Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread Part 9

McFurious1 · Post #161 » by **McFurious1** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:24 pm

fredericklove wrote: But u sure cavs can wait for val and his contract oversea? Wouldn't they rather get a guy who can come in and contribute right away especially having Irving who can probably contribute right away as well. They also have Varejao who plays the 5 spot, kanter wants to play 4 and val plays 5 too....see what I'm saying here. Hickson will be a good 6th man too.

I think the Cavs are in the same spot as us and are in no rush. The last I read Val's buy-out is being worked on and shouldn't be a problem, and if there is a lock-out he'll just play overseas, which is a bonus.

I think Kawhi Leonard is going to be our pick come draft day.

tdotrep2 · Post #162 » by **tdotrep2** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:32 pm

ty123 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:under stand that every other scout and nba personnel think he could got as high as 2?

Which scouts? Jim Kelly?

Having a hard time believing you can read.

Loso04 · Post #163 » by **Loso04** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:39 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
fredericklove wrote: But u sure cavs can wait for val and his contract oversea? Wouldn't they rather get a guy who can come in and contribute right away especially having Irving who can probably contribute right away as well. They also have Varejao who plays the 5 spot, kanter wants to play 4 and val plays 5 too....see what I'm saying here. Hickson will be a good 6th man too.

I think the Cavs are in the same spot as us and are in no rush. The last I read Val's buy-out is being worked on and shouldn't be a problem, and if there is a lock-out he'll just play overseas, which is a bonus.

I think Kawhi Leonard is going to be our pick come draft day.

Leonard and JJ at our sf positions wouldn't be a bad thing at all. If they can both hit 3's at a decent percentage its even better, and both can play d.

Truthrising · Post #164 » by **Truthrising** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:48 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
I think Kawhi Leonard is going to be our pick come draft day.

Not a good strategy when there would be better options at the SF spot next year.

Miller, Gilchrest, Barnes < Leonard.

KG1585 · Post #165 » by **KG1585** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:50 pm

If it comes to choosing between Walker and Kanter, I would take Kanter everytime. I don't care if he wants to play here or not.

KG1585 · Post #166 » by **KG1585** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:53 pm

truthrising wrote:
McFurious1 wrote:
I think Kawhi Leonard is going to be our pick come draft day.

Not a good strategy when there would be better options at the SF spot next year.

Miller, Gilchrest, Barnes < Leonard.

Agreed. I don't think the Raps will win more than 25 games next season, so they should have a chance at another top 5 pick and grabbing one of those SFs.

CanadaB-Ball · Post #167 » by **CanadaB-Ball** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:54 pm

KG1585 wrote:If it comes to choosing between Walker and Kanter, I would take Kanter everytime. I don't care if he wants to play here or not.

Agreed.

Silk Wilkes · Post #168 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:10 pm

Take a project big like Biyombo at #5 and then buy a late first for Iman Shumpert. This guy screams sleeper. He has those key "tools" to be an absolute pest in the NBA for his opponents. This kid measured in at 6'5.5" in shoes with a 6'9.5" wingspan. He also weighs in at 222 pounds. He would be able to guard 3 spots as well.

Let's compare this to the 6'1" tall Rajon Rondo who has a 6'9" wingspan and weighs 175 pounds.

Shumpert averaged more free throw attempts and steals than Rondo.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5s1nqtIKhc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

phailing101 · Post #169 » by **phailing101** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:10 pm

KG1585 wrote:If it comes to choosing between Walker and Kanter, I would take Kanter everytime. I don't care if he wants to play here or not.

Yuuuup!

You have to take bpa.

He really doesn't seem like the Steve Francis type a-hole who would actually sit out and wine publicly to be traded

DUNPHY · Post #170 » by **DUNPHY** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:13 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
ty123 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:under stand that every other scout and nba personnel think he could got as high as 2?

Which scouts? Jim Kelly?

Having a hard time believing you can read.

Having a hard time believing that you comprehend basic English.

Scraptor · Post #171 » by **Scraptor** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:22 pm

Since Kanter and Val didn't attend the combine, will we find out their measurements via some other avenue (a reliable one)?

CanadaB-Ball · Post #172 » by **CanadaB-Ball** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:23 pm

Scraptor wrote:Since Kanter and Val didn't attend the combine, will we find out their measurements via some other avenue (a reliable one)?

Kanter did attend the combine.

Post #173 » by **5DOM** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:25 pm

Scraptor wrote:Since Kanter and Val didn't attend the combine, will we find out their measurements via some other avenue (a reliable one)?

Kanter did attend and Valanciunas will attend the Eurocamp next month

Silk Wilkes · Post #174 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:33 pm

Youngblood wrote:Take a project big like Biyombo at #5 and then buy a late first for Iman Shumpert. This guy screams sleeper. He has those key "tools" to be an absolute pest in the NBA for his opponents. This kid measured in at 6'5.5" in shoes with a 6'9.5" wingspan. He also weighs in at 222 pounds. He would be able to guard 3 spots as well.

Let's compare this to the 6'1" tall Rajon Rondo who has a 6'9" wingspan and weighs 175 pounds.

Shumpert averaged more free throw attempts and steals than Rondo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5s1nqtI ... r_embedded

Yea Youngblood I agree with you

If possible I'd try my best to get 3 more mid-late first rounders (might be crazy). One for Shumpert, the other for Darius Morris and the third for Kenneth Faried. Both Shumpert and Morris can play 2 or even 3 positions while providing the ball handling and court vision of a point guard with the defense of a wing. If BC likes versatility show us with those two! As for Faried, dude's just a beast and momentum shifter with his energy. Every team would love to stack up on those guys.

Scraptor · Post #175 » by **Scraptor** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:06 pm

5DOM wrote:
Scraptor wrote:Since Kanter and Val didn't attend the combine, will we find out their measurements via some other avenue (a reliable one)?

Kanter did attend and Valanciunas will attend the Eurocamp next month

Sorry, meant Biyombo and Val.

Snakeyes · Post #176 » by **Snakeyes** » Mon May 23, 2011 11:50 pm

Kendon Knightwalker

phailing101 · Post #177 » by **phailing101** » Tue May 24, 2011 12:31 am

When will we know Raptors workout schedule?

dagger · Post #178 » by **dagger** » Tue May 24, 2011 12:43 am

Aron Smith of NBAdraft has some interesting stuff from Chicago:

Believes Knight is head and shoulders above Walker.

http://www.nbadraft.net//draft-buzz-combine-edition

Brinbe · Post #179 » by **Brinbe** » Tue May 24, 2011 12:46 am

What Knight did as a freshman was more than what Kemba did as a sophomore and his size and length gives him a huge edge.

What a surprise, the exact same arguments for Knight that many of us made earlier this year! :lol:

phailing101 · Post #180 » by **phailing101** » Tue May 24, 2011 12:47 am

dagger wrote:Aron Smith of NBAdraft has some interesting stuff from Chicago:

Believes Knight is head and shoulders above Walker.

http://www.nbadraft.net//draft-buzz-combine-edition

Seems to be the word from most analysts this week......and I tend to agree.

Only think I like about Kemba is the leadership abilities which I think our team sorely lacks. Evans is really our most vocal guy and he's not the captain by any means.