Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V2.0

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[mdenny]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

[mdenny]

I do wonder if the league wants OKC to win it. Will it be a good look to show that tanking works? Is this what the league would want? I get their best player was via trade but the majority of their other main players are from the draft excluding Shai and Alex. Now they did make some valuable trades so they still have picks.

Why do ppl keep saying this?

They have a 2nd overall.

Noone else is a top 10 pick except for Cason Wallace (drafted 10th). The rest of the team are mid first rounders and undrafted players.

The thunder have THE LEAST amount of top 10 picks in their rotation of ANY team that made the playoffs lol. They prove the EXACT opposite point - that you don't need to build a team from high draft picks.

The average draft selection of their 10 man rotation is 33rd overall lol. By the way....the average draft selection of the Raptor's 10 man rotation is 14th.

Lol the average player in the OKC rotation IS NOT EVEN A FIRST ROUNDER. They are the only playoff team for whom that is true.

It's the Raptors that are built from high draft picks. Not the thunder.

[Tripod]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

And we have a #2, #3 and #4 pick so our quota is full...lol

[Duffman100]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Don't expect any consistency at all.

Really wanted Denver to win. Damn!

[Tripod]

Minny is going to be a tough out for OKC.

[Scizzup]

Minny is going to be a tough out for OKC.

for sure but their offense is lot worse than Denver. OKC just finished this series with a +9 net rating despite going 7 games.

I don't think people still understand how good OKC defense is. Ant is the type of players their defense is built for. Ant is going to have to be on his best floor game not to average 6 turnovers this series, which you can't do.

OKC at their best if shooting variance is on their side is blowing out Minny by 20+ in 2 games and winning it in 5 games. Joker being a big man tests their defense more than Ant/Hali or Brunson would.


OKC forces a lot of turnovers and they don't turn it over much. Wolves turn the ball over a lot in general.

[mdenny]

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Don't expect any consistency at all.

Really wanted Denver to win. Damn!

I think I speak for most when I say I wish the nuggets v thunder series was best of 14. What an amazing series.

Minny v thunder should still be fun but it's gonna be a turnover festival. Not that this ia bad thing. But both teams put so much pressure on the ball. There will be very little space. I expect low scoring games.

I think both of them would destroy the free wheeling Pacers with their man on man defense. Knicks have a better chance imo.

[Boogie!]

Okc sweep

[Basketball_Jones]

Well that was a horrendous game for Denver fans. Not enough gas and firepower to keep up with OKC. Hard to find better role players then MPJ / Gordon / Brown though but they either need an upgrade or somehow find some depth with little money they have to spend.

[Los_29]

Thunder showed lots of resilience in this series. Great for them to experience this. Minnesota will be another tough series for them. Can’t wait for both conference finals.

Nuggets just didn’t have enough talent and depth.

[Pointgod]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

Naw OKC was just “lucky”.

[sidsid]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Their tank was so efficient that they basically hit twice in two years, like Orlando did. But they also developed their trade asset in SGA on top of it. (BTW this was supposed to sour him on OKC and hand him to the Raptors with Masai's more desirable approach of "good culture")

But Presti had done such a blatant, shameless full Hinkie tear down that they still also accumulated a massive pick warchest that even Ainge envies. To the point that a near 70 win chip favourite has more than double the amount of picks that our lottery bound team does.

The only equal or more desirable situation than Presti's Thunder is another full tear down, multi-year tank team in San Antonio.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Their tank was so efficient that they basically hit twice in two years, like Orlando did. But they also developed their trade asset in SGA on top of it. (BTW this was supposed to sour him on OKC and hand him to the Raptors with Masai's more desirable approach of "good culture")

But Presti had done such a blatant, shameless full Hinkie tear down that they still also accumulated a massive pick warchest that even Ainge envies. To the point that a near 70 win chip favourite has more than double the amount of picks that our lottery bound team does.

The only equal or more desirable situation than Presti's Thunder is another full tear down, multi-year tank team in San Antonio.

I'll care when I see a ring.

[720]

When we wasted a couple years after the Tampa tank going for “winning culture” the Thunder tanked and got Giddey (who they traded for Caruso), Chet, JDub, and Cason Wallace. Now they’re well on their way to a Championship.

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Not me, I’ve literally argued with a treadmill mediocre minded poster about how id rather have a 7-10 pick than be a perpetual bottom seeded playoff team.

[Dr Positivity]

Caruso teabagged the Nuggets.

[Tripod]

But they already had a generation al talent in Shai who they got for Paul George.....not a result of tanking.

Those others are easily obtainable talents, with the top in Chet on the same tier as BI - who we got for a bag of chips.

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Their tank was so efficient that they basically hit twice in two years, like Orlando did. But they also developed their trade asset in SGA on top of it. (BTW this was supposed to sour him on OKC and hand him to the Raptors with Masai's more desirable approach of "good culture")

But Presti had done such a blatant, shameless full Hinkie tear down that they still also accumulated a massive pick warchest that even Ainge envies. To the point that a near 70 win chip favourite has more than double the amount of picks that our lottery bound team does.

The only equal or more desirable situation than Presti's Thunder is another full tear down, multi-year tank team in San Antonio.

Antonio is only there because they moved up in 3 straight drafts and in 1 got a generational talent....aka luck.

If they had Scoot and Holland and had pick 6 this year....what would people think?

I look forward to them beating up on one another while shamless tank team Utah has to fight them too. Good battles ahead.

[mdenny]

I thought it wasn't a proper tank unless you get a top 5 pick lol. The thunder have exactly one top 5 pick. Cason Wallace was a 10th pick and JDub was a 12th pick. I thought those draft selections were "treadmill picks".

Their tank was so efficient that they basically hit twice in two years, like Orlando did. But they also developed their trade asset in SGA on top of it. (BTW this was supposed to sour him on OKC and hand him to the Raptors with Masai's more desirable approach of "good culture")

But Presti had done such a blatant, shameless full Hinkie tear down that they still also accumulated a massive pick warchest that even Ainge envies. To the point that a near 70 win chip favourite has more than double the amount of picks that our lottery bound team does.

The only equal or more desirable situation than Presti's Thunder is another full tear down, multi-year tank team in San Antonio.

Antonio is only there because they moved up in 3 straight drafts and in 1 got a generational talent....aka luck.

If they had Scoot and Holland and had pick 6 this year....what would people think?

I look forward to them beating up on one another while shamless tank team Utah has to fight them too. Good battles ahead.

All of the "true tanking" arguments made here ad nauseum would have one believe that San Antonio never committed to the tank and were making directionless decisions. Not to mention....they took their top 10 draft pick last summer and launched it as far as they could into the ocean.

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Jdub pick was from LAC via shai/george trade