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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#161 » by TheWave » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:51 pm

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spicy4MVP wrote:so who is going to apologize to Mccaw after tonight?
kid had a steal and 3 blocks and no turnovers on a perfect shooting night, meanwhile his "forum favorite" Davis didn't contribute a single point, steal or a block on defensive end, had 2 turnovers in just 10 minutes and chucked 2 shots and ended with -6. Only Siakam had more turnovers than Davis.
You're all too quick to judge the kid, he's an ace. In Nurse, we trust.

Terence Davis just came off a game where he scored 23 points, had 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Patrick McCaw has had back to back 2 point games.

Am I taking crazy pills? McCaw does so little out there.


I don't know about crazy pills but... My friend said he is actually a tall grey alien in disguise and whichever team has him will win the LB. Sorry I couldn't resist considering every metric including eye test trashes this guy. It's actually sad that we can't force him to have a 10 game stretch where he is balling, and then trade him.
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Post#162 » by SHFT » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:58 pm

Yeah I think TD could take some of his minutes but I'll believe that Nurse and the FO have some sort of reasoning. TD's good and great games are easy and fun to remember but he is more up and down than people are saying (which is totally fair for him).

When you have a team as good and deep as ours, with the development record we do, you dont know throw rookies in the fire if you can afford not to. You just dont. We used to be a team that would give a guy like TD every minute he can handle, but we used to be crap as well.

Cant rush development, I cant stress that enough. Masai has said a few times he wants us to be like a soccer team that churns out academy players AND competes on all fronts. Unless we had no point guards, this is the way it was always going to go. This mpg thing for TD will quickly be forgotten when he is playing 30 mpg and crushing it for us in the near future.

If we had no point guards, id be singing a different tune.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#163 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:42 pm

Is it because she of you guys really don't try to see any of the mistakes Davis makes on defense? I mean... the fact that ge gets as many minutes as he gets says a lot about how talented he is. And he’s going to be good. But I think most of the hate for McCaw is based on this. People just don't look to see the mistakes Davis makes, or Maybe more appropriately stated, the step slow in reading and reacting on defence because he’s a rookie.
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Post#164 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:57 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Is it because she of you guys really don't try to see any of the mistakes Davis makes on defense? I mean... the fact that ge gets as many minutes as he gets says a lot about how talented he is. And he’s going to be good. But I think most of the hate for McCaw is based on this. People just don't look to see the mistakes Davis makes, or Maybe more appropriately stated, the step slow in reading and reacting on defence because he’s a rookie.

Davis is miles better than McCaw defensively. Miles better at all aspects of basketball actually.
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Post#165 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:04 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:Is it because she of you guys really don't try to see any of the mistakes Davis makes on defense? I mean... the fact that ge gets as many minutes as he gets says a lot about how talented he is. And he’s going to be good. But I think most of the hate for McCaw is based on this. People just don't look to see the mistakes Davis makes, or Maybe more appropriately stated, the step slow in reading and reacting on defence because he’s a rookie.

Davis is miles better than McCaw defensively. Miles better at all aspects of basketball actually.


Ok, so it IS because you don’t want to see then. Because no, he’s not. I mean...I’m not hating on your boy here, he’s not terrible or anything, but he just isn’t yet.

I think this is the about turning point I start using the term stan though.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#166 » by will » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 pm

There are no more McCaw apologists.

At this point, it's McCaw denialists.
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Post#167 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:17 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
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Johnny Bball wrote:Is it because she of you guys really don't try to see any of the mistakes Davis makes on defense? I mean... the fact that ge gets as many minutes as he gets says a lot about how talented he is. And he’s going to be good. But I think most of the hate for McCaw is based on this. People just don't look to see the mistakes Davis makes, or Maybe more appropriately stated, the step slow in reading and reacting on defence because he’s a rookie.

Davis is miles better than McCaw defensively. Miles better at all aspects of basketball actually.


Ok, so it IS because you don’t want to see then. Because no, he’s not. I mean...I’m not hating on your boy here, he’s not terrible or anything, but he just isn’t yet.

I think this is the about turning point I start using the term stan though.

Do I need to post their respective advanced defensive stats again that indicate the significant difference between the two? I can.

You can say McCaw is good defensively all you want, but without any evidence of that it means exactly nothing.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#168 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:18 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Davis is miles better than McCaw defensively. Miles better at all aspects of basketball actually.


Ok, so it IS because you don’t want to see then. Because no, he’s not. I mean...I’m not hating on your boy here, he’s not terrible or anything, but he just isn’t yet.

I think this is the about turning point I start using the term stan though.

Do I need to post their respective advanced defensive stats that indicate the significant difference between the two? I can.

You can say McCaw is good defensively all you want, but without any evidence of that it means exactly nothing.


If you think I'm ever hanging my hat on DRPM as relevant, you're sorely mistaken.
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Post#169 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:20 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Ok, so it IS because you don’t want to see then. Because no, he’s not. I mean...I’m not hating on your boy here, he’s not terrible or anything, but he just isn’t yet.

I think this is the about turning point I start using the term stan though.

Do I need to post their respective advanced defensive stats that indicate the significant difference between the two? I can.

You can say McCaw is good defensively all you want, but without any evidence of that it means exactly nothing.


If you think I'm ever hanging my hat on DRPM as relevant, you're sorely mistaken.

So instead of looking at the advanced defensive statistics that reveal this difference, you've chosen to look at nothing. Nothing is all that McCaw denialists have at this point, though, so I don't blame you. The guy is literally one of the worst players in the entire league.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#170 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:23 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Do I need to post their respective advanced defensive stats that indicate the significant difference between the two? I can.

You can say McCaw is good defensively all you want, but without any evidence of that it means exactly nothing.


If you think I'm ever hanging my hat on DRPM as relevant, you're sorely mistaken.

So instead of looking at the advanced defensive statistics that reveal this difference, you've chosen to look at nothing. Nothing is all that McCaw denialists have at this point, though, so I don't blame you. The guy is literally one of the worst players in the entire league.


Again, you seem think I'm trying to say McCaw is a great player, which isn't the case, using no context, all while you're stanning for Davis. RPM says so though right and it's never wrong right?
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Post#171 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:47 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
If you think I'm ever hanging my hat on DRPM as relevant, you're sorely mistaken.

So instead of looking at the advanced defensive statistics that reveal this difference, you've chosen to look at nothing. Nothing is all that McCaw denialists have at this point, though, so I don't blame you. The guy is literally one of the worst players in the entire league.


Again, you seem think I'm trying to say McCaw is a great player, which isn't the case, using no context, all while you're stanning for Davis. RPM says so though right and it's never wrong right?

I'd stan for a pylon if that meant McCaw would stop playing minutes for the Toronto Raptors, but yes, it helps that Davis is the best rookie the Raptors have had in over a decade.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#172 » by bballsparkin » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:27 pm

Alfred wrote:Terence Davis just came off a game where he scored 23 points, had 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Patrick McCaw has had back to back 2 point games.

Am I taking crazy pills? McCaw does so little out there.


Davis is awesome. We got a real steal in him and I'm super psyched for his game. Last night he was ass though. He looked like a rook. I think NN is bring him along slowly and wants to ensure he plays fundamentally the right way. Plus avoid hitting that rookie wall is a good idea so that he is fresh for the playoffs. We also don't know what will go down at the trade deadline. His minutes could increase significantly soon. Although I'm pretty reluctant to move Norm the way he's been playing lately.
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Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#173 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:29 pm

McCaw is playing very solid right now. Very good defender. He does a lot of little things that don't show up in stats.
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Post#174 » by HiJiNX » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 pm

McCaw makes few mistakes in our defensive scheme even though he gets blown by quite easily.

TD makes lots of mistakes on both ends but produces positive impact despite that.
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Post#175 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:59 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:McCaw is playing very solid right now. Very good defender. He does a lot of little things that don't show up in stats.


Shouldn't they show up in results? Why is he the worst at -2.6 net rating on the team? At some point these little things should translate to the team doing better with him on the floor.
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Post#176 » by LLJ » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Perhaps Nurse plays McCaw so much in order to prepare this team for struggles later on. After all, if he doesn't play McCaw, it would be too easy, you know, and they won't be as adequately prepared later on or something...

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Post#177 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:28 pm

McCaw is making good plays in this Hawks game right now. Some people don't know enough about basketball to see it
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Post#178 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:43 pm

Sorry, where is his apology?
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Post#179 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:49 pm

MCCAW GOT A THREAD???? where is norm's thread lmao
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Post#180 » by Brinbe » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:15 pm

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