2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[Spates]

Cissoko will definitely be in the mix at 13 and it's his playmaking that separates him vs these other guards/wings

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/sleeper-deep-dives-sidy-cissoko

good break down on his whole game

i personally love the upside and think he can do a multitude of things on the nba level in our system

Cissoko has been very efficient inside the arc while showing clear shooting growth from three-point range. He’s also been rock-solid defensively, averaging 1.2 steals and nearly a block per game while switching across multiple positions on the perimeter and providing stout defense and shot-blocking in the paint.

his passing is what elevates his game to another level. His versatile game gives him a pretty solid floor, but his incredible passing is what makes him special. Cissoko is one of the best live-dribble passers in this class, and at 6’8” he can hit basically every passing window that you could imagine. He can improvise on the fly, often literally improvising in the air on his plentiful jump passes, with the best of them.

He's like a Deng/Diaw mix. If he plays for the 905 next year, I can see him vying for the GLeague MVP.

Why would someone want to draft GG Jackson over Cissoko? GG seems like an entitled chucker, and his team plays better when he's sitting. If teams like Hardy drop to the 2nd round, Jackson should be a 2nd rounder for sure. A team like Charlotte could gamble with Jackson at #34. Really they should get Trayce Jackson-Davis at #34 and gamble at 39 or 41 with Jackson. I would take Clowney before Jackson.

Really I thought the Raptors had a chance at being a top 4 seed in the East in the fall, so I thought the Raptors would be drafting the early 20's and Cissoko was one of the players that I was looking at just based on his international play for France. I guess he didn't start out great this season for had a fine 2nd half and should be looked at in the late teens and early 20's. If Cason and Hendricks are gone by 13, I don't mind reaching for Cissoko there like a riser like Jalen Williams. Outiside of the top 3, I don't see any other player with that much more potential than Cissoko. Sidy feels like a Franz Wagner sort of prospect.

Big agree from me. Watching Sidy has made me think of Wagner and Sochan

[Son Goku 25]

We desperately need guys who understand basketball at a high level and not just long at this point. Guys who can read the game and make the right pass, know when they shoot etc those are only Barnes and Yak on our team tbh I won't even consider Siakam and Fvv that.

Need explosive players in the perimeter who can attack and are quick, reliable shooters and aren't trash on defense.

If we can improve the collective bball IQ of this team and get better guards and passers, reliable shooters then we'd be back in the playoffs in no time.

[ItsDanger]

Watching some of Cissoko, he's got a PF game. Decent handle for his size (can he go left in half court?), can bring the ball up the court, might be a decent 3 pt shooter, I don't see half court creation at all, he's going to get called for fouls playing defense like that, will need a big adjustment. I see him more as a 3&D guy but I didn't see any full games. You got to discount G league games, the defense and effort level is very inconsistent.

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[PhilBlackson]

Has someone found a comparison of guys with George's numbers who turned out good? He has a lot of confidence but played terribly. If he had like Dennis Smith Jr hops or something I'd swing for him but he's just average athletically. We have to really beleive the shot is elite or we're just getting a streaky chucker like Clarkson

A really poor man's Kyrie Irving?

While I don't like calling him "really poorman's" anything but I do think he would have to be used like Kyrie or even Jamal Murray.

Where Scottie takes on a role like Jokic (which I think is more align with Barnes potential as a jumbo facilitator that can score, obv SB isn't at Jokic's level) or how LBJ played off of Kyrie but just how I believe it could work with KG. But either way for me both Fred & Gary should be S&T so that Keyonte is the lead wing scoring option while Scottie facilitates things and hopefully those 2 could be traded for 3+D players to fill in the gaps. I think Keyonte is far ahead of Clarkson at the same age in his ability to create AND shows much better signs as a passer and defender.

Personally I'd LOVE to draft him but I'll be shocked if management does because we never seem to go for players that are offensive minded first (despite being a fairly solid defender) but with his confidence/swagger, I'm almost certain he's going to be a really good player. Obv may not reach the level of Kyrie but I could see him reaching Simons or Garland's (both of whom he's taller than) level as a scorer that if he does defend at a decent level is a GREAT pickup at 13 and really if there was any type of scoring prospect that falls (a la Booker, Mitchell, Klay etc) into that 11-15 range, George looks the closest thing like it imo. Pending anyone falling, right now it's between George & Cissiko for me.

[ATLTimekeeper]

This is pretty significant:

The second major change that will be instituted in the new CBA involves doing away with automatic eligibility for high school or collegiate players that sign professional contracts with entities such as G League Ignite, Overtime Elite (OTE) or the Australian NBL.

Means that guys like Rupert, Dieng, Cissoko, Miller can elect not to enter the draft.

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[OakleyDokely]

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Players who are physically unable to participate, due to playing with a FIBA club still in-season, family tragedy, the birth of a child, or due to injury, as determined by the medical director of the combine, will be required to complete components at a later date. Failure to do so will result in being ineligible to be selected on draft night.

The big things are the health reports and the official measurements. Lot of guys would just not give this info to teams they didn't want to go to.

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big win for the NBA

its about time

this was an NBA event and agents made a mockery of it for years

The more transparency for teams the better

[niQ]

Cissoko will definitely be in the mix at 13 and it's his playmaking that separates him vs these other guards/wings

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/sleeper-deep-dives-sidy-cissoko

good break down on his whole game

i personally love the upside and think he can do a multitude of things on the nba level in our system

Cissoko has been very efficient inside the arc while showing clear shooting growth from three-point range. He’s also been rock-solid defensively, averaging 1.2 steals and nearly a block per game while switching across multiple positions on the perimeter and providing stout defense and shot-blocking in the paint.

his passing is what elevates his game to another level. His versatile game gives him a pretty solid floor, but his incredible passing is what makes him special. Cissoko is one of the best live-dribble passers in this class, and at 6’8” he can hit basically every passing window that you could imagine. He can improvise on the fly, often literally improvising in the air on his plentiful jump passes, with the best of them.

He's like a Deng/Diaw mix. If he plays for the 905 next year, I can see him vying for the GLeague MVP.

Why would someone want to draft GG Jackson over Cissoko? GG seems like an entitled chucker, and his team plays better when he's sitting. If teams like Hardy drop to the 2nd round, Jackson should be a 2nd rounder for sure. A team like Charlotte could gamble with Jackson at #34. Really they should get Trayce Jackson-Davis at #34 and gamble at 39 or 41 with Jackson. I would take Clowney before Jackson.

Really I thought the Raptors had a chance at being a top 4 seed in the East in the fall, so I thought the Raptors would be drafting the early 20's and Cissoko was one of the players that I was looking at just based on his international play for France. I guess he didn't start out great this season for had a fine 2nd half and should be looked at in the late teens and early 20's. If Cason and Hendricks are gone by 13, I don't mind reaching for Cissoko there like a riser like Jalen Williams. Outiside of the top 3, I don't see any other player with that much more potential than Cissoko. Sidy feels like a Franz Wagner sort of prospect.

Love that Sidy might be in the mix. He was one of the first prospects I saw from Bruin's post in the original 2023 draft thread: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2215015#p100645507

[ItsDanger]

Bilal Coulibaly is the darkhorse in this draft (ranked low 30s?). Cissoko is definitely a solid pro prospect, no doubt. But Coulibaly flashes half court skills like mid range and different finishes around the rim in layups. Those are the signs of a 3 level scorer, better handles, looks like he can be a plus defender maybe.

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All that is covered in the article.

So OG Anunoby couldn't have been picked by us as he couldn't have entered the draft?

[Dalek]

Bilal Coulibaly is the darkhorse in this draft (ranked low 30s?). Cissoko is definitely a solid pro prospect, no doubt. But Coulibaly flashes half court skills like mid range and different finishes around the rim in layups. Those are the signs of a 3 level scorer, better handles, looks like he can be a plus defender maybe.

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I like the kid but he will need a couple years to be ready. Still, towards the end of this video he is showing his defensive upside. I think he is going to be a solid 3 and D guy once he gets enough reps. HIs shot has come around from outside. Biggest thing for me is he looks so fluid as a mover.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Masai and Coulibaly's agent go way back. He might not stay in the draft, though.

[ATLTimekeeper]

if they show up and don't do anything?
What happens if they are injured?

All that is covered in the article.

So OG Anunoby couldn't have been picked by us as he couldn't have entered the draft?

I'm not following. OG attended the combine.

[ArthurVandelay]

If the goal is to select the best player right now, Coulibably isn't the pick in the range the Raptors are picking.

But if the goal is to select who will be the best player 5 years down the road, Coulibably is my pick for the range the Raptors are picking.

[Yallbecrazy]

All that is covered in the article.

So OG Anunoby couldn't have been picked by us as he couldn't have entered the draft?

I'm not following. OG attended the combine.

Really? I just assumed he was only 4 months into the recovery from his ACL.

He got measured I think and maybe could have taken some stand still shots, but wouldn't have participated in any running or jumping drills.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Bilal is a much better prospect than Rupert or Cissoko. If he continues to get physically stronger and gain a feel for the game he has all the underlying tools to become a special player. He's still putting it together but since he can shoot the ball with that length and also displays very solid handles it's worth it. If we have multiple draft picks I can see Masai stashing him for a few years.