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Re: Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA 

Post#1561 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:22 am

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Sandman88 wrote:The big picture is a championship, and the league is wide open right now. The raptors have an already good, young team, they just need a bench. Gallo is washed at this point, don’t see him contributing much in Nurse’s system.

So yeah, it would rightfully be a disappointment if that’s the only move.


So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.


:lol: it would take better than old ass Gallo for us to make a Finals...come on.

It would at minimum be a legit 6th man type like Bogi, HBarnes etc.
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Post#1562 » by Sandman88 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:23 am

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So you want the raptors to push chips all in for this year? If that’s the route, we should have multiple FRPs being shopped… which is Obv not the case.

I dunno man, I agree the east is wide open.. I agree we need bench help.. I agree that we can absolutely shock the NBA with a deep run, I just still think this is developmental year, so we’re not going to trade any FRPs unless the incoming player is someone that we truly want for multiple years. We won’t ‘settle’ on a player if it means losing a FRP.. and if said player is t available, I would rather we punt, save our draft capital, and go shopping again on draft night.

I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.


They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today

Any team is a key injury away from sliding in the standings. Getting bench help/more depth helps you in the event one of the starters gets injured, so that they don’t slide in the standings. The end goal is winning and they absolutely have a shot this season. I’d be surprised if they if they don’t get a key player
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Post#1563 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:28 am

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Sandman88 wrote:I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.


They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today


That same pick can just as easily turn out to be Bruno. You have to give up something to get something and if the team is playing this good when they are healthy this team deserves to have support to see how far they can go


not when u have the draft history our team has. You dont give up this years FRP unless its for a game changer.
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Post#1564 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:30 am

Sandman88 wrote:
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Sandman88 wrote:I think the raptors can afford to surrender a protected first for the right player. If they acquire Gallo and another key piece(poeltl)it could be enough to make the finals.


They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today

Any team is a key injury away from sliding in the standings. Getting bench help/more depth helps you in the event one of the starters gets injured, so that they don’t slide in the standings. The end goal is winning and they absolutely have a shot this season. I’d be surprised if they if they don’t get a key player


But you cant take that risk knowing we likely land 6-8 standings and possibility of losing in 1st round. We aren't sitting top 3 currently. You get ousted in the 1st round, then what? Just bad start to off-season. It's still year 1, gotta stay patient and keep building. Bobby already saying what I'm saying
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Post#1565 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:32 am

I mean, I wouldn't mind Dinwiddie tbh. Sure, he's having a meh year but the Defense aint bad and he can create his own shot and we need that off the bench at times. Probably the only thing that's stopping that deal is that 3rd year of his contract.
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Post#1566 » by SurgeIblocka » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:32 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
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They wont this season because they can easily slide back in standings. Even if the pick is lottery protected, you dont do it. Forfeiting a pick 15-20 is just bad business when you can easily be slotted 8-6 in the east and lose in the 1st round this year.

Bobby already admitted this today


That same pick can just as easily turn out to be Bruno. You have to give up something to get something and if the team is playing this good when they are healthy this team deserves to have support to see how far they can go


not when u have the draft history our team has. You dont give up this years FRP unless its for a game changer.


There comes a time when you have your core and you need experienced players. Even if we hit on a 15th pick it takes two years before you see the results, even if you take Fred and Pascal as an example. No sense to waste Pascal Freds and Gary and OG’s next two years at a lower salary on that. Also to extend Fred, Pascal, Trent and OG will not be possible to build a team around them at gheir higher salaries so we may lose a few and just dont know what happens with that new team.

This is the time you use your picks to add depth to the bench!
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Post#1567 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:33 am

Is Serge Ibaka a healthy scratch tonight? Hmmmmm....
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Post#1568 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:34 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
That same pick can just as easily turn out to be Bruno. You have to give up something to get something and if the team is playing this good when they are healthy this team deserves to have support to see how far they can go


not when u have the draft history our team has. You dont give up this years FRP unless its for a game changer.


There comes a time when you have your core and you need experienced players. Even if we hit on a 15th pick it tales two years before you see the results, even if you take Fred and Pascal as an example. No sense to waste Pascal Freds and Gary and OG’s next two years at a lower salary on that.

This is the time you use your picks to add depth to the bench!



you wanna use picks to get starters not some bench dudes..... waste of assets
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Post#1569 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:36 am

Fischer is reporting that ORL might buy out Gary Harris -- send Goran to ORL then he doesn't even need to move his corpse from MIA.
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Post#1570 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:36 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
That same pick can just as easily turn out to be Bruno. You have to give up something to get something and if the team is playing this good when they are healthy this team deserves to have support to see how far they can go


not when u have the draft history our team has. You dont give up this years FRP unless its for a game changer.


There comes a time when you have your core and you need experienced players. Even if we hit on a 15th pick it tales two years before you see the results, even if you take Fred and Pascal as an example. No sense to waste Pascal Freds and Gary and OG’s next two years at a lower salary on that.

This is the time you use your picks to add depth to the bench!


It's not though. You dont forfeit your FRP when you can easily slide back. Just bad business.

They arent going to do it for bench help. They can find bench help without sacrificing their FRP.
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Post#1571 » by SurgeIblocka » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:36 am

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
not when u have the draft history our team has. You dont give up this years FRP unless its for a game changer.


There comes a time when you have your core and you need experienced players. Even if we hit on a 15th pick it tales two years before you see the results, even if you take Fred and Pascal as an example. No sense to waste Pascal Freds and Gary and OG’s next two years at a lower salary on that.

This is the time you use your picks to add depth to the bench!



you wanna use picks to get starters not some bench dudes..... waste of assets


You use picks and your starter to get a better starter! No one gives you their better starter for just picks and scraps.

Also it should be clear the team doesnt want to touch their starters from Bobby’s conference today. They know their core and its set, now its fitting pieces around them.
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Post#1572 » by MavCarter » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:37 am

I wouldn't be opposed to trading a first (obviously protected incase the season backfires)for a highly valuable bench player on a longer deal tbh. Org has proved by now that they can find young talent (champagnie had a nice game tonight btw)
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Post#1573 » by MavCarter » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:41 am

Serge was a valuable bench player on that championship team and he was traded for a first and young player fwiw
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Post#1574 » by BramptonYute » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:43 am

After hearing Websters comments, I feel like they'll keep the first rounder this year. Thats the right move.
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Post#1575 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:43 am

“It’s the question of the moment,” Webster said on Tuesday. “Two, three weeks ago before we came together, I think we might have had a different conversation. I think we’re cognizant of what the team looks like now, but we also realize it could go the other way. So there’s a sense of optimism but also, what’s the overall timeline for this team? What were the expectations coming in, and are we ahead of schedule, behind schedule, or kind of right on schedule?”


This speaks to keeping the FRP and not going all in when you can easily fall back.

It's the smart move especially in year 1 of this new era.
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Post#1576 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:44 am

MavCarter wrote:Serge was a valuable bench player on that championship team and he was traded for a first and young player fwiw


Serge was much better than anyone available on the market right now. He could protect the rim, space the floor and was a decent age. Aint no1 out there like that atm.
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Post#1577 » by Asif16 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:44 am

There's a 99% chance that this means absolutely nothing....but Dragic just randomly started following the rockets on twitter and "liked" one their posts like 20 min ago.

If you go to his "likes" section, yall will see it too. Kinda odd right? But probably nothing
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Post#1578 » by douggood » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:45 am

MavCarter wrote:Serge was a valuable bench player on that championship team and he was traded for a first and young player fwiw

yeah but the timeline of that team and this team is different
that team at that moment was top of league for a couple seasons, made ECF the year before, were 2 deep at every position.
we are just starting that journey.
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Post#1579 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:45 am

Asif16 wrote:There's a 99% chance that this means absolutely nothing....but Dragic just randomly started following the rockets and "liked" one their posts like 20 min ago.

If you go his "likes" section, yall will see it too. Kinda odd right? But probably nothing

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Post#1580 » by Tripod » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:46 am

We surely can improve our bench by not trading our frp. They clearly like this starting 5 and it's playing well so stay the course. Add a guard who can handle the ball and score.

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