2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

JRoy · Post #1541 » by **JRoy** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:27 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Ibaka + Powell for CJ McCollum

Hard pass from POR

Kordic27 · Post #1542 » by **Kordic27** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:52 pm

What in the hell is happening to Masai and Bobby's extensions!?!?

Bruin · Post #1543 » by **Bruin** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:55 pm

JRoy wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Ibaka + Powell for CJ McCollum

Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1544 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:21 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
JRoy wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Ibaka + Powell for CJ McCollum

Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

ya its not like McCollum is young either or a 5x all star. He's 29yo and 0 all star appearances. lol

maybe not for Ibaka and Powell but its like they aren't willing to trade this guy for 0 reason.s

Raptors_128 · Post #1545 » by **Raptors_128** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:43 pm

I feel like the Celtics would be one of the teams that could trade for Harden.

Jaylen Brown + Kemba Walker + 26 for Harden + PJ Tucker

Hayward + 30 to Atlanta for $30 mill TPE.

14 + Langford + Williams + 2021 Celtics 1st for Turner

Harden/Smart/Tatum/Tucker/Turner

Man the East could be completely different. In this case the Celtics/Nets/Bucks could be in a completely different tier than the Raptors.

Oakville_Raptor · Post #1546 » by **Oakville_Raptor** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:55 pm

We all know Masai will draft an African player for one of the picks, so who do you guys think it'll be?

gerrit4 · Post #1547 » by **gerrit4** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:23 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

ya its not like McCollum is young either or a 5x all star. He's 29yo and 0 all star appearances. lol

maybe not for Ibaka and Powell but its like they aren't willing to trade this guy for 0 reason.s

I agree. I think McCollum is good, but from everything I've read Portland really overvalues McCollum & Lillard. Not to mention, in this sort of buyer's market you'd need to put up a lot to get McCollum - like Powell, Ibaka, 3 FRPs, 2 pick swaps for a guy that doesn't really move the needle as much as you'd think.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1548 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:25 pm

gerrit4 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

ya its not like McCollum is young either or a 5x all star. He's 29yo and 0 all star appearances. lol

maybe not for Ibaka and Powell but its like they aren't willing to trade this guy for 0 reason.s

I agree. I think McCollum is good, but from everything I've read Portland really overvalues McCollum & Lillard. Not to mention, in this sort of buyer's market you'd need to put up a lot to get McCollum - like Powell, Ibaka, 3 FRPs, 2 pick swaps for a guy that doesn't really move the needle as much as you'd think.

when you're offering those type of assets for a career role player with minimal all star appearance - an all star should be getting you half of the other team's assets lol

Zeno · Post #1549 » by **Zeno** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:27 pm

Given the demand for Serge, it might be a better idea to sign him to a 3 year 40 million dollar type contract and figure it out if space is needed rather than just offering the one time balloon payment.

JRoy · Post #1550 » by **JRoy** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:24 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
JRoy wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Ibaka + Powell for CJ McCollum

Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

No.

Hard pass because POR is not trading a starter for a pair of reserves, one of whom is looking to get paid soon.

Some other team can overpay Normal Powell.

I do like Ibaka but doubt POR can be afford his services.

Bruin · Post #1551 » by **Bruin** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:28 pm

JRoy wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

No.

Hard pass because POR is not trading a starter for a pair of reserves, one of whom is looking to get paid soon.

Some other team can overpay Normal Powell.

I do like Ibaka but doubt POR can be afford his services.

Pair of reserves that produce starter numbers regardless of whether they start or not? Yeah good luck getting anything better for a career non all star. The value that 2 champs can bring the blazers would be huge especially with the trash defense Portland has

JRoy · Post #1552 » by **JRoy** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:29 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Hard pass from POR

And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

ya its not like McCollum is young either or a 5x all star. He's 29yo and 0 all star appearances. lol

maybe not for Ibaka and Powell but its like they aren't willing to trade this guy for 0 reason.s

I’d love to trade CJ in a package for a 2 way player that improves POR.

Trading for depth is not that trade.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1553 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:02 pm

JRoy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:And this right here is why Portland will never get anywhere. They’re too invested in CJ with dame even though it’s not really that ideal of a pairing. Dame needs a backcourt partner that can actually play some defense too. And ibaka would be a big difference maker for them

ya its not like McCollum is young either or a 5x all star. He's 29yo and 0 all star appearances. lol

maybe not for Ibaka and Powell but its like they aren't willing to trade this guy for 0 reason.s

I’d love to trade CJ in a package for a 2 way player that improves POR.

Trading for depth is not that trade.

lets analyze this a little: Would not be surprised if Powell put up the similar stats as McCollum if he were starting tbh and you get better defense with Powell. Powell is a better 3 point shooter too in his most recent seasons. don't know if Powell would be depth when he can easily be your starting SG. and 2 years younger.

Ibaka would play and replace Zach Collins. but then again you started Melo as well and depended too much on effort from Whiteside - whom you should trade away and run with an Ibaka/ Nurkic front court - pair them up or ibaka as depth - Ibaka's ability to stretch the floor too great of an asset for Dame.

However Raptors would not want CJ and rather want/have FVV. defense first.

raptorstime · Post #1554 » by **raptorstime** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:10 pm

I would keep Serge, he is too valuable to give up so easily.

Bruin · Post #1555 » by **Bruin** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:13 pm

Minor trade but bucks need players lol they gave up a lot of their roster

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LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1556 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:37 pm

raptorstime wrote:I would keep Serge, he is too valuable to give up so easily.

If Raptors can s&t for younger assets and get something for him, that would be the best thing. same goes with FVV. I don't want to be overpaying our free agents and if a S&T opportunity comes along to get young assets/ needs/ picks that align to a quicker retool time period, it would be for the best.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1557 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:44 pm

https://www.bardown.com/channing-frye-thinks-the-best-place-for-james-harden-is-toronto-1.1553075

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SurgeIblocka · Post #1558 » by **SurgeIblocka** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:08 pm

Milwaukee stacking those second rounders to fill out roster. They are doing a great job so far, Masai should be gathering picks as well. Not sure what Bobby and Masai are up to. Just fkn pick a place to play stop waiting on Canada and move on to team building!

Skeezo · Post #1559 » by **Skeezo** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:15 pm

With the pipe dream of signing Giannis has dimmed, I think you need to change mind set into obtaining future assets

• Trade Lowry and Powell for Draft Assests
• S&T Ibaka for Draft Assets
• Sign FVV

Siakim, OG, & FVV is our foundation to build from with hopefully, 3-4 1st Rd picks in addition ot our own.

douggood · Post #1560 » by **douggood** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:Milwaukee stacking those second rounders to fill out roster. They are doing a great job so far, Masai should be gathering picks as well. Not sure what Bobby and Masai are up to. Just fkn pick a place to play stop waiting on Canada and move on to team building!

in what world is trading 2 seconds for 1 second a good deal? the bucks are frigging desperate, because they cant even afford to sign minimum veteran contracts. they have $5.4 million dollars to fill out 7 roster spots.