2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS

[Syd-TK3]

Hes the most talented player in the class and i think by the end of the year hes the number 1 pick....Flagg is good but Harper will be better.

I think as long as Flagg doesn't fall off a cliff and disappoint he'll probably still go #1 just cause he been hyped so much to be.
But harper potential atleast as a #1 option is definitely better

I’m not a huge Flagg fan cause his athleticism doesn’t really pop out to me (first step for face ups or strength for post ups) and he doesn’t fit the Sengun mold where he’s got some elite footwork and post moves. His 3 point shooting form looks a bit weird too, not horrible, but weird. I do like Flagg’s defense though.

Harper also has a funky shot with a low release point, I wonder if it would affect his shooting consistency. Based on the NBA law of siblings, Harper should be really good though.

Yea flagg is a interesting prospect to judge to me he looked better as a scorer and on the perimeter during usa practice/highschool then he has so far in college but it's still early and obviously his defense will always be great.

The law of siblings is definitely a fact lol

[Dalek]

We have history with Baylor players - including two current Raptors in Davion and JaKobe. VJ Edgecombe would arguably be the highest profile guy we have drafted from Baylor, but also one with some concerns with shooting.

Also, with Ja'Kobe and Dick as projectable two-men and RJ Barrett still around, would we even consider VJ?

To me he is a big ticket type of prospect. I know the shooting numbers are nothing special 11/5/3 on 40/24/65 but he has some advanced stats that pop:

8.2 BPM
4.8 DBPM
7.1 BLK%
5.1 STL%
18 AST%
27 FTR

Also, he has 10 dunks in 8 games. His physicality is a weapon. Even if his offensive game stagnates for the first couple years, I think you are at least drafting a Matisse Thybulle or Lu Dort on defense. VJ is a high effort high motor athlete. More importantly you are getting a lob threat and potentially an electric scorer in our context. He is a lead handler at times for Baylor and he knows how to get to the rim and finish. This game against Tennessee highlights his talent:

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Really depends on his progression this season but his shooting and size are very much not ideal.
Right now I doubt he's a top 6 pick. Watch him start falling down the draft sites. He's probably a top 10 pick based just on his uber athleticism and upside.

I'd rather be looking at Demin, Jakucionis, johnson, Bailey, Harper, Flagg as a Raptors top 6 grouping.

After that VJ definitely should be in the mix with guys like Newell Essengue Maluach and Queen. Traore probably stays in mix as well

It is the modern NBA so guys who can shoot and pass take precedence. I swear, if this was the 2000s an athlete like him would be a very high pick - like top three. Anthony Edwards is the same type of athlete. I have a feeling this kid will be special in the NBA.

[Dalek]

We have history with Baylor players - including two current Raptors in Davion and JaKobe. VJ Edgecombe would arguably be the highest profile guy we have drafted from Baylor, but also one with some concerns with shooting.

Also, with Ja'Kobe and Dick as projectable two-men and RJ Barrett still around, would we even consider VJ?

To me he is a big ticket type of prospect. I know the shooting numbers are nothing special 11/5/3 on 40/24/65 but he has some advanced stats that pop:

8.2 BPM
4.8 DBPM
7.1 BLK%
5.1 STL%
18 AST%
27 FTR

Also, he has 10 dunks in 8 games. His physicality is a weapon. Even if his offensive game stagnates for the first couple years, I think you are at least drafting a Matisse Thybulle or Lu Dort on defense. VJ is a high effort high motor athlete. More importantly you are getting a lob threat and potentially an electric scorer in our context. He is a lead handler at times for Baylor and he knows how to get to the rim and finish. This game against Tennessee highlights his talent:

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Doesn't really make much sense when we just drafted two SGs in consecutive years to add a 3rd one (technically 4th) and I say that as a poster that still likes VJ as a prospect in the right situation. I HIGHLY doubt we'll take him as it's just a diminishing return if you have bunch of prospects all at the same position and this isn't even factoring RJ (who is actually a SG) into the conversation as well.

I think they are FAR more likely to look at players like Demin, Maluach, Queen at positions of need with arguably equal or greater upside and if they were to go with another SG, it's far more likely to be Tre Johnson as they're clearly prioritizing shooting around Scottie which ofc VJ is not good at.

I see where you are coming from but we have to movement shooter types in Dick and Walters which makes me think Tre may not be a target. VJ is like a combo of RJ and Ochai and adds wing athleticism that is on a unique scale for the NBA. Toronto could always use rim pressure.

I do think those other prospects make more sense because of need and talent, but I feel like VJ is being overlooked. Those past summer people were raving about his game.

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[CoinTossRoss31]

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Wow what a game by him. If he keeps this up I can see him going top 10

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Wow what a game by him. If he keeps this up I can see him going top 10

He's easily top 10 already, maybe top 5.

Jak is still 18 UNTIL May 29.

If he keeps hitting step back 3's increasing his range and shooting 49/44/88, why can't he be bigger Steph Curry?

Oustide top 4, I'd like Jak, Tre or Sorber.

[Yallbecrazy]

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I would have Ian Jackson ahead of Ben Saraf at #17 and LaBaron Philon at #20.

CMB too low at #22.

JT Toppin at #48 too low.

I heavily respect Thomas Sorber at #16 in this mock. Still think this stud is going to rise higher. Man I really hope that Georgetown alum who posted in this thread is wrong about Sorber possibly being a 2 year college guy and going back next season (sorry Georgetown alum poster I'm sure you'd love to see him play there another year).

I hope not. I guess it would be like him thinking he's not ready yet like a Blake Griffin.

If he's a legit 6'10 without shoes, then I'd take him over Queen. Sober is almost a 60/33/80, A/T = 1.75, Stl/TO = 1 and a 12.5 BPM

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/thomas-sorbers-important-production

So, let’s get back to Thomas Sorber. He’s checking the BPM boxes (12.4 BPM, 7.7 OBPM, 4.7 DBPM). But again, it’s how he’s producing that makes him so interesting. He’s a playmaking big man! As it stands currently, Sorber has a 23.8 USG%, 19.8 AST%, and 1.75 ATO. That’s intriguing for a dude who doesn’t turn 19 until Christmas Day.

He's STILL 18. Is it possible he grows 1 more inch so he's 6'11 without shoes? That would be huge! He would be a more nimble Poeltl that can shoot FT's and 3's.

Bulls should consider him at #8. I would say that the Raptors should too.

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The smile and joy seems like a Scotti / Gradey feel.

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SOS isn't out yet and small sample size, but his #s thus far indicate he should be in #1 overall contention to be honest. A big that gets a lot of steals and a lot of assists and doesn't turn it over much translates really well to the NBA. Add in good rebounding and free throw shooting and that's someone teams will covet.

While outlier tall people can still grow in their late teens it is still rare for them to do so and shouldn't be counted on.

Edit: checked Georgetown's schedule and they have had several cupcakes in there along with 2-3 good teams. We'll see how the numbers hold up in conference play.

[aminiaturebuddha]

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He's definitely perfecting that stepback 3-pointer. I think that's going to be pretty important for him because right now I'm not sure he'll have much separation ability against good defenders in the NBA. But if teams have to play him tight on the perimeter because he's a threat to pull up and shoot, it'll make it much easier for him to get into the teeth of the defence and use his passing ability.

I think he's solidly a top 10 guy right now, and I'll be interested to see how the rest of his season goes.

[OakleyDokely]

We have history with Baylor players - including two current Raptors in Davion and JaKobe. VJ Edgecombe would arguably be the highest profile guy we have drafted from Baylor, but also one with some concerns with shooting.

Also, with Ja'Kobe and Dick as projectable two-men and RJ Barrett still around, would we even consider VJ?

To me he is a big ticket type of prospect. I know the shooting numbers are nothing special 11/5/3 on 40/24/65 but he has some advanced stats that pop:

8.2 BPM
4.8 DBPM
7.1 BLK%
5.1 STL%
18 AST%
27 FTR

Also, he has 10 dunks in 8 games. His physicality is a weapon. Even if his offensive game stagnates for the first couple years, I think you are at least drafting a Matisse Thybulle or Lu Dort on defense. VJ is a high effort high motor athlete. More importantly you are getting a lob threat and potentially an electric scorer in our context. He is a lead handler at times for Baylor and he knows how to get to the rim and finish. This game against Tennessee highlights his talent:

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I think it's hard to play him with Barnes unless he really improves his shot.

[PushDaRock]

Bailey with another 0 assist and 3 turnover game. That's 5 assists in 8 games while playing 33 mpg. He has a 28% USG rate with a 3.9% Assist rate. That's Chris Boucher level as a passer.

[AbC?]

Bailey with another 0 assist and 3 turnover game. That's 5 assists in 8 games while playing 33 mpg. He has a 28% USG rate with a 3.9% Assist rate. That's Chris Boucher level as a passer.

Generational tunnel vision.

[Jstock12]

Bailey with another 0 assist and 3 turnover game. That's 5 assists in 8 games while playing 33 mpg. He has a 28% USG rate with a 3.9% Assist rate. That's Chris Boucher level as a passer.

So he makes 1 assist for every 64 minutes that he's on the floor, while sporting a 52% TS.

[Ell Curry]

Watched the Michigan-Arkansas game:

Danny Wolf - Almost a triple double. Great passing, moved his feet okay on D. He'd be an interesting fit here if we could get him with the PDX pick in Wolf-Barnes-Mogbo frontcourts, as he can pass, shoot and rebound, or just with one of Mogbo or Barnes against smaller bench lineups. We kinda missed out on seeing him guarding an NBA wing since Thiero was sick (he played, but not well or that much) and he's presumably an NBA bench wing if his jumper can get up to low 30s passable.

Boogie Fland - First time seeing him. Impressive. Very good first step. Can shoot. Shook a decent PG defender in Tre Donaldson more often than anyone else has this season. Seemed like he could get off a stepback 3 when he wanted. Unselfish, made some nice kick outs for 3 and didn't pound the rock to kill possessions more than 2-3 times all night. The negative would be that he's quite skinny, so unless he can bulk up he's gonna look more like Darius Garland with a few extra inches of height than a solid Donovan Mitchell, so probably a defensive liability. Not one of those guards who looks like he could play football. For a Freshman PG, I thought he looked really smart, which is to say like a regular starting quality 2nd or 3rd year PG in terms of making offensive decisions. Michigan went into a zone to stop him and Wagner from driving (and because they were getting killed on the boards) and he was very relaxed with it and went from running the O to more off-ball work and kept things ticking.

Ivisic - Wasn't impressed. Shot absolutely looks legit and he's tall, but he was still outplayed by the other Arkansas big men in Aidoo and Brazile. That's not shameful, those are solid starting quality college bigs, but they're probably G-Leaguers/Europe guys. Stats imply he's normally a shotblocker, but didn't disrupt or block much tonight. Might have just been a bad game, but he looked more like the kind of shooting 5 that Notre Dame or some Big 10 teams have that just isn't strong or quick enough to survive as NBA centers.

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Watched the Michigan-Arkansas game:

Danny Wolf - Almost a triple double. Great passing, moved his feet okay on D. He'd be an interesting fit here if we could get him with the PDX pick in Wolf-Barnes-Mogbo frontcourts, as he can pass, shoot and rebound, or just with one of Mogbo or Barnes against smaller bench lineups. We kinda missed out on seeing him guarding an NBA wing since Thiero was sick (he played, but not well or that much) and he's presumably an NBA bench wing if his jumper can get up to low 30s passable.

Boogie Fland - First time seeing him. Impressive. Very good first step. Can shoot. Shook a decent PG defender in Tre Donaldson more often than anyone else has this season. Seemed like he could get off a stepback 3 when he wanted. Unselfish, made some nice kick outs for 3 and didn't pound the rock to kill possessions more than 2-3 times all night. The negative would be that he's quite skinny, so unless he can bulk up he's gonna look more like Darius Garland with a few extra inches of height than a solid Donovan Mitchell, so probably a defensive liability. Not one of those guards who looks like he could play football. For a Freshman PG, I thought he looked really smart, which is to say like a regular starting quality 2nd or 3rd year PG in terms of making offensive decisions. Michigan went into a zone to stop him and Wagner from driving (and because they were getting killed on the boards) and he was very relaxed with it and went from running the O to more off-ball work and kept things ticking.

Ivisic - Wasn't impressed. Shot absolutely looks legit and he's tall, but he was still outplayed by the other Arkansas big men in Aidoo and Brazile. That's not shameful, those are solid starting quality college bigs, but they're probably G-Leaguers/Europe guys. Stats imply he's normally a shotblocker, but didn't disrupt or block much tonight. Might have just been a bad game, but he looked more like the kind of shooting 5 that Notre Dame or some Big 10 teams have that just isn't strong or quick enough to survive as NBA centers.

Zvonimir was hurt and didn't play last game and was brought off the bench and only played 9 mins so seems not 100% yet.

A 7'2 player that can block shots and shoot the 3 at 50% would be welcome to play 20-24 mpg. Other Razorback bigs would just be dime a dozen in the NBA.

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I heavily respect Thomas Sorber at #16 in this mock. Still think this stud is going to rise higher. Man I really hope that Georgetown alum who posted in this thread is wrong about Sorber possibly being a 2 year college guy and going back next season (sorry Georgetown alum poster I'm sure you'd love to see him play there another year).

I hope not. I guess it would be like him thinking he's not ready yet like a Blake Griffin.

If he's a legit 6'10 without shoes, then I'd take him over Queen. Sober is almost a 60/33/80, A/T = 1.75, Stl/TO = 1 and a 12.5 BPM

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/thomas-sorbers-important-production

So, let’s get back to Thomas Sorber. He’s checking the BPM boxes (12.4 BPM, 7.7 OBPM, 4.7 DBPM). But again, it’s how he’s producing that makes him so interesting. He’s a playmaking big man! As it stands currently, Sorber has a 23.8 USG%, 19.8 AST%, and 1.75 ATO. That’s intriguing for a dude who doesn’t turn 19 until Christmas Day.

He's STILL 18. Is it possible he grows 1 more inch so he's 6'11 without shoes? That would be huge! He would be a more nimble Poeltl that can shoot FT's and 3's.

Bulls should consider him at #8. I would say that the Raptors should too.

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The smile and joy seems like a Scotti / Gradey feel.

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SOS isn't out yet and small sample size, but his #s thus far indicate he should be in #1 overall contention to be honest. A big that gets a lot of steals and a lot of assists and doesn't turn it over much translates really well to the NBA. Add in good rebounding and free throw shooting and that's someone teams will covet.

While outlier tall people can still grow in their late teens it is still rare for them to do so and shouldn't be counted on.

Edit: checked Georgetown's schedule and they have had several cupcakes in there along with 2-3 good teams. We'll see how the numbers hold up in conference play.

Some of his misses look terrible. Though he still manages to shoot at a higher %. It might just be like Scottie to take more time as no one is going to block his shot except for Wemby or .... Zvonimir.

[Yallbecrazy]

We have history with Baylor players - including two current Raptors in Davion and JaKobe. VJ Edgecombe would arguably be the highest profile guy we have drafted from Baylor, but also one with some concerns with shooting.

Also, with Ja'Kobe and Dick as projectable two-men and RJ Barrett still around, would we even consider VJ?

To me he is a big ticket type of prospect. I know the shooting numbers are nothing special 11/5/3 on 40/24/65 but he has some advanced stats that pop:

8.2 BPM
4.8 DBPM
7.1 BLK%
5.1 STL%
18 AST%
27 FTR

Also, he has 10 dunks in 8 games. His physicality is a weapon. Even if his offensive game stagnates for the first couple years, I think you are at least drafting a Matisse Thybulle or Lu Dort on defense. VJ is a high effort high motor athlete. More importantly you are getting a lob threat and potentially an electric scorer in our context. He is a lead handler at times for Baylor and he knows how to get to the rim and finish. This game against Tennessee highlights his talent:

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I keep seeing the Edgecombe game against Tennessee brought up so I will keep responding to it. He had 4 pts at halftime with 2 turnovers and 0 assists in a game where his team was down 47-20.

All his numbers were in garbage time in the 2nd half and he did nothing in the first half so he might be a great prospect, but that game is certainly not evidence of it.

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My dream lineup next season:

PG IQ - Jakucionus - Shead
SG Dick - Jakobe - Battle
SF Barrett - Agbaji - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Mogbo - Tomislav
C Poeltl - Olynyk - Zvonimir

905 - Chomche, Sorber

[Ell Curry]

Ivisic - Wasn't impressed. Shot absolutely looks legit and he's tall, but he was still outplayed by the other Arkansas big men in Aidoo and Brazile. That's not shameful, those are solid starting quality college bigs, but they're probably G-Leaguers/Europe guys. Stats imply he's normally a shotblocker, but didn't disrupt or block much tonight. Might have just been a bad game, but he looked more like the kind of shooting 5 that Notre Dame or some Big 10 teams have that just isn't strong or quick enough to survive as NBA centers.

Zvonimir was hurt and didn't play last game and was brought off the bench and only played 9 mins so seems not 100% yet.

A 7'2 player that can block shots and shoot the 3 at 50% would be welcome to play 20-24 mpg. Other Razorback bigs would just be dime a dozen in the NBA.

I don't really disagree, just saying he didn't play well and the other bigs (who again should be solid G-Leaguers, not bad players at all) were more impactful. If he was hurt that explains it.

I think he'll get drafted, and getting 20-24 minutes a night will depend on if he can develop athletically enough to be good on defence and the boards.

Presumably he's not going to hit 50% from 3. Anyone who can do that and is even an average college player and over 6"6 would be a solid pro if they can hit 50% from 3.

The last 7 footers in college who hit 35% from 3 on 1+ attempt per game, over 10 block rate:

Star:
Chet Holmgren
Jaren Jackson Jr

Broke out as a rotation guy this year:
Jay Huff

In the league, apparently:
Liam Robbins

Not in the league:
Marcus Bingham (was he really 7 feet? I remember him being more like a big PF size, but he's listed at 6'10 or 6'11 in some places, 7 on Torvik where I used to find this date). Seems to be doing well in Israel, so maybe he'll get a shot somewhere in the summer league. Again, kinda unfair to put him in here if he's a little thin and average height for a 5 when Ivisic is tall even for an NBA center.

So yeah, on paper he'd make sense for us at the Portland pick. 1-2 years of sitting and working on his body and game while Olynyk finishes up, then it's him vs Chomche for the backup center spot.

[Stromile12]

That dude from Illinois looking like Keith Van Horn out there

[mademan]

Flagg
Harper
Denim
Jak

Get me one of those 4 and its a successful season. Im not even sure what order i have them in cause i like them all so much.