but he needs to get a lot stronger. He also needs to work on his above the break 3s and his handle. Every time he lets a wide open one fly I still think it will be a brick.

i mean he improved this year

he'll keep improving and eventually have a breakout year where hes up for MIP like austin reaves this year

Gradey's big problem isnt defense. It's really a problem because he isnt what he's billed as - a Redick level elite shooter. Dick has no real place as a starer if he's not one of the top shooters in the league, and thats just not who he is.

[youngRAPZ]

Ja'Kobe has usurped Gradey in terms of both short and long term solution as starting SG for this team.

Gradey might have slightly more offensive upside, but JW is the better all around player by far IMO. I still think Gradey has a place on this team but moreso as an off the bench scorer.

Walter’s defense is already a clear strength, but what’s really surprised me is how solid his offensive fundamentals are, especially compared to Gradey. His handle is more advanced, and he plays with greater poise on the ball. Gradey often looks rushed in similar situations. As a rookie, Walter is already making better passing reads and showing a natural feel for playmaking.

What stands out even more is the variety in his offensive toolkit. He’s shown the ability to put defenders in jail, bait fouls with craft, and pull off slow step finishes like the one in the Sixers game. He just feels more wired as a true hooper, someone who plays with instinct and versatility.

That’s not a knock on Gradey. I still trust his shot more right now. But in terms of overall offensive upside, Walter feels more exciting and complete at this point.

If Walter was in this draft with what we know he'd be a shoe in top 5 pick after the main 3.

Wtf...I posted that on Reddit. We plagiarizing Reddit posts now? Bitch get your own thoughts lmao

This is EPIC!


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[DKB333]

I know this is stating the obvious but he needs to get a lot stronger. He also needs to work on his above the break 3s and his handle. Every time he lets a wide open one fly I still think it will be a brick.

i mean he improved this year

he'll keep improving and eventually have a breakout year where hes up for MIP like austin reaves this year

Gradey's big problem isnt defense. It's really a problem because he isnt what he's billed as - a Redick level elite shooter. Dick has no real place as a starer if he's not one of the top shooters in the league, and thats just not who he is.

Well said.

[CazOnReal]

JKW looks like to be a guy who can score within the flow of the offense, or you can give him the ball and he can breakdown the defender and create his shot... and he's already a good defender. I'm getting Eddie Jones vibes when I watch JKW, he has a rare archetype, and a ton of potential.

It's going to be interesting to see if he can build off his rookie season, and take his game to the next level. He's a natural hooper, and if he can be a guy who can lockdown the opposing guard, and give you an efficient 20 a night when he's older, that's a great player for us. The only players I'd be comfortable taking over JKW from the 2024 draft would be Castle, and Rissacher. JKW in my eyes has allstar potential.

Sarr, Castle, Risacher, McCain, Wells, Clingan, Bub, Holland, Ware, Edwards and Edey, just off the top of my head, all clear Ja'Kobe

I know you didn't claim Bub "Bottom 5 in FG%" Carrington clears Ja'Kobe.

[HumbleRen]

JKW looks like to be a guy who can score within the flow of the offense, or you can give him the ball and he can breakdown the defender and create his shot... and he's already a good defender. I'm getting Eddie Jones vibes when I watch JKW, he has a rare archetype, and a ton of potential.

It's going to be interesting to see if he can build off his rookie season, and take his game to the next level. He's a natural hooper, and if he can be a guy who can lockdown the opposing guard, and give you an efficient 20 a night when he's older, that's a great player for us. The only players I'd be comfortable taking over JKW from the 2024 draft would be Castle, and Rissacher. JKW in my eyes has allstar potential.

Sarr, Castle, Risacher, McCain, Wells, Clingan, Bub, Holland, Ware, Edwards and Edey, just off the top of my head, all clear Ja'Kobe

I know you didn't claim Bub "Bottom 5 in FG%" Carrington clears Ja'Kobe.

Jakobe has a worse FG despite Bub’s shot diet being significantly harder than Jakobe’s.

I like Jakobe but we don’t have to **** on Bub with misinfo to prop up Jakobe.

[CazOnReal]

Sarr, Castle, Risacher, McCain, Wells, Clingan, Bub, Holland, Ware, Edwards and Edey, just off the top of my head, all clear Ja'Kobe

I know you didn't claim Bub "Bottom 5 in FG%" Carrington clears Ja'Kobe.

Jakobe has a worse FG despite Bub’s shot diet being significantly harder than Jakobe’s.

I like Jakobe but we don’t have to **** on Bub with misinfo to prop up Jakobe.

In my defense, it was true during the start of the season where Bub and Conley were amongst the bottom 5 in FG%. That said, it's not like Bub is notably more efficient (40.4 to 39.9, TS% of 51.9 to 51.4) so i'm not exactly blown away by his improvement when Walter hasn't gotten anywhere near the same runway that Carrington has, even if it's largely been due to his absence.

[yellowknifer]

gradey is in deep trouble which i hope will make him work even harder this summer...ochai, walter, and shead should get a lot of bench time next season along with gradey...and minus khaman and queen, theres a lot of perimeter 1-3 positional guys in our range which could eat up even more minutes

Amidst the season, J. Battle has demonstrated improvement such as moving his feet. G. Dick should hone in on this aspect, and try to shoot on balance more. He'd benefit from practicing with J. Battle. Just my two cents.

are there historical examples of players like gradey who sucked on defense that became good defenders?

feels like defense is the hardest skill to develop over time esp for guards

ive seen guards become shooters tho like jason kidd

He probably won’t ever be a good defender. But he hustles. Makes a lot of mental errors right now on top of the physical limitations. He isn’t a horrible athlete, but some guys will always cook him. He needs to be guarding guys who are a little slower footed. You will have to hide him. But he sometimes flashes nice help and off ball decision making. He could eventually be alright.