ConSarnit wrote:HiJiNX wrote:ConSarnit wrote:
I don’t know the exact math but I’m guessing if he started hitting his 3’s at his normal rate his TS would be back to the 59-60% range. He’s shooting 29% on ATB 3’s. He’s normally around 38% from ATB. Ingrams current inefficiency can almost exclusively be boiled down to 6-7 miss/makes on ATB 3’s. He’s missing wide open shots he usually hits.
His assist% is tanking because his pnr ball handler frequency has been cut in half from his NOP heyday. He’s not getting the ball handling touches he’s used to. I don’t even think his ast% being down is necessarily a bad thing. He’s not a great passer. He’s an ok passer who got assists because he got the types of possessions that lead to assists. He’s not the guy you want running your offense. He did so in NOP because no one else could do it (with Zion being injured all the time). We have more creators here so we don’t need to over tax him as a creator for others.
You’re absolutely right that he’s not the guy you want running your offense. But our front office and coaching staff haven’t clued into that yet. We are overextending him, which makes him and the team look worse.
We’re really not.
His pnr frequency is down to 17%. In NOP he was at 27-28%.
He’s being assisted on 48% of his 2’s (career high by far). He’s being assisted on 89% of his 3’s (highest rate since he became a “star” in NOP).
Ingram is relying more on teammates to create shots for him than pretty much any season of his career. He’s being used as a finisher much more often than he was in NOP.
I think it’s misleading to utilize comparison stats in this context. The situations in NO versus the situation here is much different (different roster being a massive difference).
Diving deeper, Toronto doesn’t run a lot of pnr to begin with. Also, I assume the assisted twos and threes stats reflect made shots, not attempts — but I may be wrong about that. Nonetheless, averages don’t indicate trends like what we have been seeing in the last two weeks, where we have been leaning too much on Ingram to negative effect. In fact, Shead recently said that Ingram might have been slumping as a result of tired legs, which makes sense because he plays the most minutes on the team and has the highest usage in high leverage moments. To add, the stats you posted don’t indicate how long he has the ball when he gets it, the passes he chooses not to make in order to hunt his own shot, etc.
All this to say that your stats don’t say what you think they say. We can just watch the games and see what’s happening. And again, as I always say on here, stats need to be applied with context. Furthermore, stats can’t measure the psychology of the game (ex. player confidence, rhythm and flow, momentum, etc.), which has a massive impact on what happens on the court.
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