2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[WuTang_CMB]

fwiw doug smith says toronto wants to get into the top 10 , was told they had a guy they were targeting in that range

lol

Do there is a link ? I can’t find any new article with Doug Smith about getting in top10!

nothing to get excited for
not happening

[CazOnReal]

2nd pick prospects in order of most to least interesting (Assuming availability at 31):

Tyler Smith
Johnathan Mogbo
Ryan Dunn
Ulrich Chomche
Kyshaun George
Bobi Klintman
Justin Edwards

[CazOnReal]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

"If they had stayed in the lottery and kept the top 6 pick, they had a guy that they really wanted."

[DreamTeam09]

2nd pick prospects in order of most to least interesting (Assuming availability at 31):

Tyler Smith
Johnathan Mogbo
Ryan Dunn
Ulrich Chomche
Kyshaun George
Bobi Klintman
Justin Edwards

Those are the guys I like from this group. Klintman is the one I've seen mocked to us repeatedly.
I have seen Tyler Smith falling to us too..
I haven't seen Ky mocked in the 2nd yet

[aminiaturebuddha]

There isn't a single player in this draft worth giving up assets to trade up for.
Maybe Rischarer because of the perfect fit n potential, but that's about it.

Agreed. I don't like the idea of trading up.

But I also am not sure we need to read too much into these rumours. Unless they're trading up for the 1st or 2nd pick, it doesn't make any sense to move up target one player two weeks before the draft in such a chaotic draft where everyone's draft boards are different and no one has any idea how the picks will go.

So I doubt they're actually "trying to move up with one target in mind". If anything, they're probably just doing their due diligence and seeing what it would take to move up if there's a player that they really like who seems like he'd be available at an interesting spot in the lottery. Just keeping options option and gaining knowledge beforehand.

[Psubs]

It's Tidjane Salaun

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

What about Cody Williams

I don't see what Cody Williams does much better than Gradey. Seems like duplication.

[CazOnReal]

That would be my guess as well, and I hate it. Matas is also very much a Masai type.

What about Cody Williams

I don't see what Cody Williams does much better than Gradey. Seems like duplication.

Better defender and they don't play the same position so I don't see the point in comparing the two? Gradey's best minutes were when he played the 2 instead of the 3.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

What about Cody Williams

I don't see what Cody Williams does much better than Gradey. Seems like duplication.

Better defender and they don't play the same position so I don't see the point in comparing the two? Gradey's best minutes were when he played the 2 instead of the 3.

Yea he can be a true 2-way player

[grant101]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

"If they had stayed in the lottery and kept the top 6 pick, they had a guy that they really wanted."

Ok, this makes me think it's Sarr, which wouldn't surprise me given his similarly to Mobley and the well-reported interest Masai had in trading up to draft him.

[SpezNc]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

"If they had stayed in the lottery and kept the top 6 pick, they had a guy that they really wanted."

My guess the guy could be Topic ? Maybe a Darko’s connection ? If they had a guy in mind should the pick did not convey it means a top6 pick if not top4

I don’t think it’s Salaun .

[ForeverTFC]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

"If they had stayed in the lottery and kept the top 6 pick, they had a guy that they really wanted."

My guess the guy could be Topic ? Maybe a Darko’s connection ? If they had a guy in mind should the pick did not convey it means a top6 pick if not top4

I don’t think it’s Salaun .

I doubt they move because of Darko. The one thing this franchise does well consistently is drafting. They're not going to go against their process.

With that said, since Doug said it, we can be assured we are not trading up and be fairly confident that they hate everyone in the top 10.

[_MidNight_]

9th pick + Kennard for Poeltl + 19th + 31st pick from Vecenie’s mock podcast

Raps take Salaun with 9th pick. Yay or nay?

Catching up on what's happening in this thread so I'm late to the show as I'm on vacation.

This is absolute nasty work by Vecenie.

[DG88]

Offseason priorities

The $23 million Bruce Brown team option. The Raptors could open cap flexibility if the option is declined but would lose a future trade chip.

The Scottie Barnes rookie max extension. Barnes is eligible to sign a five-year, $215 million extension. The contract would be the largest in franchise history.

The cost to retain restricted free agent Immanuel Quickley. The average starting point guard salary is $26 million.

The 2024 draft

First: No. 19 (via IND)

Second: No. 31 (via DET)

Draft notebook

The Raptors own two interesting picks in the middle of the draft at Nos. 19 and 31. The type of players they target might signal what their urgency level is to get back to the playoffs, after transitioning to a much younger roster built around Barnes. As constituted, they're still a long way from returning. It might make sense to focus on developmental upside with at least one of their picks, considering there are plenty of young players who need minutes already on board. -- Woo

Team needs

3-point shooting

Point guard depth

Bench scoring at the wings

Backup big

Quickley signed to a reasonable deal

Off-ball offensive development from Barnes

Future draft assets rating: 7 out of 10

The Raptors have their own first in the next seven years and a 2026 top-four-protected first from Indiana. The first is top-four protected in 2027 if not conveyed. Toronto has six second-round picks available.

Cash: $7.0 million (to send) | $7.0 million (to receive)

Cap space breakdown: The Raptors are in position to have cap space for the first time since 2015 if they decline the $23 million Brown option and renounce all their free agents except Quickley. If the option is declined, Toronto could create up to $28 million in room. The Raptors have a $10.1 million trade exception available.

CBA impact: There are no trade restrictions for Toronto.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40286276/nba-free-agency-2024-priorities-player-needs-30-teams-draft-outlook#tor

Reason why we will still be bad next year. We can't fill all of those needs in one offseason.

[DreamTeam09]

Offseason priorities

The $23 million Bruce Brown team option. The Raptors could open cap flexibility if the option is declined but would lose a future trade chip.

The Scottie Barnes rookie max extension. Barnes is eligible to sign a five-year, $215 million extension. The contract would be the largest in franchise history.

The cost to retain restricted free agent Immanuel Quickley. The average starting point guard salary is $26 million.

The 2024 draft

First: No. 19 (via IND)

Second: No. 31 (via DET)

Draft notebook

The Raptors own two interesting picks in the middle of the draft at Nos. 19 and 31. The type of players they target might signal what their urgency level is to get back to the playoffs, after transitioning to a much younger roster built around Barnes. As constituted, they're still a long way from returning. It might make sense to focus on developmental upside with at least one of their picks, considering there are plenty of young players who need minutes already on board. -- Woo

Team needs

3-point shooting

Point guard depth

Bench scoring at the wings

Backup big

Quickley signed to a reasonable deal

Off-ball offensive development from Barnes

Future draft assets rating: 7 out of 10

The Raptors have their own first in the next seven years and a 2026 top-four-protected first from Indiana. The first is top-four protected in 2027 if not conveyed. Toronto has six second-round picks available.

Cash: $7.0 million (to send) | $7.0 million (to receive)

Cap space breakdown: The Raptors are in position to have cap space for the first time since 2015 if they decline the $23 million Brown option and renounce all their free agents except Quickley. If the option is declined, Toronto could create up to $28 million in room. The Raptors have a $10.1 million trade exception available.

CBA impact: There are no trade restrictions for Toronto.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40286276/nba-free-agency-2024-priorities-player-needs-30-teams-draft-outlook#tor

Reason why we will still be bad next year. We can't fill all of those needs in one offseason.

3pt shooting could come from The MLE PG or Big that we go after.
#19 will solve one of the PG Depth or Big man Depth
Trent can be 3pt shooting/scoring from the bench wings.
A Brown trade will add a starter with some yrs attached, or a bench player (one that possibly shoot 3s)

[Indeed]

There isn't a single player in this draft worth giving up assets to trade up for.
Maybe Rischarer because of the perfect fit n potential, but that's about it.

Agreed. I don't like the idea of trading up.

But I also am not sure we need to read too much into these rumours. Unless they're trading up for the 1st or 2nd pick, it doesn't make any sense to move up target one player two weeks before the draft in such a chaotic draft where everyone's draft boards are different and no one has any idea how the picks will go.

So I doubt they're actually "trying to move up with one target in mind". If anything, they're probably just doing their due diligence and seeing what it would take to move up if there's a player that they really like who seems like he'd be available at an interesting spot in the lottery. Just keeping options option and gaining knowledge beforehand.

More like Memphis wants to trade down to reduce their salary, and that ended up us wanting to trade up.
Probably other FO wants to make use of us, instead of saying it was them want to make a fire sale.

[Indeed]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40286276/nba-free-agency-2024-priorities-player-needs-30-teams-draft-outlook#tor

Reason why we will still be bad next year. We can't fill all of those needs in one offseason.

3pt shooting could come from The MLE PG or Big that we go after.
#19 will solve one of the PG Depth or Big man Depth
Trent can be 3pt shooting/scoring from the bench wings.
A Brown trade will add a starter with some yrs attached, or a bench player (one that possibly shoot 3s)

I don't think you understand it right, we need one single player or two to fill all those needs (aka getting a star player), not having multiple role players where they can't get minutes.

For example, 3 point shooting main issue is Barnes and Poeltl, you can't get help when this is 20%+ of the minutes.

[SpezNc]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

My guess the guy could be Topic ? Maybe a Darko’s connection ? If they had a guy in mind should the pick did not convey it means a top6 pick if not top4

I don’t think it’s Salaun .

I doubt they move because of Darko. The one thing this franchise does well consistently is drafting. They're not going to go against their process.

With that said, since Doug said it, we can be assured we are not trading up and be fairly confident that they hate everyone in the top 10.

I was not saying the org would draft because of Darko. But Darko easily could have given extra knowledge on the player .

Anyway like you said not happening

We don’t have much to offer

I think we can move up a couple spot but not by that much

[CazOnReal]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

"If they had stayed in the lottery and kept the top 6 pick, they had a guy that they really wanted."

Ok, this makes me think it's Sarr, which wouldn't surprise me given his similarly to Mobley and the well-reported interest Masai had in trading up to draft him.

I don't see that happening, at least not with a Top 10 pick. Sarr is seemingly a lock for the Top 3 so it would be somewhat more costly to do so - and only the Rockets seem to be interested in moving their pick (I know the Hawks have been rumored to want to trade down but I am skeptical of that claim as well as what it would cost).

[DreamTeam09]

Reason why we will still be bad next year. We can't fill all of those needs in one offseason.

3pt shooting could come from The MLE PG or Big that we go after.
#19 will solve one of the PG Depth or Big man Depth
Trent can be 3pt shooting/scoring from the bench wings.
A Brown trade will add a starter with some yrs attached, or a bench player (one that possibly shoot 3s)

I don't think you understand it right, we need one single player or two to fill all those needs (aka getting a star player), not having multiple role players where they can't get minutes.

For example, 3 point shooting main issue is Barnes and Poeltl, you can't get help when this is 20%+ of the minutes.

Brother I'm sure if you yourself went and looked at all the good 3pt shooting teams, I'm sure multiple of them will have a C that doesn't shoot 3s & and a player who shoots 34.1% from 3 like Barnes did last year.