2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

[Rapsfan07]

vj just hit controlled baseline fadeaway vs 6'5 player

I think Edgecombe will be at worst the 3 best player from this draft.

[dballislife]

the only thing i hate about fleming is that he drops about 1 dime a game as a junior, shows poor handles vision and decision making, but the d the size and shooting is intriguing

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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all we need is 6'4.5-6'5 WS and 35 inch vert

[Psubs]

the only thing i hate about fleming is that he drops about 1 dime a game as a junior, shows poor handles vision and decision making, but the d the size and shooting is intriguing

That's why they also draft Alex Condon who has an A/T of 2 at 6'11. Getting Fleming and Condon would be 2 of the most fit players in the draft and both can shoot the 3.

[LoveMyRaps]

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Well we can probably forget about Tre as well.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Well we can probably forget about Tre as well.

He made it a 5 man draft. Those top 5 guys are going to all be good.

[Dalek]

Maybe going to focus on Derick Queen film if things keep trending this way. Getting him at 10-11 might be the best bet at a star later in the draft. Not my favorite but hard to argue touch and production - kind of like Sengun being drafted late.

[Tripod]

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Well we can probably forget about Tre as well.

He made it a 5 man draft. Those top 5 guys are going to all be good.

Just like every other year, right?

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Well we can probably forget about Tre as well.

He made it a 5 man draft. Those top 5 guys are going to all be good.

Just like every other year, right?

Who’s the weak link, and why?

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[Tripod]

He made it a 5 man draft. Those top 5 guys are going to all be good.

Just like every other year, right?

Who’s the weak link, and why?

No one were weak links other years either.

That's the point

[BoyzNTheHood]

Just like every other year, right?

Who’s the weak link, and why?

No one were weak links other years either.

That's the point

It’s not always about the player. Sometimes it’s the situation. Fit and opportunity are huge, especially on a first contract.

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Just like every other year, right?

Who’s the weak link, and why?

No one were weak links other years either.

That's the point

Risacher
Sarr
Reed Sheppard
Stephon Castle

[BoyzNTheHood]

Maybe I’m over thinking it, but you can’t tell me a team with two top 5 prospects is under .500 at the college level and expect me to believe that both of them are winners.

I fully understand that Rutgers roster is trash, but on the talent of two top 5 guys alone that team should be better. It’s actually crazy to see that they’re 14-16 and Purdue absolutely mopped the floor with them last night.

Harper: 13/1/2
Bailey: 12/2/0

Like, come on man…

[Yallbecrazy]

Maybe I’m over thinking it, but you can’t tell me a team with two top 5 prospects is under .500 at the college level and expect me to believe that both of them are winners.

I fully understand that Rutgers roster is trash, but on the talent of two top 5 guys alone that team should be better. It’s actually crazy to see that they’re 14-16 and Purdue absolutely mopped the floor with them last night.

Harper: 13/1/2
Bailey: 12/2/0

Like, come on man…

Bailey to me is not top 10, I understand the intrigue and have him top 15 as a result of long term potential, but he's not even top 30 if next year was the only year that mattered. Harper is 3rd, but a ways back of VJ who is a long ways back of Cooper.

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Maybe I’m over thinking it, but you can’t tell me a team with two top 5 prospects is under .500 at the college level and expect me to believe that both of them are winners.

I fully understand that Rutgers roster is trash, but on the talent of two top 5 guys alone that team should be better. It’s actually crazy to see that they’re 14-16 and Purdue absolutely mopped the floor with them last night.

Harper: 13/1/2
Bailey: 12/2/0

Like, come on man…

Bailey to me is not top 10, I understand the intrigue and have him top 15 as a result of long term potential, but he's not even top 30 if next year was the only year that mattered. Harper is 3rd, but a ways back of VJ who is a long ways back of Cooper.

I just keep going with my original comp of Rashard Lewis. Bailey is likely good and maybe a borderline allstar but you'll likely have to pay max money extension for him.

I stand by Cooper Flagg is likely the only perrenial allstar and top 15 player. I can see Harper becoming a bigger Deron Williams but who knows. Also VJ being a bigger Victor Oladipo. Tre could be mini Melo.

I guess Bailey could be a healthier Michael Porter Jr with worse shooting %'s?

[Psubs]

Maybe I’m over thinking it, but you can’t tell me a team with two top 5 prospects is under .500 at the college level and expect me to believe that both of them are winners.

I fully understand that Rutgers roster is trash, but on the talent of two top 5 guys alone that team should be better. It’s actually crazy to see that they’re 14-16 and Purdue absolutely mopped the floor with them last night.

Harper: 13/1/2
Bailey: 12/2/0

Like, come on man…

Or Braden Smith is HIM. He could at least be Payton Pritchard with better passing skills. That's a borderline starter that should be drafted mid-late 1st. Though because he's only 6'0 late 1st. Maybe he's at least Shead level on offense with better shooting but slightly worse defense?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Unless I’m getting Cooper or VJ I’d rather trade down and hope some team is infatuated with a guy enough to send me a high end return. That way I get maybe another all star level player, and a pick later in the first to select a rock solid upperclassman.

I just don’t know who that team, or player is, or even if it’s possible. The only team I can think of is Phoenix but I’m not sure you get Booker or are ready for Durant yet. The 2019 team worked because we had a roster full of playoff tested guys that just needed a push, but adding KD to a roster of young guys might not make sense yet.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Maybe I’m over thinking it, but you can’t tell me a team with two top 5 prospects is under .500 at the college level and expect me to believe that both of them are winners.

I fully understand that Rutgers roster is trash, but on the talent of two top 5 guys alone that team should be better. It’s actually crazy to see that they’re 14-16 and Purdue absolutely mopped the floor with them last night.

Harper: 13/1/2
Bailey: 12/2/0

Like, come on man…

Or Braden Smith is HIM. He could at least be Payton Pritchard with better passing skills. That's a borderline starter that should be drafted mid-late 1st. Though because he's only 6'0 late 1st. Maybe he's at least Shead level on offense with better shooting but slightly worse defense?

I’ve been on the Braden Smith bandwagon since last year, I know he’s a good player. But he doesn’t account for the other 15 losses Rutgers has.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Maybe going to focus on Derick Queen film if things keep trending this way. Getting him at 10-11 might be the best bet at a star later in the draft. Not my favorite but hard to argue touch and production - kind of like Sengun being drafted late.

Queen has the framework for being a hub and in contention for #2 but he also isn't super convincing RN because we need to figure out what kind of athlete he really is and if it's comparable enough to other recent star bigs. A ton of his buckets are unassisted and as the true 5 in Maryland's lineups he's able to hold down the interior with a DRB of 28.7% and his USG goes to 31.7% which is a star player workload. The one wart is that his TOV goes to 20.7% as the true 5 with not enough assists to justify it.

Basically here are the real concerns for Queen:

-athletic testing and eye test needs to check out
-offensive rebounding
-need to verify nature of turnovers

Things that aren't a concern to me:

-being able to play the role of hub 5
-shooting... projects well here although there is still the concern of if he can comfortably extend range. sunk back to back 3s earlier in year. midrange shots aren't falling but is very advanced at generating volume w/ faceup looks.
-blk rate/defense... if you're a legit offensive hub at center blocking shots and even interior defense isn't a big deal if it's just not in your kit

As for assisted buckets compare him to CMB

queen at rim 44.2% assisted
cmb at rim 53.6% assisted
queen non-rim 2s 22.9% assisted
cmb non-rim 2s 35.7% assisted

his assisted numbers are in line with Duke Paolo

paolo at rim 42.5% assisted (-1.8 FG% compared to Queen)
paolo non-rim 2s 21.6% assisted (+3.2 FG% compared to Queen)

everything with queen hinges on whether or not he's really athletic enough for NBA