2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[timdunkit]

TPE for Jaric and Thabeet.

Jaric was bought out I believe and plays in Europe.

[KrazyP]

To Memphis: Jarret Jack, Top 3 Lottery 2011 pick, DD, Miami pick
To Toronto: Conley, Mayo

DeRozan and a top 3 pick? That's a lot to pay for a backcourt that's rather small, and may be broken up by Memphis, because the two don't seem to be compatible with one another, when talking about Conley and Mayo. But don't get me wrong, either one would be a great acquisition for our team. I actually think Conley fits pretty well with DeRozan.

Overall, though, I think Memphis and Toronto make pretty good trade partners. An ideal trade for this Raptors team to make would be to acquire Mike Conley and see what he can do for you at PG. It's worth it, because the guy still has a lot of potential at only 22 yrs. of age. It'd be nice to have a PG prospect to watch develop in a season that can be deemed as 'the season of development'.

And also, last time I checked, Xavier Henry has yet to sign with Memphis. He's another top prospect that I would look into acquiring, although it would probably come at the expense of Sonny Weems. I say, try to accumulate as many assets as you can, kind of like what OKC has done.

Woops sorry I meant 2011 pick thats top 3 protected (so if its in the top 3 we keep it). I personally think the problem with Conley/Mayo is Gay. Three guys on the wings who all need the ball to be effective sucks and is part of the reason Conley has underachieved. But he is still one of the more athletics PG"s in the league and could be a solid PG for years to come.

Demar is nice but Mayo is a way better prospect and has way better tools then Demar. He's also slightly held back because of the scoring options on Memphis. He'll be up for an extension soon and I doubt Memphis would want to give him a lucrative deal to stay with Gasol looking at a bigger deal next summer. He comes to Toronto getting the opportunity to be the #1 option on the wings.

Mayo is a bit overhyped, I don't seem him developing into much more than a Jamal Crawford/Ben Gordon type of scoring guard. He may have already peaked statistically. He will never be elite. Demar is may also never become elite but I'd rather hold on to him and see how his development curve plays out.....his ability to get to the line considering his age and underdeveloped body could be indication of stardom down the road.

[SkywalkerAC]

i'm really not seeing much out there that makes sense at the moment. hopefully we will use our TPE to pick up another draft pick or prospect from a team in financial trouble. hopefully patience pays off.

[Live Free]

I didn't check the numbers so some tweaking might have to go down:

Denver Trades: Melo, JR Smith
Denver Gets: Favors, Barbosa, Evans (expiring), Toronto's unprotected 1st round pick (this years)

New Jersey Trades: Harris, Favors
New Jersey Gets: Melo

Minnesota Trades: Ricky Rubio
Minnesota Gets: Harris, JR Smith

Toronto Trades: 1st round pick unprotected (this years), Barbosa, Evans
Toronto Gets: Ricky Rubio

[Laowai]

For Toronto giving up to much to get Rubio
Plus Minny gets nothing in the deal.
Denver gets basically a good deal but mostly from Toronto.
NJ gives up Harris who isn't any better than Jose and a rookie in Favors who they already traded to get a starter for.


If I was NJ would do it in a second likely all others to say no.

[Live Free]

For Toronto giving up to much to get Rubio
Plus Minny gets nothing in the deal.
Denver gets basically a good deal but mostly from Toronto.
NJ gives up Harris who isn't any better than Jose and a rookie in Favors who they already traded to get a starter for.


If I was NJ would do it in a second likely all others to say no.

Wasn't going to reply after you said Harris isn't any better than Jose :s but whatever..

Toronto actually gets out of Barbosa's contract who has a player option for 7.5 mil next season and is most likely gonna walk after that.. And Reggies an expiring so that's about 12.5 mil cap space instantly for a FA or a bigger trade. The real trade for Toronto is our pick for Rubio, which I would do.

Rubio doesn't want to play in Minnesota.. If you can get Devin Harris then you do it, New Jersey can throw in future picks if need be

[witnessraps]

For Toronto giving up to much to get Rubio
Plus Minny gets nothing in the deal.
Denver gets basically a good deal but mostly from Toronto.
NJ gives up Harris who isn't any better than Jose and a rookie in Favors who they already traded to get a starter for.


If I was NJ would do it in a second likely all others to say no.

What do you mean minnesota gets nothing?

Harris and JR Smith are two good players. Not saying the trade is legit though lol

[IntricateOh25]

Four-way trade, after December 15th when Matthews can be traded:

To Denver:
Nicolas Batum
Joel Pryzbilla
Derrick Brown
Boris Diaw
Unprotected 1st POR

To Portland:
Carmelo Anthony
Jose Calderon

To Charlotte:
Andre Miller

To Toronto:
Wes Matthews

[mihaic]

trades like those (deng nene brand etc) need to stop IMO . All it does is make chicago elite. It doesn't really help us in the short or long run, makes us a treadmill team and not competitve enough to compete with miami, chicago, orlando, boston etc.

either strike gold in a trade or take the okc route and bomb away at the draft and hope to land someone in free agency

Unfortunately with a owner like MLSE, that won't happen (OKC route). Both and the Leafs and Raps just keep retooling, instead of an ACTUAL rebuild. It's funny but MLSE thinks they will lose fans, but the real fans would appreciate a rebuild, its the casual fans they tend to care about more. They will always cater to the casual fan, especially for basketball in Toronto.

Who do you think MLSE considers real fans?

The ones paying $$$ for watching the game and expect some level of competition in most games? Or the random Internet Board fan who will not even pay extra for a TSN2 to watch the team and rather watch a dubious Internet stream that stops or lags every other minute?

Tanking is not guaranteeing success, look at perennial bad teams such as Clips, Warriors, etc. You can only rely on tanking for so long before the team goes down the drain.

[Live Free]

Would anyone do this years pick for Danny Granger? it would have to be done in the offseason though

[Ducksplatt]

Would anyone do this years pick for Danny Granger? it would have to be done in the offseason though

It depends on how we finish. If it is top 3 or we can land a franchise PG, then no.
But, if none are available, I would go after Granger. Though not sure if Indy wants to deal him (have to see how Paul George performs - though he might be playing at the 2).

[bboyskinnylegs]

Would anyone do this years pick for Danny Granger? it would have to be done in the offseason though

If we end up with a top 5 pick, I certainly wouldn't. I'd definitely rather have one of Barnes, Jones, Knight, Irving, or Kanter on a rookie salary (meaning we also have the capspace to maybe try and sign a C like Gasol/Perkins/Horford/Oden next summer in free agency).

Granger comes off as another complementary star type of player that will put up good stats, but is definitely not a franchise player that will carry your team far. I think our team's outlook with Granger would be no better than it was with Bosh (1st round exit at best), propelling us back into mediocrity. I think Irving/Barnes/Knight have the talent and mentality to be franchise players (and Jones/Kanter have the skills/upside to as well), and they could develop and grow into a solid core with our young guys.

I'd prefer that over Granger, who, at 27, and being paid 11+ million per season, would be a guy you would try to surround with complementary pieces in what would likely end up as a failed attempt to contend (probably giving up youth/picks in the process). He really comes off as quite the volume shooter to me, as his 42.8% on 18.4 FGA would indicate.

At present, I think our team is best suited to rebuild with young talent (either through the draft, trades, or free agency--probably in that order). Trying to find that 'one star' to vault us into contention seems like an exercise in futility--and a surefire way to get us stuck in the hopeless cycle of medicority. I'd rather be patient and take the chance on a high draft prospect, or if we were going to trade our pick, I would want it to be for a young player with high upside.

[Janraj]

I say Toronto jumps into the Carmelo Anthony sweepstakes and help facilitate a trade to a team that is already good enough to take down MIA (so we can take a shot at Bosh) and we can get what we are desperately looking for: A solid C. We bring our trade exception and picks to help Lakers get Carmelo:

Denver Outgoing:

Carmelo Anthony $17,149,243

Lakers Outgoing:

Andrew Bynum
Shannon Brown

Toronto Outgoing:

$15 million TPE, OUR FIRST ROUND PICK (if we can substitute this with MIA first round, even better)

Denver Incoming:

$15 million TPE
Shannon Brown
Toronto's first round pick

Lakers Incoming:

Carmelo Anthony

Toronto Raptor's Incoming

Andrew Bynum

I know it may seem like we are giving up alot for Bynum, but lets face it, our first round pick could be 1-10, and after the top 6-7 players in next year's draft, we are going to be hitting and missing when it comes to how those players turn out in the future. Apart from Bynum's injury concerns, he is the perfect center to put beside Bargs. He also becomes an expiring contract in the 2012-2013 season. With Bynum's defensive prowess, not only will bargs play better, but I feel like DD would be that much better, and most importantly, Jose Calderon will play that much better with a defensive center watching his back. This can either mean we have an efficient Jose, or a solid trading chip to a contender looking for a solid point guard (Orlando being an example). A defensive Center can do wonders for our team, especially with confidence and since Bargs is a good man to man defender, he is only missing that help defending C to anchor the defense.

Starting Line up

Jarrett Jack/Jose Calderon
Demar Derozan/Barbosa
Linas Kleiza/Weems
Bargnani/Ed Davis
Bynum/Amir Johnson

Thats alot of athleticism that can bring out some tough Defense. We have scoring punch, and with Bynum and Kleiza we have some post up scoring that wasnt there so much when Bosh was around.


Thoughts?

p.s. Bynum is turning 23 in a month, so by giving up the draft pick we are still acquiring a very young talented player who has a ring and has the tools to become an allstar in the league. He has been proven and tested, he just cant have injuries plaguing him.

[Laowai]

What does Denver get a TPE and Shannon Brown!
Wow what value for a top ten player!
We get Bynum out the deal.....GREAT lets do it NOW!
Unfortunately would never happen in our wildest dreams.
LA is left without a C plus that allstar Shannon Brown
Denver gets zero for one of the best players in the league....Toronto got better value for Bosh and our hands were tied.

[Macho Man]

To Toronto: Dalembert
Teague

To Atlanta: Calderon
Evans

To Sacramento: Crawford

Crawford and Teague for Jose and Evans... really?

[janakhan]

What does Denver get a TPE and Shannon Brown!
Wow what value for a top ten player!
We get Bynum out the deal.....GREAT lets do it NOW!
Unfortunately would never happen in our wildest dreams.
LA is left without a C plus that allstar Shannon Brown
Denver gets zero for one of the best players in the league....Toronto got better value for Bosh and our hands were tied.

Denver gets Shannon Brown, gets a $15 million tpe and the our first round draft pick. Our first round draft pick will be top 10, because we wont be that great this year. They get $15 million to outright sign players such as Marc Gasol and Horford who could be available at the end of the season. They also get Shannon Brown who has shown some serious talent and he is pretty young. Denver cant hope for much more, look around the league and see what other teams have to offer for a REBUILDING TEAM. We are offering serious cap relief, a top 10 pick, and a very solid young player who can grow in Denver. If they send out Billups, they got a back court of Lawson and SHannon brown which I think is pretty good.

L.A. gets Carmelo, trust me they will be content letting gasol play center so they can add carmelo to the starting line up.

AND yeap we get Bynum, which is pretty solid.

[janakhan]

What does Denver get a TPE and Shannon Brown!
Wow what value for a top ten player!
We get Bynum out the deal.....GREAT lets do it NOW!
Unfortunately would never happen in our wildest dreams.
LA is left without a C plus that allstar Shannon Brown
Denver gets zero for one of the best players in the league....Toronto got better value for Bosh and our hands were tied.

Denver gets Shannon Brown, gets a $15 million tpe and the our first round draft pick. Our first round draft pick will be top 10, because we wont be that great this year. They get $15 million to outright sign players such as Marc Gasol and Horford who could be available at the end of the season. They also get Shannon Brown who has shown some serious talent and he is pretty young. Denver cant hope for much more, look around the league and see what other teams have to offer for a REBUILDING TEAM. We are offering serious cap relief, a top 10 pick, and a very solid young player who can grow in Denver. If they send out Billups, they got a back court of Lawson and SHannon brown which I think is pretty good.

L.A. gets Carmelo, trust me they will be content letting gasol play center so they can add carmelo to the starting line up.

AND yeap we get Bynum, which is pretty solid.

p.s. Toronto got a $15 million tpe, miami's first round pick, and thats it. So in this case, Denver is getting a better deal because they get Brown too.

[timdunkit]

Shannon brown is as serious talent as Sonny weems ... which isn't much .... Why the Raptors give up a first pick, I don't know but I'd rather take my cahnces on Barnes then Bynum at this point (and this is coming from a Bynum fan).

[NH]

Once the Carmelo trade goes through, Raps can go and trade TPE and an expiring (Banks/Evans) for Nene and JR Smith?? Unless Devin Harris can be had for the TPE...?

[dagger]

Let's actually do something that isn't fantasy, but may be in the realm of reality.

If the Melo trade goes down, and considering it would leave NJ without a real starting PG, and considering Aron Afflalo is now supposedly included in the trade, going to NJ (so they have lots of wing depth), would you trade Jarrett Jack to New Jersey for Terrence Williams and Kris Humphries? Kris is expiring. And if it's Afflalo + Humphries do you do it, Afflalo being a pretty solid defender.

Pros - Williams is a nice prospect, Afflalo would help our defence, Humphries represents cap relief next summer and would be add to the pile of expirings we could trade this year.

Cons - Losing JJ's leadership. Marcus Banks becomes a full time backup unless you want to trust the suspect point guard skills and defence of Barbosa.