Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[PhilBlackson]

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[douggood]

Raps want Bogdan and but Hawks offering Gallo and pick. Raps probably stating either we take Bogdan or give us Gallo and Huerter. Lets see what transpires

Gallo and ATL pick is better than Bogdan IMO. Gallo is expiring next year ($5M guaranteed if we just want to waive him), vs. two more years for Bogdan at $18M. Neither is going to be more than scoring depth off the bench. ATL probably moves up a bit in the standings, but currently that is the #12 pick in the draft.

its not going to be a 1st round pick, likely 2 seconds.
a 1st to dump 5 million dollars next season?

[SurgeIblocka]

More and more it could make sense they are targeting Bogdan and are holding out not to give any draft capital for him

Take Flynn and Dragic for him

I think they would be looking to use the draft pick in a package for a center. If they dont get the center then they go hard after bogdan

Highly doubt we trade a FRP for a centre.

If you want Purtle its starts at a 1st pick + player and probably similar for Nurkic


If we can get bogdan for Dragic and future 2nd round pick

Then we can maybe get purtle for a first round pick, khem birch or boucher and other player to match salaries as Purtle is 8 mil and Spurs dont need dragic.

Or you could trade for Gallo, get a pick back and flip that pick to spurs for Purtle

[Asif16]

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[Sandman88]

Gallo makes a lot of ‘big picture’ sense, especially since we wouldn’t have to attach picks to it to get it done.

His contract can be waived at $5MM if traded on or before the draft. This allows us to send his contract out with picks on draft night for a multi year high wage player, then said team can essentially waive Gallo for a fraction of the cost. Kinda punting the Dragic expiry move… let our team do what they do this year.. then have the trade chips to make a more substantial move on draft night, when other team are more willing to make foundational changes to what they’re building.

Gallo will be viewed as a disappoint by most fans, but def think that’s there’s a bigger picture play in mind if that’s the route Masai goes.

The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.

[douggood]

Seems like it’ll be Gallo. Dragic for Gallo + 2nd. Raps repeat the same thing next year with Gallo + 2023 1st.

No thanks.

Straight swap or forget it. We're already doing the favor of taking on an extra $5M next year for a cheap franchise that has a bunch of money that will need to spent soon to retain their other young players.

dragic for Gallo + 2nd
is the suggestion

futher by taking gallo and attaching a first and see if you can get anything better at the draft/offseason before the decision date.

[redeye514]

Seems like it’ll be Gallo. Dragic for Gallo + 2nd. Raps repeat the same thing next year with Gallo + 2023 1st.

No thanks.

Straight swap or forget it. We're already doing the favor of taking on an extra $5M next year for a cheap franchise that has a bunch of money that will need to spent soon to retain their other young players.

He’s saying the raps get the second.

I agree with this.. if we don’t have a play for the needle mover we want.. gallon is a perfect way to punt. Go shopping on draft night with his contract + picks.

If a star is available, then Gallo + 1or 2 FRPs could be enough.

If a true super star is available, the Gallo / OG / 2 FRPS will be an amazing package for a team looking to hit reset.

[PhilBlackson]

Seems like it’ll be Gallo. Dragic for Gallo + 2nd. Raps repeat the same thing next year with Gallo + 2023 1st.

No thanks.

Straight swap or forget it. We're already doing the favor of taking on an extra $5M next year for a cheap franchise that has a bunch of money that will need to spent soon to retain their other young players.

dragic for Gallo + 2nd
is the suggestion

futher by taking gallo and attaching a first and see if you can get anything better at the draft/offseason before the decision date.

Yeah I wanted to delete once I realized I read it wrong but ofc bunch of posts came in like 2 seconds after lol but I'd do it if they make it a couple of 2nds, hopefully we can get Champagnie's brother then.

[Asif16]

Bogdan is a pipe dream. He hasn't been reported in any actual rumors outside of the reported Ben Simmons deal. Which goes to show how much the Hawks value Bogdan

The Hawks are def trying to trade us Gallo for Dragic. Bogdan aint available

[SurgeIblocka]

Its possible to get both bogdan or gallo and purtle

Dragic and Svi + 2nd round pick for Bogdan ( what we want ) or Gallo what they want to give us

Khem Birch + Yuta + 1st round pick - Purtle

[redeye514]

Gallo makes a lot of ‘big picture’ sense, especially since we wouldn’t have to attach picks to it to get it done.

His contract can be waived at $5MM if traded on or before the draft. This allows us to send his contract out with picks on draft night for a multi year high wage player, then said team can essentially waive Gallo for a fraction of the cost. Kinda punting the Dragic expiry move… let our team do what they do this year.. then have the trade chips to make a more substantial move on draft night, when other team are more willing to make foundational changes to what they’re building.

Gallo will be viewed as a disappoint by most fans, but def think that’s there’s a bigger picture play in mind if that’s the route Masai goes.

The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.

So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Why would Atlanta trade Bogdan? Get out the dream world guys he's a key player for them. Aint gonna happen

Because the fit isnt working its not always about talent but also fit. They need a change

Huh? He's a key piece off their bench and plays good for them.. You tripping if you think they wanna put Dragic in for Bogdan

[SurgeIblocka]

Why would Atlanta trade Bogdan? Get out the dream world guys he's a key player for them. Aint gonna happen

Because the fit isnt working its not always about talent but also fit. They need a change

Huh? He's a key piece off their bench and plays good for them.. You tripping if you think they wanna put Dragic in for Bogdan

Their team is not working out as expected they need a different cast around Tre, they were trying for CJ and missed out. They probably know they are not going anywhere this season and may moss playoffs so might as well open up capspace to get someone else in the summer

[Dalek]

Danilo Gallinari is 33 and averages 10 PPG (39% from three) in 23 minutes; DBPM -1.4

Mike Muscala is 30 and average 8 PPG (43% from three) in 14 minutes; DBPM 1.1

Both are about 6'10 floor stretching bigs with Gallo having more creation ability. I am not convinced I like Gallo at his cost plus he is always injured. Plus he is old and almost as irrelevant as Dragic. At the very least, you have to wonder how much better Gallo is at this point.

A thing to consider about shooters is that new guys seem to struggle coming to Toronto because the defense has such high energy required. I'd worry if you spend a lot you may not get the same level of scoring.

Myles Turner is the play for me. Toronto needs a starting caliber C. He bring rim protection and with a team full of elite defenders, he could make this the best defense in the NBA. Not just add 10 extra PPG off the bench.

[Sandman88]

Gallo makes a lot of ‘big picture’ sense, especially since we wouldn’t have to attach picks to it to get it done.

His contract can be waived at $5MM if traded on or before the draft. This allows us to send his contract out with picks on draft night for a multi year high wage player, then said team can essentially waive Gallo for a fraction of the cost. Kinda punting the Dragic expiry move… let our team do what they do this year.. then have the trade chips to make a more substantial move on draft night, when other team are more willing to make foundational changes to what they’re building.

Gallo will be viewed as a disappoint by most fans, but def think that’s there’s a bigger picture play in mind if that’s the route Masai goes.

The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.

So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.

[reeelax]

If Lebron and Westbrook got traded for Harden and Irving wouldn’t most of the problems for both teams be solved?

AD, Harden, Irving on Lakers
Lebron, Durant, Westbrook on Nets.

How much crack did you smoke today?

[WuTang_CMB]

The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.

So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.

They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today

[redeye514]

The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.

So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.

I 100% agree that we can, and are willing to trade a FRP. But it has to be for a player they view as a long term fit.. Poetle? Sure, he’s worth a FRP. But now we’re talking different things… i don’t think we’re really disagreeing, I’m just saying that Gallo could be an ideal move as it doesn’t cost us any picks (so we retain trade currency for elsewhere).. he helps our bench a little.. and most importantly, he gives us an awesome trade chip for draft night. If Masai can find 2 deals that gets us Gallo * another long term piece, ie Poetle, fantastic. All I’m saying is that I won’t be heart broken if all we do this deadline is a Dragic-Gallo straight swap. All that tells me is that Masai couldn’t find the long term piece he wanted at an affordable price, but still maintained all his trade chips (including a sizeable contract to move) while still giving our current team a little bit of help for this year.

[SurgeIblocka]

So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.

They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today

That same pick can just as easily turn out to be Bruno. You have to give up something to get something and if the team is playing this good when they are healthy this team deserves to have support to see how far they can go