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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1481 » by Indeed » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:28 pm

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If he was 2 years younger, he'd be mocked much higher. Currently late 1st? Probably will go 16-24 range. Unless we get another 1st, we're not getting him. He fits many team's needs immediately. 3 pt shot looks clean and quick, good size and mobility. What's not to like here?


Reminds me of OG but with a much smoother jumpshot

He's gonna be the guy this year that rises hard right before the draft and gets top 5 buzz


Ya, he looks like he has a strength/speed combination and gets quite a few deflections. Like at minimum, he's Thiero but can shoot 3's.

Maybe like how Tijuan Salaun was drafted #6? More likely rise like Bub Carrington to #14. If we start winning and end up outside of the top 6-7 I would be cool taking him around 8-10.

Just flip some players for late 1st picks for the project bigs.

Bothm Flemming (20.9) and Thiero (21.1) are just a few months apart, but they are a bit different on offense.

Flemming (more a 3&D with mostly assisted, usage will be limited as it relies on assist)

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DUNKS            At the rim                  Other 2-PT                  3-Pt Jumpers   
Tot    Pct.       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed
29-31   93.5%      74-107   69.2%   63.5%      2-7   28.6%   100.0%      35-84   41.7%   97.1%


Thiero (mid-range with mostly unassisted, not able to shoot spotup 3)

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DUNKS            At the rim                  Other 2-PT                  3-Pt Jumpers   
Tot    Pct.       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed
33-35   94.3%      66-92   71.7%   42.4%      33-62   53.2%   27.3%      6-29   20.7%   100.0%


Meanwhile, Queen is a year older than freshman (20.5), along with Penda and Mgbako.
CMD and Toppin are close to the freshman age (20, a month older than Edgecombe, while Flagg will be 18.5)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1482 » by Dalek » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:59 pm

I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1483 » by Yallbecrazy » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:08 pm

Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1484 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:16 pm

Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


He could space the floor with his gravity because the big is going to have to stay attached to him at all times, if not it's a drop off or a lob over the top.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1485 » by Dalek » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:30 pm

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Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.


That could work against him here because we like high IQ connective bigs. That said, if we are picking 6-10 range then we cannot expect immediate returns. It would be worth investing in him. He is still only 18! Three years from now he will still only be 21 which is scary potential to me if he stays healthy and is in our system.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1486 » by Indeed » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:14 pm

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Yallbecrazy wrote:
Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:



I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.


That could work against him here because we like high IQ connective bigs. That said, if we are picking 6-10 range then we cannot expect immediate returns. It would be worth investing in him. He is still only 18! Three years from now he will still only be 21 which is scary potential to me if he stays healthy and is in our system.


Sounds like a bigger longer Boucher. Still a good piece, just unsure that would justify being that high, particularly, we need a 1st option ultimately.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1487 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:59 pm

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Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


He could space the floor with his gravity because the big is going to have to stay attached to him at all times, if not it's a drop off or a lob over the top.


I think that Chomche has as much 3pt shooting potential as Maluach. I would rather use a late 1st/2nd pick on Ivisic's than use the early pick on Maluach.

Chomche would look good in high-post passing to cutters. :nod: He would be the rim-protector and lob threat that Poeltl is no longer.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1488 » by SFour » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:59 pm

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This is why I'm excited about Maluach. He's got even more upside than Williams because he has the ability to stretch the floor, something he hasn't been able to showcase at Duke because they have him pinned in the paint.



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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1489 » by Brinbe » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:05 pm

Maluach being underrated big time lol. Just watching a few Duke games will show you his two way impact. Great legit size as a rim protector and shot deterrent on the inside plus he isn't a stiff athletically. Of course it helps playing with a defender like Flagg and others they have but he holds his own too. On the other end he's pretty much a constant potential lob threat and I don't think that's an exaggeration. But regardless, he is already historically efficient as a scorer. The big thing is that he is a legit good FT shooter which is huge plus trait for a big and he has shown flashes as a prospect that there's range to his game. Maybe not as a primary weapon but he can potentially punish from there in spots in the future.

Have absolutely no problem taking him if we end up 6th or 7th.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1490 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:09 pm

Where is everyone going for good draft coverage that's not behind a paywall, now that KOC has left the Ringer?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1491 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:15 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:

From Matt Powers on X:
Khaman Maluach is now 21 for 22 (95%!) as a roll man to the basket. For comparison:

Dereck Lively, 20-22 (91%)
Zach Edey, 37-43 (86%)
Chet Holmgren, 10-12 (83%)
Jalen Duren, 16-20 (80%)
Yves Missi, 46-62 (74%)
Evan Mobley, 24-33 (73%)
Donovan Clingan, 32-44 (73%)
Kel'el Ware, 24-35 (69%)
Asa Newell, 7-14 (50%)
Thomas Sorber, 12-28 (43%)


I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.


I don't think his turnovers are all that high. Not denying anything you said here but he's still someone that is relatively new to the sport, and that sometimes physical dominance at the C position is just enough to be an impact player (Dwight Howard).
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1492 » by Dalek » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:29 pm

Brinbe wrote:Maluach being underrated big time lol. Just watching a few Duke games will show you his two way impact. Great legit size as a rim protector and shot deterrent on the inside plus he isn't a stiff athletically. Of course it helps playing with a defender like Flagg and others they have but he holds his own too. On the other end he's pretty much a constant potential lob threat and I don't think that's an exaggeration. But regardless, he is already historically efficient as a scorer. The big thing is that he is a legit good FT shooter which is huge plus trait for a big and he has shown flashes as a prospect that there's range to his game. Maybe not as a primary weapon but he can potentially punish from there in spots in the future.

Have absolutely no problem taking him if we end up 6th or 7th.


Maluach deters people from attacking the rim which is important for anchor the defense. I know Poeltl is skilled but he doesn't have the size and bulk to battle the guys like Embiid, Jokic, Zubac and even the guys like Wemby and Chet are only going to get bigger and stronger as they age. Maluach I can see having a Derek Lively type of instant impact as a defender and lob threat. He showed good touch while at BAL so I think the shooting will also come around. He is already a goof FT shooter as you mentioned.

I am just worried people are too in love lower ceiling guys like Kasparas and Demin who are more glue guys then a potential anchor big man.

My top picks currently are:

1.Cooper
2. Ace
3. Dylan
4. VJ
5. Khaman
6. CMB
7. Noa Essengue
8. Tre
9. Kasparas
10. Traore
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Post#1493 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:56 pm



A video from a couple weeks pointed out that he's the only D1 player that has 20 dunks and 20 threes. :nod:

I think he'd be the perfect forward pairing with Scottie, after Cooper Flagg of course.

His Stl/To = 1 . Asa Newell also = 1
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Post#1494 » by canada_dry » Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:01 pm

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A video from a couple weeks pointed out that he's the only D1 player that has 20 dunks and 20 threes. :nod:

I think he'd be the perfect forward pairing with Scottie, after Cooper Flagg of course.
Yeah i really like him.

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Post#1495 » by Yallbecrazy » Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:03 pm

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Yallbecrazy wrote:
Dalek wrote:I can see the trend of winning and figure we end up somewhere in the 7-10 range. I love CMB as a potential future all-star, but Khaman Maluach is a putting up scary FG% numbers. Like Edey and Lively were not as good:



I know we love this Chomche kid, but Maluach could be a dominant big.


Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.


I don't think his turnovers are all that high. Not denying anything you said here but he's still someone that is relatively new to the sport, and that sometimes physical dominance at the C position is just enough to be an impact player (Dwight Howard).


You're right, his turnovers aren't high. He just has a terrible assist to turnover ratio because his assists are less than half of Ace Bailey's.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1496 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:19 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Malauch is clearly very coordinated which is rare for someone so large. He has excellent touch around the rim and quick feet and also shoots free throws really well. He also gets lots of great looks at the rim because he's playing with Proctor, Flagg, and Kneuppel so that leads to lots of great passes and softer defense than he would face if he were on a middling SEC team instead.

Despite that great coordination that I love in bigs as well as an incredible frame I worry that his bbiq is just too low. Low steals, high turnovers, no assists is often an easy way to filter out bigs that will not make it in the NBA. There's always a chance he figures it out, but right now he's a long ways away.


I don't think his turnovers are all that high. Not denying anything you said here but he's still someone that is relatively new to the sport, and that sometimes physical dominance at the C position is just enough to be an impact player (Dwight Howard).


You're right, his turnovers aren't high. He just has a terrible assist to turnover ratio because his assists are less than half of Ace Bailey's.


When I watch him play, I understand why. He gets the ball and throws it down. Why would he ever pass? :lol:

Anyway, this is the kind of stuff that I'm interested in:

Those around the academy have been struck by how easily Maluach seems to pick up new skills. To call him “a sponge,” Traore says, undersells it. What Maluach has is “a gift,” an extremely rare ability to see something, replicate it and excel at it very quickly. “You take this kid and you put him next to Embiid—just put him there for a week. Every single thing that Embiid is doing, he will perfect it in a shorter period of time,” says Traore. “He watches and he listens to the coaches. Very smart kid.”


It just happens that a lot of this draft is exceptionally young, like it was pointed out on the draft board that Flagg will be LeBron's age when he entered the NBA. Khaman is just 3 months older and obviously is newer to the sport. Ace has been playing basketball since he was 3, so his poor assist rate is more notable than Maluach's, but even still, he's essentially another one of these high school age players that we used to acknowledge would play like 10-20 minutes their first few years in the NBA.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1497 » by Mark_83 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:39 pm

Jojo Tuggler could be this year's Mogbo. 6'8 PF with a 7'6 wingspan! I'd draft him just for the jokes with GD. :lol:

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Post#1498 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:42 pm

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Psubs wrote:

A video from a couple weeks pointed out that he's the only D1 player that has 20 dunks and 20 threes. :nod:

I think he'd be the perfect forward pairing with Scottie, after Cooper Flagg of course.
Yeah i really like him.

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Can he be Kawhi 2.0? Kawhi was drafted #15 as a sophomore.
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Post#1499 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:47 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Jojo Tuggler could be this year's Mogbo. 6'8 PF with a 7'6 wingspan! I'd draft him just for the jokes with GD. :lol:

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Mogbo looks like a better FT shooter and Tuggler has 5.8 fouls per 36. He needs to go back for his junior year.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1500 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:06 am

Psubs wrote:
canada_dry wrote:
Psubs wrote:

A video from a couple weeks pointed out that he's the only D1 player that has 20 dunks and 20 threes. :nod:

I think he'd be the perfect forward pairing with Scottie, after Cooper Flagg of course.
Yeah i really like him.

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Can he be Kawhi 2.0? Kawhi was drafted #15 as a sophomore.

Don’t do that to me, I don’t need that comparison swimming around in my brain matter.
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