2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[fbalmeida]

According to Bobby Marks, for the 2022 free agency, (Harden, Beal, Kyrie, LaVine) only 3 teams have significant cap space: Pistons, Magic, and Spurs.

This might put a premium on expiring contracts. Dragic and Boucher = 26.5 million in space.

[HumbleRen]

Looks like Poeltl's price has gone up and the Raptors are now looking at Daniel Theis.

[tecumseh18]

Looks like Poeltl's price has gone up and the Raptors are now looking at Daniel Theis.

Not really surprising, and I'd be OK with Theis. He's obviously playable in the playoffs, can make an outside shot, and was starting for the Cs when they swept the Sixers with Embiid a few years back.

But there's still a lot of posturing going on. Always remember that in 2017, the Suns had made a clear demand for a FRP for PJ Tucker. The GM specifically said they were happy to keep his Bird rights unless they got their FRP.

They ended up getting two late seconds - 2017 #54 (Alec Peters), and 2018 #59 (George King).

[Lord_Zedd]

Is there even a difference between Birch and Theis? Both are also spending quite a bit of time on the injury list.

[fbalmeida]

«They've indeed called San Antonio regarding Jakob Poeltl»

«The Raptors have also been mentioned as a possible Daniel Theis destination.»

I'd pass on both Poeltl and Theis.

They don't really add anything beyond what we've got from Birch and Precious, for less combined salary

If we're looking for a big man, Sabonis would be a fascinating get, but Siakam wouldn't really serve the Pacers' needs and trading away Trent for a C who isn't lights out from 3pt, would probably unbalance our roster. We'd have terrible spacing and no shooting guards.

Somewhere along the line, we've got to eventually balance our roster. Super curious as to when and how it happens.

[dukes_wild]

We need guard help a lot more than center help. Our only guard that can somewhat consistently attack the basket off the dribble is a 5'11 point guard.

I also don't see any game changing bigs available that wouldn't cost much more than they are worth. Getting a cheap big like Theis would be nice for depth purposes, but it would move the needle FAR less than adding a bench guard like Evan Fournier (not actually Evan Fournier, his contract is terrible) who can shoot 3s, score off isolation, make a few plays a game off the dribble.

We're gonna have to run a ton of small ball anyways if we want to give Barnes, OG and Siakam all the minutes they deserve. Add a bench scorer or two so we can actually score more than 10-15 bench points a game

[Raptorfan2012]

Isn't Thesis like 6'8? We need someone bigger. Plus we could have signed him last summer if we really wanted him. I don't buy it.

[SurgeIblocka]

Honestly what this team really needs is some veteran leadership, we had that in Lowry, Suns became better with getting that in CP3. Fred has done an admirable job but hes not really the veteran this team needs. Someone like VC who can be a team player and just help the team in those pressure situations and mentoring the young players on the court. Not sure who we can get to fit that mold, preferably I would want someone who's gone to a finals or won a chip in the past. Just wondering if you guys have any ideas on who we can get.

I think someone like Kevin Love would help this team a lot.

If we had a bench of veterans they could just be even average players, it would have helped this team.

[dukes_wild]

Honestly what this team really needs is some veteran leadership, we had that in Lowry, Suns became better with getting that in CP3. Fred has done an admirable job but hes not really the veteran this team needs. Someone like VC who can be a team player and just help the team in those pressure situations and mentoring the young players on the court. Not sure who we can get to fit that mold, preferably I would want someone who's gone to a finals or won a chip in the past. Just wondering if you guys have any ideas on who we can get.

I think someone like Kevin Love would help this team a lot.

If we had a bench of veterans they could just be even average players, it would have helped this team.

I think just the on-court production difference of going from Rubio to CP3 at the PG spot is why they became a lot better, not just his leadership

Also Kevin Love is a weird guy to bring up when talking about veteran leadership given the fact he's basically thrown in the towel in Cleveland since LeBron left until this year when they became good.

We need talent more than leadership right now. We have way too many holes in our roster. Lack of top end talent, no starting caliber 5s, lack of good bench players specifically in the 2/3 positions.

[HumbleRen]

Honestly what this team really needs is some veteran leadership, we had that in Lowry, Suns became better with getting that in CP3. Fred has done an admirable job but hes not really the veteran this team needs. Someone like VC who can be a team player and just help the team in those pressure situations and mentoring the young players on the court. Not sure who we can get to fit that mold, preferably I would want someone who's gone to a finals or won a chip in the past. Just wondering if you guys have any ideas on who we can get.

I think someone like Kevin Love would help this team a lot.

If we had a bench of veterans they could just be even average players, it would have helped this team.

I think just the on-court production difference of going from Rubio to CP3 at the PG spot is why they became a lot better, not just his leadership

Also Kevin Love is a weird guy to bring up when talking about veteran leadership given the fact he's basically thrown in the towel in Cleveland since LeBron left until this year when they became good.

We need talent more than leadership right now. We have way too many holes in our roster. Lack of top end talent, no starting caliber 5s, lack of good bench players specifically in the 2/3 positions.

Our main issue is we have no hoopers on the team lol. Everything is a struggle.

[dukes_wild]

Honestly what this team really needs is some veteran leadership, we had that in Lowry, Suns became better with getting that in CP3. Fred has done an admirable job but hes not really the veteran this team needs. Someone like VC who can be a team player and just help the team in those pressure situations and mentoring the young players on the court. Not sure who we can get to fit that mold, preferably I would want someone who's gone to a finals or won a chip in the past. Just wondering if you guys have any ideas on who we can get.

I think someone like Kevin Love would help this team a lot.

If we had a bench of veterans they could just be even average players, it would have helped this team.

I think just the on-court production difference of going from Rubio to CP3 at the PG spot is why they became a lot better, not just his leadership

Also Kevin Love is a weird guy to bring up when talking about veteran leadership given the fact he's basically thrown in the towel in Cleveland since LeBron left until this year when they became good.

We need talent more than leadership right now. We have way too many holes in our roster. Lack of top end talent, no starting caliber 5s, lack of good bench players specifically in the 2/3 positions.

Our main issue is we have no hoopers on the team lol. Everything is a struggle.

Exactly. Our roster is mostly just a collection of athletic and physical specimens but without natural ball skills and shooting ability. A great thing to have around hoopers who can put the ball in the basket, we just don't have any of that lol

[C-R-E-A-M-]

if you go full rebuild you can sell high on siakam right now.

Siakam for Haliburton,Hield and a pick

[dukes_wild]

if you go full rebuild you can sell high on siakam right now.

Siakam for Haliburton,Hield and a pick

Not a chance in hell the Kings trade Haliburton AND a pick for Siakam

[Ell Curry]

Haliburton, Bagley and Thompson alone would give us like 30M in cap room, though there's nobody to spend it on but tiny guards really. If there were more forwards/bigs out there it could make sense. Sign a Siakam replacement and have Haliburton.

[NotMyKawhi]

if you go full rebuild you can sell high on siakam right now.

Siakam for Haliburton,Hield and a pick

Not a chance in hell the Kings trade Haliburton AND a pick for Siakam

you guys view Hali too high

Buddy is a bad contract filler. I feel Pascal has more value than just Hali, we should get a pic

[dukes_wild]

if you go full rebuild you can sell high on siakam right now.

Siakam for Haliburton,Hield and a pick

Not a chance in hell the Kings trade Haliburton AND a pick for Siakam

you guys view Hali too high

Buddy is a bad contract filler. I feel Pascal has more value than just Hali, we should get a pic

Haliburton is 21, already one of the top tier two way guards in the NBA, can play point and shooting guard, has been a career 58% TS scorer with 3PT% over 40% both seasons on fairly high volume, and he's on a rookie scale contract

He is absolutely more valuable as an asset than Siakam right now. You can argue Siakam is still a better player, but no chance he's a better asset

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Not a chance in hell the Kings trade Haliburton AND a pick for Siakam

you guys view Hali too high

Buddy is a bad contract filler. I feel Pascal has more value than just Hali, we should get a pic

Haliburton is 21, already one of the top tier two way guards in the NBA, can play point and shooting guard, has been a career 58% TS scorer with 3PT% over 40% both seasons on fairly high volume, and he's on a rookie scale contract

He is absolutely more valuable as an asset than Siakam right now. You can argue Siakam is still a better player, but no chance he's a better asset

depends on the team. a contending team would argue Siakam is more valuable and a better player. a team that is going for the lottery would think Haliburton is a better asset.

[NotMyKawhi]

you guys view Hali too high

Buddy is a bad contract filler. I feel Pascal has more value than just Hali, we should get a pic

Haliburton is 21, already one of the top tier two way guards in the NBA, can play point and shooting guard, has been a career 58% TS scorer with 3PT% over 40% both seasons on fairly high volume, and he's on a rookie scale contract

He is absolutely more valuable as an asset than Siakam right now. You can argue Siakam is still a better player, but no chance he's a better asset

depends on the team. a contending team would argue Siakam is more valuable and a better player. a team that is going for the lottery would think Haliburton is a better asset.

But still, Hali is overrated here. I feel more ppl are focused on the 2 way label he's had even before he was drafted than what he's actually done.

He's had some games but more times than not his stat line is meh.

[dukes_wild]

Haliburton is 21, already one of the top tier two way guards in the NBA, can play point and shooting guard, has been a career 58% TS scorer with 3PT% over 40% both seasons on fairly high volume, and he's on a rookie scale contract

He is absolutely more valuable as an asset than Siakam right now. You can argue Siakam is still a better player, but no chance he's a better asset

depends on the team. a contending team would argue Siakam is more valuable and a better player. a team that is going for the lottery would think Haliburton is a better asset.

But still, Hali is overrated here. I feel more ppl are focused on the 2 way label he's had even before he was drafted than what he's actually done.

He's had some games but more times than not his stat line is meh.

Hali's impact goes far beyond his stats though. Also since his slow start, since December 1st he's averaging 15/8.5/4 on 48/43/85 splits with only 2.5 turnovers a game. He's been running the offense a ton with Fox missing several games recently.

[NotMyKawhi]

depends on the team. a contending team would argue Siakam is more valuable and a better player. a team that is going for the lottery would think Haliburton is a better asset.

But still, Hali is overrated here. I feel more ppl are focused on the 2 way label he's had even before he was drafted than what he's actually done.

He's had some games but more times than not his stat line is meh.

Hali's impact goes far beyond his stats though. Also since his slow start, since December 1st he's averaging 15/8.5/4 on 48/43/85 splits with only 2.5 turnovers a game. He's been running the offense a ton with Fox missing several games recently.

oh he's one of those guys who you don't see it in the stats or the wins...

I'll pass. Those guys are always overrated and no one will ever judge them fairly bc regardless of the stats they put up or how they play, you'll just say this every time