Raptors Draft Bruno Caboclo (DX Scouting Video on Pg. 1)

[Bankai]

Yea Bruno is pretty baby faced. Let's call him Babyface, it's his new nick.

[TheDunc]

I like the approach Masai is taking. Get him here as soon as possible and have him working with the best of the best. He can make a lot of progress in the next few years as opposed to being stashed away. He needs to get the full NBA treatment. With the right training he could beef up 15-20 pounds in the next 6 months.

[akakalakin]

2+2 years is optimistic

[superchimp]

my problem is that this goes against Masai's entire philosophy. What happened to wait and see? What happened to patience? he panicked and picked him early cause he was afraid of losing him.

HE WANTED TO TANK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. YET HE WAITED CAUSE OF THIS STUPID PHILOSOPHY. NOW WE ARE STUCK WITH A FIRST ROUND LOSS, LOSING LOWRY FOR NOTHING, AND A TERRIBLE CORE.

WE COULD'VE HAD **** WIGGINS. IF WE TANKED PROPERLY WE COULD'VE HAD A TOP 5 PICK AT LEAST AND WOULD'VE BEEN IN A BETTER SPOT THAN WE ARE IN.

i agree wait and see is A STUPID PHILOSOPHY, PICK YOUR DIRECTION AND TAKE, OR ELSE EVERYONE IS GONNA PASS BY YOU. HOWEVER THIS JUST SHOWS ME MASAI IS AN IDIOT.

All I saw was like...

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i guess thats an easy way out for masai fanboys to defend him, dont even have to think of a creative way to insult me for bashing your god masai

Masai isn't my God or anything but I bet he uses proper sentence case, which goes a long way with me.

I should have followed my instincts honed from a career in communications and ignored the post. I decided to read what you wrote and it's as much gibberish as it appeared to be. It's all opinion based on massive assumptions about what goes on in the head of a third party and what will happen in the future. I don't really have to come up with any sort of creative criticism of such an argument.

I'm not an instant gratification person. I'll give Masai a chance to do his job. He's been on the job about a year and at worst he has improved the team in the short term. Only time will determine his long term success or failure. The success of a particular draft may no be known for years. Masai has had success in life doing things the way he does. He's certainly worked his way up on his own skills and merits. I'd give him more benefit of the doubt than... someone who writes in all caps.

You may be right but to be so sure of it at this point is not rational.

[CoachJReturns]

Imagine if he keeps growing

I thought this too. Another inch or two taller would be insane. Especially if he develops enough ball handling skill to stay at small forward. And if he adds a post game, no small forward could ever block his shot! Hell, almost no player will e able to block him already.

[raptorstime]

our Giannis,

im actually hyped for this guy now

[CunningLinguist]

I was pissed yesterday but today I'm pretty happy. I admit it caught me off guard but I like the kid. He's a gym rat and that alone sold me on him. I'm still pissed about the Daniels pick because I think Grant, Glen Robinson were much better options.

Anyways keep working Bruno

Bruno looks like he might be Grant with a jumphot, so Grant would have been a bit redundant.

[CoachJReturns]

I like the approach Masai is taking. Get him here as soon as possible and have him working with the best of the best. He can make a lot of progress in the next few years as opposed to being stashed away. He needs to get the full NBA treatment. With the right training he could beef up 15-20 pounds in the next 6 months.

Yep. Teenagers put on muscle mass rapdily. He could easily put on 10 pounds of muscle before the season even starts.

[Clutch Carter]

Really surprised at the hate the pick is getting. All I read on this board is that we should be swinging for the fences with picks and when Masai really takes a huge swing everybody loses their mind.

[dagger]

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[AWillFan20]

also of note… batum was drafted 25th when he was 19 turning 20... yet people are acting like drafting an 18 year old caboclo at 20 is some ridiculous reach… in reality, most of the hate comes from the fact that absolutely no one was discussing this guy pre-draft… when i saw the pick, i was shocked as well because again, i'd never heard his name before. but his skill set is definitely useful in the NBA game… it really all comes down to his mental makeup and work ethic.

I know, I mean if Masai knew he wanted him well ahead of the draft.. why didn't he go around praising him and tell him to go work out for every other team so Ford & Draftexpress can have better mocks? LOL

I do hope he turns out, but if they really knew they wanted him I say its BETTER we had no clue who he was and was off most teams radars... but apparently not off everyone's radar cause it seems he would have been gone before 37.

[Thespianoid]

Really surprised at the hate the pick is getting. All I read on this board is that we should be swinging for the fences with picks and when Masai really takes a huge swing everybody loses their mind.

What people really wanted was for Masai to swing for the fences on someone they knew, or someone who was known and hyped by the media as a "swing for the fences" type prospect.

The only reason why there's hate is because he was unknown by big media outlets, which equates to people believing that he in turn must be unknown/not rated highly by the teams. Turns out he wasn't really unknown by teams at all.

People are used to equating the unknown factor with not being good enough, because in this day and age of media and scouting and highlight tapes of middle schoolers, people assume that if someone was good enough they'd have to have some presence already. That's not really the case for a lot of places. Can't extrapolate the US-centric media circus of basketball to be the same everywhere in the world.

[dagger]

You put into our strength and conditioning program, introduce him to a good diet (although Brazilian grill is really scrumptious) and then a lot of good coaching. Also, he needs intensive English classes. Can't tell you where that will end up, but it's better than a draft and stash situation where the Raptors would have no control.

[raptor jesus]

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[dagger]

Really surprised at the hate the pick is getting. All I read on this board is that we should be swinging for the fences with picks and when Masai really takes a huge swing everybody loses their mind.

What people really wanted was for Masai to swing for the fences on someone they knew, or someone who was known and hyped by the media as a "swing for the fences" type prospect.

If everyone knows so and so is a swing for the fences guy, he's not. What you are describing is media or fan hype. I don;t know if Bruno will pan out, but I can guarantee you that if we hadn't hid him from workouts, with his agent talking him up to the Fords and Givonys of the world, he would have generated at least as much hype as Capela or Inglis. (BTW, Inglis is now sidelined for at least two months with a broken foot).

There are weaknesses in the scouting and mock draft process. Certainly parts of the world and certain events outside the US are heavily covered. Every general manager and every mock draft site runs to FIBA U19, or Nike Eurocamp, because they are full of draft able players. But how many were at FIBA Americas, where there were few draft able players and no US entry because the US has qualified for the World Cup? FIBA Americas was in Caracas, not exactly the garden spot of the universe these days. Bruno was on display there. He had some nice games. But I wonder if there was a single NBA general manager or draft site on hand, and whether any were even watching on the TV feed? Some of us were watching, and probably the regional scouts for various teams, but they only get limited input into the drafting process. There reports go up the line to the senior scouts and scouting director, and if that doesn't prompt a scouting trip by the general manager, the player isn't likely to be drafted in the first round.

[LLJ]

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Fran looks like he's about to take a huge dump

[superchimp]

Also, he needs intensive English classes.

Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the city, it shouldn't be hard for him in the city or to get him a good teacher.

[Thespianoid]

Really surprised at the hate the pick is getting. All I read on this board is that we should be swinging for the fences with picks and when Masai really takes a huge swing everybody loses their mind.

What people really wanted was for Masai to swing for the fences on someone they knew, or someone who was known and hyped by the media as a "swing for the fences" type prospect.

If everyone knows so and so is a swing for the fences guy, he's not. What you are describing is media or fan hype. I don;t know if Bruno will pan out, but I can guarantee you that if we hadn't hid him front workouts, with his agent talking him up to the Fords and Givonys of the world, he would have generated at least as much hype as Capela or Inglis. (BTW, Inglis is now sidelined for at least two months with a broken foot).

Exactly. I think many here on RealGM wanted the name recognition and media reputation as a high-risk, high-reward prospect. They're not willing to understand that sometimes, a true high-risk, high-reward prospect may be kept under wraps to avoid that very hype, and that "no youtube videos" is not always an indication of "not good enough".

[dagger]

Also, he needs intensive English classes.

Portuguese is one of the most spoken languages in the city, it shouldn't be hard for him in the city or to get him a good teacher.

Oh sure, it's not going to be a problem, they just have to do it because his English is limited

[Thespianoid]

There are weaknesses in the scouting and mock draft process. Certainly parts of the world and certain events outside the US are heavily covered. Every general manager and every mock draft site runs to FIBA U19, or Nike Eurocamp, because they are full of draft able players. But how many were at FIBA Americas, where there were few draft able players and no US entry because the US has qualified for the World Cup? FIBA Americas was in Caracas, not exactly the garden spot of the universe these days. Bruno was on display there. He had some nice games. But I wonder if there was a single NBA general manager or draft site on hand, and whether any were even watching on the TV feed? Some of us were watching, and probably the regional scouts for various teams, but they only get limited input into the drafting process. There reports go up the line to the senior scouts and scouting director, and if that doesn't prompt a scouting trip by the general manager, the player isn't likely to be drafted in the first round.

Terrific insight into the scouting process. Thanks, dagger!

Are you sure you don't work for the Raptors/do this for a living...