TeamDisgruntled wrote:Looks a lot like poor man’s SGA when I watch him.
How poor are we talking? Put all your money into the s&p 2 months ago poor?
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TeamDisgruntled wrote:Looks a lot like poor man’s SGA when I watch him.
junot111 wrote:TeamDisgruntled wrote:Looks a lot like poor man’s SGA when I watch him.
How poor are we talking? Put all your money into the s&p 2 months ago poor?
I am trying to tamper with my expectations of him, but he's passed Scottie as my fave prospect on the team. But that says more about how disappointing Scottie has been this year.HumbleRen wrote:I’m shocked people see a star in the making. I’m seeing more of a star role player in the making.
junot111 wrote:TeamDisgruntled wrote:Looks a lot like poor man’s SGA when I watch him.
How poor are we talking? Put all your money into the s&p 2 months ago poor?
junot111 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I’m shocked people see a star in the making. I’m seeing more of a star role player in the making.
He's reaching the territory of being given unrealistic expectations by fans who end up inevitably disappointed
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
Psubs wrote:He could easily be Manu Ginobili 2.0. Acutally, that might be his floor now, because of the defense.
bonjovi0308 wrote:I may starting to have a concern if jakobe has been too injury prone?
Psubs wrote:He could easily be Manu Ginobili 2.0. Acutally, that might be his floor now, because of the defense.
HiJiNX wrote:Not an iso scorer. Probably never will be. But he can attack a defence well off the catch, provide defensive energy on the other side, grab some boards, hustle for loose balls, play make off the dribble. He’s got some very useful skills and a high motor. Just don’t expect an all star. Can be a great role player on a contender imo. Impactful player but not a star himself.
Jadoogar wrote:Psubs wrote:He could easily be Manu Ginobili 2.0. Acutally, that might be his floor now, because of the defense.
what in the world are you guys smoking?
First Scottie was the next Giannis, now this.
Quattro wrote:Jadoogar wrote:Psubs wrote:He could easily be Manu Ginobili 2.0. Acutally, that might be his floor now, because of the defense.
what in the world are you guys smoking?
First Scottie was the next Giannis, now this.
It never ceases to amaze me how much the average basketball fan underrates Manu Ginobili.
Nature wrote:Psubs wrote:He could easily be Manu Ginobili 2.0. Acutally, that might be his floor now, because of the defense.
wtf
HiJiNX wrote:Not an iso scorer. Probably never will be. But he can attack a defence well off the catch, provide defensive energy on the other side, grab some boards, hustle for loose balls, play make off the dribble. He’s got some very useful skills and a high motor. Just don’t expect an all star. Can be a great role player on a contender imo. Impactful player but not a star himself.
Indeed wrote:HiJiNX wrote:Not an iso scorer. Probably never will be. But he can attack a defence well off the catch, provide defensive energy on the other side, grab some boards, hustle for loose balls, play make off the dribble. He’s got some very useful skills and a high motor. Just don’t expect an all star. Can be a great role player on a contender imo. Impactful player but not a star himself.
It depends if he can make those dribble pull up 3s (probably behind screen), yet, his ball handling needs to improve, particularly, we are playing him as point guard. That would be his ceiling. For now, average case, would be what you are describing, indeed.
mdenny wrote:Indeed wrote:HiJiNX wrote:Not an iso scorer. Probably never will be. But he can attack a defence well off the catch, provide defensive energy on the other side, grab some boards, hustle for loose balls, play make off the dribble. He’s got some very useful skills and a high motor. Just don’t expect an all star. Can be a great role player on a contender imo. Impactful player but not a star himself.
It depends if he can make those dribble pull up 3s (probably behind screen), yet, his ball handling needs to improve, particularly, we are playing him as point guard. That would be his ceiling. For now, average case, would be what you are describing, indeed.
Wow. Big disagree there. I think he's the ONLY young player we have that shows promise in iso scoring. He kinda reminds me of a young jimmy butler in how he scores. Or Jalen rose. Nothing fancy. More about using angles and getting his defender slightly off balance. Using the glass alot from 5 to 6 feet while his shoulder makes space. He doesn't use his shoulder to bump like a post player. But he uses his shoulder and footwork to get 5 to 6 footers off...often using glass. Sneaky post stuff like rose and butler.
Weird because I think the iso stuff in his game is most defining of his offensive game. Or most promising. His outside shooting certainly looks serviceable. But it's the sneaky iso stuff that I think sets him apart.
If not Walter....which other young raptor shows iso potential?