2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Morris_Shatford]

I don't think you could get a 1st with that because I'm not sure they really want to dump Noel and they would still be taking on Birch which I think is a downgrade for them. Maybe you could get the Charlotte 2nd I mentioned. You'd save 450K this year so I think you might have room to convert Champagnie and open up a two-way spot to sign someone they want to try like maybe DJ Wilson or someone on the 905. But I also think this would probably mean keeping Boucher or Yuta next year isn't happening so perhaps it would be time to send those guys out too if you can get some 2nds.

I will fully admit I have no idea how much Noel is contributing to the non-stat sheet stuff;
I just looked at 4pts / 6rb w/ an FG% significantly lower than last season and assumed he may be a guy they may want to move off of.

My goal really would be to help a team clear salary for this summer, have us take on salary for next season but remain enough below the tax threshold to use the MLE and sign our FRP, and maybe get some functional bench pieces along with some draft capital for our largest expiring,.

It may be very possible that Burks, Walker, and Noel are more valuable to the Knicks than the open market.

[Morris_Shatford]

Pacers are asking for 2 first rounders for Levert lol this asking prices are stupid.

They can ask for whatever they want
The price if they want to move him is likely far lower.

[gerrit4]

I'd consider a trade where we take on a bad contract and a pick for Dragic. For example Dragic for Fournier and a future first could work, especially considering NY still has Dallas's 2023 pick. Fournier has been pretty bad in Boston/NY, but on paper he's a great fit as a bench player who can make some plays, hit threes and actually get minutes on our team. The real prize would be the pick, as we could start to stockpile some assets to make a bigger move later on.

[rrdjutriurt]

Teams calling about Spurs Dejounte Murray since the Spurs will miss playoffs once more. He would be a nice get for the Raps being a former 2018 NBA all defensive 2nd teamer and still in in the first year of a super cheap 4 year contract. Yet he has off the charts offensive stats for a 25 yo.

He would probably cost a couple first rounders plus who knows what else but with stats like 19.2ppg, 8.4rpg, 9.1apg, 2.0 steals at 6'4" and a 6'9"ws he could play shooting guard also and is the proto-typical NN type player. Only downfall might be 31% from three but as a 25 yo there is still plenty of time for improvement.

[Dalek]

Teams calling about Spurs Dejounte Murray since the Spurs will miss playoffs once more. He would be a nice get for the Raps being a former 2018 NBA all defensive 2nd teamer and still in in the first year of a super cheap 4 year contract. Yet he has off the charts offensive stats for a 25 yo.

He would probably cost a couple first rounders plus who knows what else but with stats like 19.2ppg, 8.4rpg, 9.1apg, 2.0 steals at 6'4" and a 6'9"ws he could play shooting guard also and is the proto-typical NN type player. Only downfall might be 31% from three but as a 25 yo there is still plenty of time for improvement.

I think the cost will be high when dealing with the Spurs. Murray is a guy they invested a lot into, so I would think they would have 2FRPs in mind plus rotation players. An All-NBA anything is going to be a steep price.

[alpngso]

i’d trade OG for Dejounte. Add picks and players here and there but OG and Murray as the cornerstone of the deal

[Dalek]

I really wonder when Washington pulls the plug on the season. The Clippers loss was a special type of humiliation and maybe will will the front office to cut back a bit.

I'd really like a smaller deal along the lines of KCP and Thomas Bryant for Dragic, Svi and Flynn. KCP has another year, but he'd be a nice defender/shooter to come off the bench or spot start (only partially guaranteed next year). Bryant used to play with OG in college and has played in the Rico runs. I have long liked his game but he hasn't been healthy until recently.

Flynn is a nice young PG for them to test out while Dragic helps them save money next year. Svi is a token shooter who may play well with them not having to defend the way we expect.

[execoftheyear]

I wouldn't mind a Boucher+Dragic for Eric Gordon+Theis only if we don't have to give up picks which we most likely won't have to given how much salary we'd be taking back.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

i’d trade OG for Dejounte. Add picks and players here and there but OG and Murray as the cornerstone of the deal

na that ain't happening. only way OG gets traded is for a superstar because Masai.

[tecumseh18]

I wouldn't mind a Boucher+Dragic for Eric Gordon+Theis only if we don't have to give up picks which we most likely won't have to given how much salary we'd be taking back.

Wow, Theis's contract is so ... bad. Two more seasons guaranteed after this one, escalating to 9.2 mill. For that, I'd give them Khem Birch, NOT Boucher.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I wouldn't mind a Boucher+Dragic for Eric Gordon+Theis only if we don't have to give up picks which we most likely won't have to given how much salary we'd be taking back.

Wow, Theis's contract is so ... bad. Two more seasons guaranteed after this one, escalating to 9.2 mill. For that, I'd give them Khem Birch, NOT Boucher.

the real goal is Eric Gordon in that trade.

[tecumseh18]

I wouldn't mind a Boucher+Dragic for Eric Gordon+Theis only if we don't have to give up picks which we most likely won't have to given how much salary we'd be taking back.

Wow, Theis's contract is so ... bad. Two more seasons guaranteed after this one, escalating to 9.2 mill. For that, I'd give them Khem Birch, NOT Boucher.

the real goal is Eric Gordon in that trade.

Oh believe me, I understand. And if taking back Theis without giving up a pick is the cost of that, then ... OK.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Wow, Theis's contract is so ... bad. Two more seasons guaranteed after this one, escalating to 9.2 mill. For that, I'd give them Khem Birch, NOT Boucher.

the real goal is Eric Gordon in that trade.

Oh believe me, I understand. And if taking back Theis without a pick is the cost of that, then ... OK.

ya no way we give anyone a FRP pick for that trade package. maybe a 2nd rounder.

[Ell Curry]

Dort, #30 and #34 for Flynn and our first rounder hasn't been discussed much, but OKC has 4 top 35 picks they need to consolidate (especially with all their extra picks) and we might be okay with moving down to get an extra pick and a Canadian guard who can defend physically and drive a bit. It seems like a lot for OKC to give up, but end of the day they need stars and have a better chance with the #15 pick than Dort or those 2 picks.

[Spida888]

Dort, #30 and #34 for Flynn and our first rounder hasn't been discussed much, but OKC has 4 top 35 picks they need to consolidate (especially with all their extra picks) and we might be okay with moving down to get an extra pick and a Canadian guard who can defend physically and drive a bit. It seems like a lot for OKC to give up, but end of the day they need stars and have a better chance with the #15 pick than Dort or those 2 picks.

Dort's a lot better than Flynn so I don't think OKC will give up 2 early 2nds.

If something like this were to happen though, maybe it's considered on draft night. When both teams have a better idea of prospects available and know their draft positions.

[Ell Curry]

Dort, #30 and #34 for Flynn and our first rounder hasn't been discussed much, but OKC has 4 top 35 picks they need to consolidate (especially with all their extra picks) and we might be okay with moving down to get an extra pick and a Canadian guard who can defend physically and drive a bit. It seems like a lot for OKC to give up, but end of the day they need stars and have a better chance with the #15 pick than Dort or those 2 picks.

Dort's a lot better than Flynn so I don't think OKC will give up 2 early 2nds.

If something like this were to happen though, maybe it's considered on draft night. When both teams have a better idea of prospects available and know their draft positions.

That's fair, but I really do think a team with as many picks as OKC is probably always open to discuss moving 2-3 picks/young players for a chance to move up in the draft and get some higher upside and likely to make it rookies then having to start cutting guys and drafting whatever European they can stash.

[JShuttlesworth]

What's Portland's asking price for Nurk?

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I'd consider a trade where we take on a bad contract and a pick for Dragic. For example Dragic for Fournier and a future first could work, especially considering NY still has Dallas's 2023 pick. Fournier has been pretty bad in Boston/NY, but on paper he's a great fit as a bench player who can make some plays, hit threes and actually get minutes on our team. The real prize would be the pick, as we could start to stockpile some assets to make a bigger move later on.

if you were looking for a pick, I would rather get burks + walker. actually gives the team more depth and the contract is only for two more years. also saves enough money to sign another minimum contract player.

[douggood]

I'd consider a trade where we take on a bad contract and a pick for Dragic. For example Dragic for Fournier and a future first could work, especially considering NY still has Dallas's 2023 pick. Fournier has been pretty bad in Boston/NY, but on paper he's a great fit as a bench player who can make some plays, hit threes and actually get minutes on our team. The real prize would be the pick, as we could start to stockpile some assets to make a bigger move later on.

if you were looking for a pick, I would rather get burks + walker. actually gives the team more depth and the contract is only for two more years. also saves enough money to sign another minimum contract player.

walker has 1 more year. Burks has 2 years but second year is team option. Fournier has 3 years but the 3rd year is team option.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I'd consider a trade where we take on a bad contract and a pick for Dragic. For example Dragic for Fournier and a future first could work, especially considering NY still has Dallas's 2023 pick. Fournier has been pretty bad in Boston/NY, but on paper he's a great fit as a bench player who can make some plays, hit threes and actually get minutes on our team. The real prize would be the pick, as we could start to stockpile some assets to make a bigger move later on.

if you were looking for a pick, I would rather get burks + walker. actually gives the team more depth and the contract is only for two more years. also saves enough money to sign another minimum contract player.

walker has 1 more year. Burks has 2 years but second year is team option. Fournier has 3 years but the 3rd year is team option.

yeah the extra year for fournier is a problem. the cap should go up but fvv and trent jr are free agents that year.