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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1541 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed May 21, 2025 10:58 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:all the reports are saying Masai is eyeing CMB??


1. I never heard of anyone knowing what Masai is thinking.

2. Where are these reports?

3. He fits the profile of someone Masai loves to draft

4. He's an elite prospect and I will buy his jersey to replace my aging #3 Lowry jersey before the season starts. I'm very confident in him being at least an above average starter in this league.

Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1542 » by dohboy_24 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:25 am

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Congratulations. It only took 3 pages of the 2025 NBA Draft Discussion thread to get to that point.

Can we get back to the topic at hand now or would you rather continue to derail this thread?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1543 » by dohboy_24 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:31 am

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Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB


ESPN latest mock draft predicts the Raptors taking CMB at #9.

As a result, Google is showcasing that team relevant news when you search for information about the team.

When the next mock draft is released, whichever player is projected to be our pick will replace these references to CMB when you conduct the same search.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1544 » by Mark_83 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:38 am

dohboy_24 wrote:Can we get back to the topic at hand now or would you rather continue to derail this thread?

And your quoting me gets it back on track how exactly?

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1545 » by Tripod » Wed May 21, 2025 11:42 am

Bryant just comes across as a humble guy who knows his defense is his calling card....mentions watching Camara, White, Murphy, Jones, Holiday.

But also talks about progression and thinks ge can be a star in the league...so isn't content with just being that 3+D type.

And he does so without sounding arrogant or selfish.

Just seems like a kid who knows it's going to take time and us willing to work to get to his expectations. Mgt for lots of teams are going to be impressed by him and lots will feel he was under exposed this year so available later than he should be.

But for sure some will be worried about his lack of offense and seeing 14pts as his seasons best all year and only 4 games in double digits.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1546 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 21, 2025 11:42 am

I like both Bryant and Fleming. I think both will excel in our program.

I know for sure we will be drafting for plus length for their position.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1547 » by dohboy_24 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:44 am

Mark_83 wrote:
dohboy_24 wrote:Can we get back to the topic at hand now or would you rather continue to derail this thread?

And your quoting me gets it back on track how exactly?

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1 post vs dozens... yep, definitely equivalent.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1548 » by Mark_83 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:46 am

dohboy_24 wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:
dohboy_24 wrote:Can we get back to the topic at hand now or would you rather continue to derail this thread?

And your quoting me gets it back on track how exactly?

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1 post vs dozens... yep, definitely equivalent.

Keep derailing, bud. You still haven't answered my question. lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1549 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 21, 2025 12:03 pm

He’s so good

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1550 » by grant101 » Wed May 21, 2025 12:15 pm

Not a fan of drafting CMB given our roster construction (and all the moaning from fans about a lack of spacing that would likely follow), but I’ll say this: if anyone in this draft has the potential to have a Kawhi-like outcome, it’s him. In college, kawhi was an elite defensive playmaker, rebounder, and a great on-ball driver for his size/role. Out of the grouping of forwards folks are talking about (Fleming, Bryant, Essengue), CMB is the only one that checks all those boxes. The stats back this up. Also, like Kawhi, His feel for the game is miles ahead of the others.

Bryant is a fine defender, Fleming is an overrated one, and Essengue is quite bad on defense. Bryant is also the only one that I trust will shoot it well enough to where defenses respect him. Nobody in this grouping has much on ball juice (Fleming is particularly bad here). I don’t buy the idea that any of these guys is a safe pick. IMO, we should be going for upside in the lottery.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1551 » by Appostis » Wed May 21, 2025 12:54 pm

CazOnReal wrote:
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CazOnReal wrote:No it does not and that would be a horrible trade.

What are the lotto numbers for tomorrow?

Asked the person gambling on a rookie picked 16th over the proven talent.

There's definitely a consolidation trade to be had for a wing or big in exchange for RJ, Dick or Ochai (I would prefer to keep Ochai on a team-friendly deal) but it is not for an unproven talent. The oft-suggested Lively-Dick swap? That's at least an idea. Jabari Smith Jr.? Not sure who you'd swap in that deal but i'm willing to listen to that as a trade target.

Trading Dick for a non-lottery pick is is a stupid suggestion.



They just love their mystery box prize :lol: They want to give up guys(especially young guys who gave actually shown something in the NBA..FFS Dick is 21) for those lovely mystery box draft picks.
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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1552 » by Sandman88 » Wed May 21, 2025 12:55 pm

Brinbe wrote:There's def some pretty obvious landing spots with most of these lottery teams ahead of us.

Flagg and Harper are obvious
Some combination of Edgecombe/Bailey/Johnson go next to Philly/Charlotte/Utah
Brooklyn is gonna take Fears. Washington will go with Queen.

I think the Pels are the one team ahead of us that is hard to get a read on. They could go with Maluach, Kon or go completely off-the-board with someone else. Maybe they'll be a Carter Bryant team or go with CMB or Kasp, who the hell knows. They could go with Fears but doesn't seem to make much sense when they have Murray and Alvarado there.

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If the Pels do take Fears if they wanna go straight BPA, the Nets may well take Carter Bryant, as I think they're high on him, or Kasp.

I think the 3 sort of 'consensus' guys who we'll likely be picking from, depending on how the board shakes out, will be Maluach/Knueppel/Bryant.


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1553 » by dohboy_24 » Wed May 21, 2025 1:05 pm

Mark_83 wrote:
dohboy_24 wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:And your quoting me gets it back on track how exactly?

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1 post vs dozens... yep, definitely equivalent.

Keep derailing, bud. You still haven't answered my question. lol:


Lol, it doesn't help to get the thread back on track other than to point out how badly you were already doing so.

Ok, now it's my turn: How does one post (2 including this one) derail this thread more than a dozen?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1554 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed May 21, 2025 1:12 pm

dohboy_24 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB


ESPN latest mock draft predicts the Raptors taking CMB at #9.

As a result, Google is showcasing that team relevant news when you search for information about the team.

When the next mock draft is released, whichever player is projected to be our pick will replace these references to CMB when you conduct the same search.

Oh I know, but some things were more than that. For example one was called “Raptors eye dynamic Collin Murray-Boyles at No 9 hoping to unlock his two-way potential and bolster defensive toughness”

That to me sounded more than just a mock lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1555 » by JCP11 » Wed May 21, 2025 1:51 pm

grant101 wrote:Not a fan of drafting CMB given our roster construction (and all the moaning from fans about a lack of spacing that would likely follow), but I’ll say this: if anyone in this draft has the potential to have a Kawhi-like outcome, it’s him. In college, kawhi was an elite defensive playmaker, rebounder, and a great on-ball driver for his size/role. Out of the grouping of forwards folks are talking about (Fleming, Bryant, Essengue), CMB is the only one that checks all those boxes. The stats back this up. Also, like Kawhi, His feel for the game is miles ahead of the others.

Bryant is a fine defender, Fleming is an overrated one, and Essengue is quite bad on defense. Bryant is also the only one that I trust will shoot it well enough to where defenses respect him. Nobody in this grouping has much on ball juice (Fleming is particularly bad here). I don’t buy the idea that any of these guys is a safe pick. IMO, we should be going for upside in the lottery.

For me it's simple, if he develops a shot he's a top 3 player in this draft, the rest of his game is already well advanced for a sophomore. Not a lot of people here wants to wait or bet on him developing his shot to a respectable level because of Scottie and I get it but I would take him regardless and do everything I can to improve his shot. At his size when he gets downhill He's like a mini Zion. He's simply just a very good basketball player.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1556 » by Psubs » Wed May 21, 2025 2:09 pm

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grant101 wrote:Not a fan of drafting CMB given our roster construction (and all the moaning from fans about a lack of spacing that would likely follow), but I’ll say this: if anyone in this draft has the potential to have a Kawhi-like outcome, it’s him. In college, kawhi was an elite defensive playmaker, rebounder, and a great on-ball driver for his size/role. Out of the grouping of forwards folks are talking about (Fleming, Bryant, Essengue), CMB is the only one that checks all those boxes. The stats back this up. Also, like Kawhi, His feel for the game is miles ahead of the others.

Bryant is a fine defender, Fleming is an overrated one, and Essengue is quite bad on defense. Bryant is also the only one that I trust will shoot it well enough to where defenses respect him. Nobody in this grouping has much on ball juice (Fleming is particularly bad here). I don’t buy the idea that any of these guys is a safe pick. IMO, we should be going for upside in the lottery.

For me it's simple, if he develops a shot he's a top 3 player in this draft, the rest of his game is already well advanced for a sophomore. Not a lot of people here wants to wait or bet on him developing his shot to a respectable level because of Scottie and I get it but I would take him regardless and do everything I can to improve his shot. At his size when he gets downhill He's like a mini Zion. He's simply just a very good basketball player.


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Did you watch him shoot at the combine? He won't become a better shooter from 3 than Draymond. Draymond is a 32% 3pt shooter, which is better than MJ and Kobe! :lol: Though in today's NBA if he's shooting more than a wide open catch and shoot it's hurting the team.

Fleming isn't overrated. He's being mocked in the teens and even in the 20's. Those that like him know that he can be on Bam's level who was drafted 14th. A taller lankier Bam that can shoot 3's might be his ceiling but damn, that's insane. Maybe a shorter Serge Ibaka that can guard 3-5?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1557 » by dohboy_24 » Wed May 21, 2025 2:18 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
dohboy_24 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB


ESPN latest mock draft predicts the Raptors taking CMB at #9.

As a result, Google is showcasing that team relevant news when you search for information about the team.

When the next mock draft is released, whichever player is projected to be our pick will replace these references to CMB when you conduct the same search.

Oh I know, but some things were more than that. For example one was called “Raptors eye dynamic Collin Murray-Boyles at No 9 hoping to unlock his two-way potential and bolster defensive toughness”

That to me sounded more than just a mock lol


Nope. Just Google doing Google things.

The algo is referencing this article as one of the Top Stories related to the Raptors, likely because it was recently published and the topic is tangentially relevant to the team.

Since the article was published on a website that is primarily focused on motorcycle sports and the author is not a draft expert of any means, I wouldn't take it as an indication of the team's interest in him as a prospect.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1558 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 21, 2025 2:31 pm

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Post#1559 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed May 21, 2025 2:39 pm

Draft Khaman fills in our back up C role immediately.
If we draft Fleming, we can say goodbye to Boucher
If we draft Bryant, we can say goodbye to Lawson and maybe one of Ochai or Dick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1560 » by God Squad » Wed May 21, 2025 2:40 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:all the reports are saying Masai is eyeing CMB??


1. I never heard of anyone knowing what Masai is thinking.

2. Where are these reports?

3. He fits the profile of someone Masai loves to draft

4. He's an elite prospect and I will buy his jersey to replace my aging #3 Lowry jersey before the season starts. I'm very confident in him being at least an above average starter in this league.

Just search raptors on google lol. When I did that I kept seeing CMB

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