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Slo wrote:The Gasol trade was fine.
Hiring Nick Nurse as a head coach of a wannabe contender was our downfall.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Rob Diaz wrote:Raps haven't had a reliable big-game C since Bismack Biyombo.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Johnny Bball wrote:Useyourhead wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
Pay no attention to this JV stan that doesn't understand match-ups aren't important, thinks 3 game sample sizes rule ... and doesn't understand the simplest concepts of defense and is still talking about players that aren't here like the other guy that is just as annoying. And who is really passive aggressive.
lmao I said this from DAY 1 of the trade, i did not need to see a this 3 game sample size to know what we're seeing now was going to happen. Philly has exposed gasol for the passive offensive scorer, terrible rebounder and terrible rim protector he is. Gasol himself knows he cannot score efficiently and throws up wild garbage in the lane hoping it will go in. This is why philly can afford to leave tobias harris and jj on him and the guy is still afraid to shoot.
The pic below says it all, when you give up a pass when you have JJ on you in the lane and you are 7'1.Gfycat Video - Click to Play
This guy will defend fred and gasol until his last breath even if there's enough evidence to show otherwise...what's more hilarious is that he has the audacity to call out other posters after posting utter nonsense....
Yeah and your still talking about it like you think you're right, which is the really funny part! You had to wait for 2 games in a row that we lost for you to double you post count for a year. Actually... you had to wait for one game because Embiid really didn't score well the other two. And then spam the same ideas over and over. I've got all your knowledge already about it, so there's no need to explain more. Since it really isn't even correct.
And at the end its almost like the sample size for judging a player is now reduced to one photo/gif. Still not about anything but scoring though.
You should probably put me on ignore soon. Because I'm not defending Gasol/FVV, it the constant whinging about players that aren't here that I'm attacking. It's the OCD about it.... Just can't stop talking about players that barely made a difference. So incredibly like another guy here.
Stop OCD'ing on trying to sound so high and mighty because at the end of the day you are just an arrogant fool. Your not convincing those who truly understand basketball to believe the crap you are posting. I swear you either work or are affiliated with someone from MLSE given the lengths you have gone to defend the trade and fred bumfleet.
Useyourhead wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Useyourhead wrote:
lmao I said this from DAY 1 of the trade, i did not need to see a this 3 game sample size to know what we're seeing now was going to happen. Philly has exposed gasol for the passive offensive scorer, terrible rebounder and terrible rim protector he is. Gasol himself knows he cannot score efficiently and throws up wild garbage in the lane hoping it will go in. This is why philly can afford to leave tobias harris and jj on him and the guy is still afraid to shoot.
The pic below says it all, when you give up a pass when you have JJ on you in the lane and you are 7'1.Gfycat Video - Click to Play
This guy will defend fred and gasol until his last breath even if there's enough evidence to show otherwise...what's more hilarious is that he has the audacity to call out other posters after posting utter nonsense....
Yeah and your still talking about it like you think you're right, which is the really funny part! You had to wait for 2 games in a row that we lost for you to double you post count for a year. Actually... you had to wait for one game because Embiid really didn't score well the other two. And then spam the same ideas over and over. I've got all your knowledge already about it, so there's no need to explain more. Since it really isn't even correct.
And at the end its almost like the sample size for judging a player is now reduced to one photo/gif. Still not about anything but scoring though.
You should probably put me on ignore soon. Because I'm not defending Gasol/FVV, it the constant whinging about players that aren't here that I'm attacking. It's the OCD about it.... Just can't stop talking about players that barely made a difference. So incredibly like another guy here.
You are truly ignorant. What made me different from people who are reactionary is that i made a bunch of posts about what was wrong with gasol BEFORE GAME 2 you dimwit. Lmao at you lying about waiting 2 games, you are truly a pathetic poster.
You may want to put me on ignore because I will call out your garbage every time.
If you thought those players would barely make a difference in this series, you really don't understand basketball. I will call out management for breaking up what was the most skilled team in franchise history pre-gasol trade. Our team was a thing of beauty to watch before the JV injury as we had the best team in the league at 23-7, we could defend big and small, score inside and outside and had depth at every position, all just to piss it away...and what's even worse is the ignorant posters like you that go to great lengths to defend those same decisions.
RaptorsLife on Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:45 pm wrote:nabbs wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Nurse can’t be our head coach
Why not? Who is your choice?
Def Messina
RaptorsLife on Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:31 pm wrote:Messina sucks
dacrusha wrote:Gasol has been dominant this playoff season up until the last game.
Series is still up for grabs but the usual sort are throwing in the towel and pointing fingers.
Looking forward to the “apologize to Marc” thread that will surely be posted in the next week or so.
dacrusha wrote:Gasol has been dominant this playoff season up until the last game.
Series is still up for grabs but the usual sort are throwing in the towel and pointing fingers.
Looking forward to the “apologize to Marc” thread that will surely be posted in the next week or so.
kingz3290 wrote:dacrusha wrote:Gasol has been dominant this playoff season up until the last game.
Series is still up for grabs but the usual sort are throwing in the towel and pointing fingers.
Looking forward to the “apologize to Marc” thread that will surely be posted in the next week or so.
I highly doubt you'll see a thread with that name. Marc Gasol is washed up. He doesnt Move his feet on defense, let's Embiid progress through his moves in the paint, and all the while, Gasol has his hands up like a prisoner of war not trying to draw a foul. He's not guarding Embiid with the level of physical effort that he needs to.
Offensively, Gasol cant park himself at the 3 point line on every possession. The Raptors were 1 and done on a lot of possessions in Game 3 because no one was remotely around the basket for a rebound. If we're going to win this series, Gasol has to play in the post and not be the 2019 Bargnani.
Gold Dragon wrote:If the trade didn't happen, we would probably be 0-3 in this series.
Embiid was shooting lights out in game 3 from the perimeter. Can you really say that JV would have made a difference there? Also remember that JV is injured. So not only would we not have Gasol but we might not have had JV either if we didn't make the trade.
Delon is not a shooter and would not have helped our shooting woes. He might have helped our defense in game 3 (although much of our defensive problems were with the starters in game 3) but that was not the problem in game 2. Delon's ability to drive into the paint and put up circus shots would not have been that useful when Embiid, Monroe or Boban are sitting in the paint.
"I definitely knew he traveled, but I didn't know they were going to call it. That was one of them situations in which a great player made a move...and they called the call. And I was like, 'Oh, man, there is a God.'
Double Helix wrote:Vucevic used to own Valanciunas. Entirely possible that series goes longer with JVal in instead of Gasol’s lockdown D on Vuce and we end up losing game 1 of this series from going to 6 or 7 versus Orlando and are down 3-0 right now with JV.
Also hard to imagine Embiid not owning JV more and going for 30 consistently.
If Kawhi leaves Masai will unload everyone anyway.
"I definitely knew he traveled, but I didn't know they were going to call it. That was one of them situations in which a great player made a move...and they called the call. And I was like, 'Oh, man, there is a God.'
Gold Dragon wrote:If the trade didn't happen, we would probably be 0-3 in this series.
Embiid was shooting lights out in game 3 from the perimeter. Can you really say that JV would have made a difference there? Also remember that JV is injured. So not only would we not have Gasol but we might not have had JV either if we didn't make the trade.
Delon is not a shooter and would not have helped our shooting woes. He might have helped our defense in game 3 (although much of our defensive problems were with the starters in game 3) but that was not the problem in game 2. Delon's ability to drive into the paint and put up circus shots would not have been that useful when Embiid, Monroe or Boban are sitting in the paint.
Johnny Bball wrote:kingz3290 wrote:dacrusha wrote:Gasol has been dominant this playoff season up until the last game.
Series is still up for grabs but the usual sort are throwing in the towel and pointing fingers.
Looking forward to the “apologize to Marc” thread that will surely be posted in the next week or so.
I highly doubt you'll see a thread with that name. Marc Gasol is washed up. He doesnt Move his feet on defense, let's Embiid progress through his moves in the paint, and all the while, Gasol has his hands up like a prisoner of war not trying to draw a foul. He's not guarding Embiid with the level of physical effort that he needs to.
Offensively, Gasol cant park himself at the 3 point line on every possession. The Raptors were 1 and done on a lot of possessions in Game 3 because no one was remotely around the basket for a rebound. If we're going to win this series, Gasol has to play in the post and not be the 2019 Bargnani.
This first paragraph is why some will never understand how smart Gasol us defensively. He’s not flashy, he’s not super quick, but he gets to his spots and is always in the way. And he held Embiid to 12 on 2 of 7 and 16 on 5 of 18 shooting if you watched the previous two games. Second one he wasn’t feeling great but still played a lot of minutes, so it couldn’t be that bad. Seems that if he can do that the next two, we should be in a good spot.
As for offensive rebounding we have matched them each game I believe.
dacrusha wrote:Gasol has been dominant this playoff season up until the last game.
Series is still up for grabs but the usual sort are throwing in the towel and pointing fingers.
Looking forward to the “apologize to Marc” thread that will surely be posted in the next week or so.
kingz3290 wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:kingz3290 wrote:I highly doubt you'll see a thread with that name. Marc Gasol is washed up. He doesnt Move his feet on defense, let's Embiid progress through his moves in the paint, and all the while, Gasol has his hands up like a prisoner of war not trying to draw a foul. He's not guarding Embiid with the level of physical effort that he needs to.
Offensively, Gasol cant park himself at the 3 point line on every possession. The Raptors were 1 and done on a lot of possessions in Game 3 because no one was remotely around the basket for a rebound. If we're going to win this series, Gasol has to play in the post and not be the 2019 Bargnani.
This first paragraph is why some will never understand how smart Gasol us defensively. He’s not flashy, he’s not super quick, but he gets to his spots and is always in the way. And he held Embiid to 12 on 2 of 7 and 16 on 5 of 18 shooting if you watched the previous two games. Second one he wasn’t feeling great but still played a lot of minutes, so it couldn’t be that bad. Seems that if he can do that the next two, we should be in a good spot.
As for offensive rebounding we have matched them each game I believe.
I've never seen anything like this. It's like half of the fanbase sees that Gasol is washed up and no longer effective, and the others think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. If this was any other big man not named Gasol giving you the same performance in the same amount of minutes, you wouldn't endorse it. There's a built in faith in the Gasol name that some of you have that's unjustifiable, when it's clear that the reason Memphis had as bad of a year as they did was because he declined in all facets of the game significantly.
I cringe when I see him guard Embiid. There's nothing smart about not moving your feet on defense and sticking your arms straight up in the air, hoping that you'll somehow alter his shot when he's a step ahead of you on every possession.
FYI, we've been out rebounded 144 to 111 through 3 games. The parking Gasol out on the perimeter to set a screen and play hot potato until someone shoots a brick while there's no one under the rim to get a rebound doesn't seem to be working. Put Gasol in the post, force him to earn his paycheque making baskets in the paint, and if he's such a great passer, let him make his passes from there to cutters or men on the perimeter.