2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[OAKLEY_2]

When does the narrative start: uhhhh we missed out on Zac Edey cause of tha Poetl trade...

[OAKLEY_2]

I don't really like the wing prospects who are projected in the lottery this year e.g. Risacher, Salaun, Cody Williams (haven't watched enough of Holland yet). Most of them look limited in terms of skill set and ceiling, and seem to be getting overhyped based on measurements. The guard crop is much more intriguing to me, and the trendiness of wings may push some good players down the board.

The only thing dragging down Cody is his slender physique. Dude moves a lot like Paskal.

[OakleyDokely]

KP talked to execs at combine ... "our boards are no where near matching any of the mocks"

Lol

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Ya, people are going to be a little surprised when Mogbo goes like 12th, Dillion Jones goes 15th and Bub goes 38.

This is a draft where teams won't mind "reaching" on certain guys they like because of how flat and unpredictable it is.

[raptor jesus]

I don't really like the wing prospects who are projected in the lottery this year e.g. Risacher, Salaun, Cody Williams (haven't watched enough of Holland yet). Most of them look limited in terms of skill set and ceiling, and seem to be getting overhyped based on measurements. The guard crop is much more intriguing to me, and the trendiness of wings may push some good players down the board.

The only thing dragging down Cody is his slender physique. Dude moves a lot like Paskal.

From a pure skill perspective, he might be the most interesting to me, but in the games I watched him play he showed a very poor motor. He just floated around like he was trying to blend into the game instead of trying to make an impact. That's always a big concern for me.

[CazOnReal]

:cry: When does the narrative start: uhhhh we missed out on Zac Edey cause of tha Poetl trade...

Can't really start if Edey doesn't translate to the NBA - which he won't.

[grant101]

I don't really like the wing prospects who are projected in the lottery this year e.g. Risacher, Salaun, Cody Williams (haven't watched enough of Holland yet). Most of them look limited in terms of skill set and ceiling, and seem to be getting overhyped based on measurements. The guard crop is much more intriguing to me, and the trendiness of wings may push some good players down the board.

The only thing dragging down Cody is his slender physique. Dude moves a lot like Paskal.

From a pure skill perspective, he might be the most interesting to me, but in the games I watched him play he showed a very poor motor. He just floated around like he was trying to blend into the game instead of trying to make an impact. That's always a big concern for me.

His team had several talented upperclassmen and he did defer a lot on offence. That said, I believe he was injured for a big stretch towards the end of the season, so perhaps that accounts for some of it.

[grant101]

:cry: When does the narrative start: uhhhh we missed out on Zac Edey cause of tha Poetl trade...

Can't really start if Edey doesn't translate to the NBA - which he won't.

You have more faith than I do. There are already folks on this board preparing their posts moaning about the Poeltl trade when any prospect picked between 8-19 breaks out. It was a bad, wrong-headed trade. spilt milk.

[Dalek]

Raps worked out Eric Gaines so they are deep into the prospect list. I love athletes like him because in this draft the top of class doesn't have any quick twitch guys. Gaines is 6'2 but the way he hovers in the air he plays like 6'6. If Toronto is looking for a defensive playmaker and instant offense type Gaines has some good traits.

Watch on YouTube

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

KP talked to execs at combine ... "our boards are no where near matching any of the mocks"

Lol

Watch on YouTube

Ya, people are going to be a little surprised when Mogbo goes like 12th, Dillion Jones goes 15th and Bub goes 38.

This is a draft where teams won't mind "reaching" on certain guys they like because of how flat and unpredictable it is.

There are some signs that Carrington could surprise as he had 49/38/86 splits in HS. He's a good free throw shooter and had a very high 3PAr at Pitt so there's potential there. Then he clearly has advanced feel as a distributor for his age. When it comes to the defense what hurts him is his poor stock rates but I watched tape of him and he's actually a solid technical defender, he stays in front of his man and has decent closeout ability. There's a lot to like about Carrington but in order for him to overcome his lack of rim finishing and D efficiency he will either need to A: improve his stock rates a bit or B: become an absolute lights out scorer.

A is historically less likely but B is quite possible. I'm not sure if that will make him a 6th man or starter if he achieves it.

[raptor jesus]

The only thing dragging down Cody is his slender physique. Dude moves a lot like Paskal.

From a pure skill perspective, he might be the most interesting to me, but in the games I watched him play he showed a very poor motor. He just floated around like he was trying to blend into the game instead of trying to make an impact. That's always a big concern for me.

His team had several talented upperclassmen and he did defer a lot on offence. That said, I believe he was injured for a big stretch towards the end of the season, so perhaps that accounts for some of it.

That's reasonable, although I think it's risky to make excuses for a player's shortcomings, especially when it comes to effort. But admittedly, I need to watch more of him - perhaps those games I saw were outliers. He does remind me a bit of Khris Middleton, which is intriguing in this talent-starved draft.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Raps worked out Eric Gaines so they are deep into the prospect list. I love athletes like him because in this draft the top of class doesn't have any quick twitch guys. Gaines is 6'2 but the way he hovers in the air he plays like 6'6. If Toronto is looking for a defensive playmaker and instant offense type Gaines has some good traits.

Watch on YouTube

Other worldly athleticism from this guy. It’s almost like he has jet packs in his shoes!

He’d be a top 0.1% leaper his first day in the league. The only thing is he’s very lightweight. He’s also already 23, and his shooting has never come around.

He’d probably be a good option to bring fans into the 905 as a UDFA.

[Dalek]

Catching up on this thread (every time I look there's another 5 pages, and it's a pain in the ass to go between desktop and mobile, so I just... don't) and other videos, podcasts, articles, etc on the draft.

I still really like Edey. I still think it's more likely he goes top 10 than is available at 19. I also think it's more likely he's the best player in this draft than a bust (let's say that means 4th year team option declined).

Intrigued by Mogbo, though I would hope it's at 31. If he's a poor man's Scottie in some ways, it could give us 48 minutes of Scottie, including some interesting lineups when they overlap.

Other thoughts:
-Wouldn't be upset if Ware is not on the board at our pick. Makes me nervous. Let someone else make that decision.
-I think I like Carrington better than Collier
-Differentiating between all of the wings is tough, so I don't want to try
-I'm going to abuse The Ringer's skill feature function and only look at guys who've "Got that dog in him"
-Hearing Will Lou refer to Tyler Kolek as "6'3, white guard, Marquette" made me feel some type of way. I don't know if it was a Freudian slip or just, like, an accurate classification
-I'm getting to the point I get in every draft where I want about 8 picks, mostly second rounders
-Finding out I'm still a wingspan guy at heart

I find the Kolek white guard Marquette is bad form from Will, but it is an old trip of playing on "slow white guy". It can't be further from the truth.

He is a below the rim finisher but Marquette had one of the fastest offenses in college last year. They are the 0.5 vision and Kolek was the engine.

Also, he is a solid defender given his size. He can get switched onto bigs and he is strong enough to hold them in most cases. At any rate he has the dog in him to compete.

In his interview with Vecenie he mentions that he is doing predraft scrimmages with Edey which I would love to see. Those two would make the perfect combo.

[Dalek]

Raps worked out Eric Gaines so they are deep into the prospect list. I love athletes like him because in this draft the top of class doesn't have any quick twitch guys. Gaines is 6'2 but the way he hovers in the air he plays like 6'6. If Toronto is looking for a defensive playmaker and instant offense type Gaines has some good traits.

Watch on YouTube

Other worldly athleticism from this guy. It’s almost like he has jet packs in his shoes!

He’d be a top 0.1% leaper his first day in the league. The only thing is he’s very lightweight. He’s also already 23, and his shooting has never come around.

He’d probably be a good option to bring fans into the 905 as a UDFA.

Yup. I think he is a 905 special, but he has flashes of some offensive explosions and he ended his year shooting great.

These pandemic prospects are all a little too old, but he is a rare one. The video I found doesn't do him justice.

[Indeed]

Raps worked out Eric Gaines so they are deep into the prospect list. I love athletes like him because in this draft the top of class doesn't have any quick twitch guys. Gaines is 6'2 but the way he hovers in the air he plays like 6'6. If Toronto is looking for a defensive playmaker and instant offense type Gaines has some good traits.

Watch on YouTube

I like his speed, but he is not a playmaker. His shooting efficiency is below NBA prospects average, perhaps improving his playmaking ability would make his efficiency goes up.

He may become Schroder with a bit better shooting. If our head coach can make Schroder the 6th man, maybe he can become something similar. Hope we get him from undraft.

[OakleyDokely]

KP talked to execs at combine ... "our boards are no where near matching any of the mocks"

Lol

Watch on YouTube

Ya, people are going to be a little surprised when Mogbo goes like 12th, Dillion Jones goes 15th and Bub goes 38.

This is a draft where teams won't mind "reaching" on certain guys they like because of how flat and unpredictable it is.

There are some signs that Carrington could surprise as he had 49/38/86 splits in HS. He's a good free throw shooter and had a very high 3PAr at Pitt so there's potential there. Then he clearly has advanced feel as a distributor for his age. When it comes to the defense what hurts him is his poor stock rates but I watched tape of him and he's actually a solid technical defender, he stays in front of his man and has decent closeout ability. There's a lot to like about Carrington but in order for him to overcome his lack of rim finishing and D efficiency he will either need to A: improve his stock rates a bit or B: become an absolute lights out scorer.

A is historically less likely but B is quite possible. I'm not sure if that will make him a 6th man or starter if he achieves it.

I was just throwing some names around. I wouldn't be surprised if Carrington went close to the lottery either.

[OAKLEY_2]

:cry: When does the narrative start: uhhhh we missed out on Zac Edey cause of tha Poetl trade...

Can't really start if Edey doesn't translate to the NBA - which he won't.

You have more faith than I do. There are already folks on this board preparing their posts moaning about the Poeltl trade when any prospect picked between 8-19 breaks out. It was a bad, wrong-headed trade. spilt milk.

It morphs into the many ways to bemoan spilt milk and really let's stop the sportsfan self abuse. Poetl was a starter for Khem Birch and conditional first rounder in a draft of second rounders. This board wants to obsess finding fault with the front office the same way some want to obsess a Sam Hinke doctrine of the forever tank. Poetl is a good player. At least we know that much.

[WuTang_CMB]

Rebounding is maybe the easiest thing to project into the NBA as it usually carries over. I like Mogbo as he fits our mold of high motor jolty type players, which this team is now lacking after the trades. I understand Darko's system and focus of shooting/IQ around Scottie, but I still think you need 1-2 of these type of players in the rotation. Height and shooting def an issue though.

[DreamTeam09]

Apparently in that Terrance Shannon case, the female text their group chat "yup we finally got him $$" paraphrasing...

Geez that's pretty gross

[Kevin Willis]

Rebounding is maybe the easiest thing to project into the NBA as it usually carries over. I like Mogbo as he fits our mold of high motor jolty type players, which this team is now lacking after the trades. I understand Darko's system and focus of shooting/IQ around Scottie, but I still think you need 1-2 of these type of players in the rotation. Height and shooting def an issue though.

Unfortunately there's not a ton of Darko types in this draft so why not.

[OAKLEY_2]

KP talked to execs at combine ... "our boards are no where near matching any of the mocks"

Lol

Watch on YouTube

Ya, people are going to be a little surprised when Mogbo goes like 12th, Dillion Jones goes 15th and Bub goes 38.

This is a draft where teams won't mind "reaching" on certain guys they like because of how flat and unpredictable it is.

There are some signs that Carrington could surprise as he had 49/38/86 splits in HS. He's a good free throw shooter and had a very high 3PAr at Pitt so there's potential there. Then he clearly has advanced feel as a distributor for his age. When it comes to the defense what hurts him is his poor stock rates but I watched tape of him and he's actually a solid technical defender, he stays in front of his man and has decent closeout ability. There's a lot to like about Carrington but in order for him to overcome his lack of rim finishing and D efficiency he will either need to A: improve his stock rates a bit or B: become an absolute lights out scorer.

A is historically less likely but B is quite possible. I'm not sure if that will make him a 6th man or starter if he achieves it.

Bub seems like this year's Kobe Bufkin in terms of our fascinations. Ringer now saying Edey to the Lakers at 17. Raps take Collier and Tyson. If Raps got Collier and Tyson we'd all be saying that moving up was a ridiculous notion. I guess we can get a jump on that and talk 19n31. Again. I do think Collier is a great guard pick for upside and Tyson has some buzz but likely is a first round pick. I would take Walter (16th projected by the Ringer) or Collier but hey is all just another mock day.