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Jak still gets to the line a lot, shoots a great percentage from there, and grabs a lot of offensive rebounds. He has aggression and skill so is still a good prospect.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:Jak still gets to the line a lot, shoots a great percentage from there, and grabs a lot of offensive rebounds. He has aggression and skill so is still a good prospect.
Getting stuck at a standstill is a big issue. He doesn't have any shiftiness or craft to his offense. There's a clear lack of creational ability and he relies heavily on spacing. Then he's also not as athletic or sturdy. I'd pass on him and take Fears. I don't see the potential with Jakucionis.
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RoteSchroder wrote:Psubs wrote:Jase with 6 assists and only 1 turnover. Looks like he could play PG/SG. Shooting his usual great %'s.
I can see Jase being drafted before Jak.
With Jak's drop off in performance, he's probably not even gonna stay in the lottery. For what reason would teams even pick him considering his selling point is his shot making.
He has good size but might just be a regular sized SG?
I can see them both going 10-15. He's got so many crafty moves and will just over 18 1/2 years old at the draft!
A/T = 2.25, Stl/To = 1
Jase's ceiling looks like a bouncier Jalen Brunson.

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Is is possible to trade down and another trade to get, Rasheer Fleming, Jase Richardson, Moustapha Thiam and Alex Condon?
I would sacrifice, Gradey and Ochai and 2nd pick Portland.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam
Maybe a trade for KD, Richards and #30 for Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and Ochai


I would sacrifice, Gradey and Ochai and 2nd pick Portland.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam
Maybe a trade for KD, Richards and #30 for Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and Ochai

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Someone give me a quick scouting report (i.e., strengths & weaknesses) for Jase Richardson.
I haven't been paying attention to him but his numbers look real good.
I haven't been paying attention to him but his numbers look real good.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Not if we’re selling low
I think if he gets to his extension year his value plummets because you'd have to sign him. Trade him now while he's on this contract and still has his lottery pick shine
Where’s the shine? A “shooter” shooting 41% from the field and 35% from 3. A negative offensive BPM, a negative defensive BPM, and obviously a negative overall BPM. Not to mention a negative VORP, and a pedestrian PER. In the age of analytics you’re not getting lottery pick value back. You might as well hold on and see what he turns into, and if he still struggles just sign him on a bargain bin second contract.
I'm with Raw on this one. We should deal him sooner rather than later, especially with Walter in the fold and Agbaji due for an extension. Sure we won't get a lotto pick back but maybe we can get a later first in this draft or 2026 while saving the money off his cap hit.
Not to mention if we do trade down this year, we could pick up some other wing depth late.

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Someone give me a quick scouting report (i.e., strengths & weaknesses) for Jase Richardson.
I haven't been paying attention to him but his numbers look real good.
Strengths: Good three level scorer, can create for himself, pretty reliable floater, solid bounce and pretty good defender
Weaknesses: A little on the small side, doesn't get to the free throw line a ton, doesn't have the flashiest handle, average passer, more of a smooth athlete than a power one, kind of a tweener
Been on the Richardson train for a bit. Really hoping we'll be able to grab him later in the draft but depending on workouts and combine plus the lack of PG talent, I could see him rise to the late lotto-mid first round.

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Psubs wrote:Is is possible to trade down and another trade to get, Rasheer Fleming, Jase Richardson, Moustapha Thiam and Alex Condon?![]()
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I would sacrifice, Gradey and Ochai and 2nd pick Portland.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam
Maybe a trade for KD, Richards and #30 for Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and Ochai
I'm saying man. If we drop out of the Top 5, I believe there's a lot of quality talent to be had later in the draft. I'm looking at guys like Fleming, Richardson, Thiero and Condon. If Thiero can shoot even 35% from 3 on low volume, he'd be a HUGE piece for us off the bench. Still, I'd be happy with just the other 3.
Brooklyn has 5 picks - 4 in the first, 1 in the second. Maybe something like #6 + #40 for #22, #23, #27 & #36?

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Been following Baba Miller for while now and he has finally come together as a player at FAU. I would be tempted to draft this 6'11 guy who does everything on the court. He looks NBA ready but need a look at him in the Combine and workouts to see how he looks against more NBA type guys.
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Rapsfan07 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
I think if he gets to his extension year his value plummets because you'd have to sign him. Trade him now while he's on this contract and still has his lottery pick shine
Where’s the shine? A “shooter” shooting 41% from the field and 35% from 3. A negative offensive BPM, a negative defensive BPM, and obviously a negative overall BPM. Not to mention a negative VORP, and a pedestrian PER. In the age of analytics you’re not getting lottery pick value back. You might as well hold on and see what he turns into, and if he still struggles just sign him on a bargain bin second contract.
I'm with Raw on this one. We should deal him sooner rather than later, especially with Walter in the fold and Agbaji due for an extension. Sure we won't get a lotto pick back but maybe we can get a later first in this draft or 2026 while saving the money off his cap hit.
Not to mention if we do trade down this year, we could pick up some other wing depth late.
You don’t sell young players on cheap contracts for pennies on the dollar. That’s just bad business. If he’s a part of a bigger deal, sure. But as the lead asset? Absolutely not.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:Jak still gets to the line a lot, shoots a great percentage from there, and grabs a lot of offensive rebounds. He has aggression and skill so is still a good prospect.
Disagree entirely also there has always been a strong emphasis on offensive rebounding by Underwood especially by guards. His ORB% might be slightly although not entirely boosted. Take two examples, Brad Underwood arrives at Illinois and Aaron Jordan's ORB% goes from 4.3 to 7.2. Alan Griffin transfers from Illinois to Syracuse and his ORB% crashes from 11.2 w/ Underwood to 6.2.
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Rapsfan07 wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Someone give me a quick scouting report (i.e., strengths & weaknesses) for Jase Richardson.
I haven't been paying attention to him but his numbers look real good.
Strengths: Good three level scorer, can create for himself, pretty reliable floater, solid bounce and pretty good defender
Weaknesses: A little on the small side, doesn't get to the free throw line a ton, doesn't have the flashiest handle, average passer, more of a smooth athlete than a power one, kind of a tweener
Been on the Richardson train for a bit. Really hoping we'll be able to grab him later in the draft but depending on workouts and combine plus the lack of PG talent, I could see him rise to the late lotto-mid first round.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zAWeAXf07uY
Looks athletic enough. He just looks like he moves balanced and enough bounce to get around.
After Flagg, Harper, Tre, Bailey and VJ, I think Jase should be the next guard drafted.
Better PG skills than Tre. Less atheletic than VJ but better handles and PG skills. Better shooter than Harper but smaller and less powerful.
https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/basketball/michigan-state-hoops-disrespected-going-into-2024-25-season-01ja7x5434pr
Michigan State was not projected to be a Top 25 team.
The have won 5 straight, vs Illinois, Purdue (#13), Michigan (#15), Maryland (#16) and Wisconsin (#11). They are now 1st in the Bg 10 (18 teams lol) and Nationally #8.
This is also why I like Condon on Florida (#3).

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Rapsfan07 wrote:Psubs wrote:Is is possible to trade down and another trade to get, Rasheer Fleming, Jase Richardson, Moustapha Thiam and Alex Condon?![]()
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I would sacrifice, Gradey and Ochai and 2nd pick Portland.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam
Maybe a trade for KD, Richards and #30 for Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and Ochai
I'm saying man. If we drop out of the Top 5, I believe there's a lot of quality talent to be had later in the draft. I'm looking at guys like Fleming, Richardson, Thiero and Condon. If Thiero can shoot even 35% from 3 on low volume, he'd be a HUGE piece for us off the bench. Still, I'd be happy with just the other 3.
Brooklyn has 5 picks - 4 in the first, 1 in the second. Maybe something like #6 + #40 for #22, #23, #27 & #36?
22, 23 & 27 for the 6 isn’t great value. You could probably trade down to the late lottery range, pick up another asset and still make that trade.
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wegotthabeet wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:Psubs wrote:Is is possible to trade down and another trade to get, Rasheer Fleming, Jase Richardson, Moustapha Thiam and Alex Condon?![]()
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I would sacrifice, Gradey and Ochai and 2nd pick Portland.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam
Maybe a trade for KD, Richards and #30 for Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and Ochai
I'm saying man. If we drop out of the Top 5, I believe there's a lot of quality talent to be had later in the draft. I'm looking at guys like Fleming, Richardson, Thiero and Condon. If Thiero can shoot even 35% from 3 on low volume, he'd be a HUGE piece for us off the bench. Still, I'd be happy with just the other 3.
Brooklyn has 5 picks - 4 in the first, 1 in the second. Maybe something like #6 + #40 for #22, #23, #27 & #36?
22, 23 & 27 for the 6 isn’t great value. You could probably trade down to the late lottery range, pick up another asset and still make that trade.
Ya, I'm thinking to trade with the Spurs first. Trade #7 and Ochai Agbaji for #9, #11 and Blake Wesley (filler). Spurs do this to draft Maluach.
Trade #11, Gradey Dick for #15 and #25 and Tristan DaSilva.
#9 Jase Richardson
#15 Rasheer Fleming
#25 Alex Condon
#40 Moustapha Thiam
Might have to flip flip Condon and Thiam.
PG IQ - Shead - Jase
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Jase
SF Barrett - Mogbo - Battle
PF Barnes - DaSilva - Fleming
C Poeltl - Fleming - Condon
905 - Chomche, Thiam

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We are not trading down from 6th(if we end up there) for multiple picks for depth...lol.
We have depth now: Shead, Walter, Dick, Mogbo, Battle, Ochai.
You draft the guy at 6 you believe is better than all these guys and hopefully a starter...maybe more.
We have depth now: Shead, Walter, Dick, Mogbo, Battle, Ochai.
You draft the guy at 6 you believe is better than all these guys and hopefully a starter...maybe more.
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Tripod wrote:We are not trading down from 6th(if we end up there) for multiple picks for depth...lol.
We have depth now: Shead, Walter, Dick, Mogbo, Battle, Ochai.
You draft the guy at 6 you believe is better than all these guys and hopefully a starter...maybe more.
I agree with you. I always think draft the highest quality guy, but I do think we have overlap in Walter, Dick and Ochai.
I just wonder if the draft is deep in starters. After guys like Cooper, Ace, VJ and Dylan I am not thinking anyone is auto draft. Judging from the debate no here is sure either.
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