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Re: So Giannis 2021 is looking good right now 

Post#161 » by Psubs » Fri Jul 3, 2020 2:07 pm

jimmy keys wrote:Yeah I like Gobert, but it's not about stretching the floor as much as it's his inability to guard the perimeter. A great coach knows how to get him away from the basket.


Right on cue!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bendowsett/2020/06/29/rudy-goberts-improved-perimeter-defense-is-an-major-tool-for-the-utah-jazz/#3dee2ff075c5

The NBA’s stingiest defenders against isolation possessions, per that same tracking data (minimum 75 possessions defended, a sample of 130 players):

1. Rudy Gobert: 0.688 points per chance allowed

2. Jerami Grant: 0.702 points per chance

3. Jrue Holiday: 0.709 points per chance

For those who don’t spend their days studying NBA scoring numbers: That’s really low.


There are also nice clips to see in there.
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Re: So Giannis 2021 is looking good right now 

Post#162 » by jimmy keys » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:35 pm

Psubs wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:Yeah I like Gobert, but it's not about stretching the floor as much as it's his inability to guard the perimeter. A great coach knows how to get him away from the basket.


Right on cue!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bendowsett/2020/06/29/rudy-goberts-improved-perimeter-defense-is-an-major-tool-for-the-utah-jazz/#3dee2ff075c5

The NBA’s stingiest defenders against isolation possessions, per that same tracking data (minimum 75 possessions defended, a sample of 130 players):

1. Rudy Gobert: 0.688 points per chance allowed

2. Jerami Grant: 0.702 points per chance

3. Jrue Holiday: 0.709 points per chance

For those who don’t spend their days studying NBA scoring numbers: That’s really low.


There are also nice clips to see in there.


Ok fair enough, but entering his 30s on a max he's unlikely to improve from there. Lots to like about his game.
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Re: So Giannis 2021 is looking good right now 

Post#163 » by raptorstime » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:16 pm

More africans in the US than Cananda
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Re: So Giannis 2021 is looking good right now 

Post#164 » by Psubs » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:30 pm

raptorstime wrote:More africans in the US than Cananda


Maybe not 1st generation ones.
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Re: So Giannis 2021 is looking good right now 

Post#165 » by Psubs » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:33 pm

jimmy keys wrote:
Psubs wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:Yeah I like Gobert, but it's not about stretching the floor as much as it's his inability to guard the perimeter. A great coach knows how to get him away from the basket.


Right on cue!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bendowsett/2020/06/29/rudy-goberts-improved-perimeter-defense-is-an-major-tool-for-the-utah-jazz/#3dee2ff075c5

The NBA’s stingiest defenders against isolation possessions, per that same tracking data (minimum 75 possessions defended, a sample of 130 players):

1. Rudy Gobert: 0.688 points per chance allowed

2. Jerami Grant: 0.702 points per chance

3. Jrue Holiday: 0.709 points per chance

For those who don’t spend their days studying NBA scoring numbers: That’s really low.


There are also nice clips to see in there.


Ok fair enough, but entering his 30s on a max he's unlikely to improve from there. Lots to like about his game.


Possibly, but Marc Gasol didn't shoot 3's regulary until his age 32 season.
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Post#166 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:46 pm

raptorstime wrote:More africans in the US than Cananda

To be fair, they started a few hundred years before us.
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Post#167 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:40 pm

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Raps in 4 wrote:Bucks fans keep telling themselves "Giannis isn't African, he doesn't care about Africa".

Did Greece care about him when he was coming up or trying to get a passport? I thought they didn’t recognize him as a citizen.


That's a completely made up fake nonsense by US sports media.

Under Greek law, you don't get Greek citizenship until you turn 18, if you were not born in the country. Unless they grant a special exception for being "an exceptionally talented person in a specific field that can improve Greece as a nation". Giannis, prior to being age 18, was not even in Greece's first level league, so no way was that exception being granted then. Even if your parents are both Greek citizens, if you are born outside of Greece, you probably won't get citizenship until you turn 18.

Until then, you can be a legal resident, as Giannis was. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been allowed to attend public school. If he wasn't considered a legal resident. Giannis and all of his brothers were allowed to attend public schools.

Giannis was treated 100% correctly and fairly, under Greece's legal system. He was born in the country, and despite that his parents were not citizens, he was granted full legal residence, and could attend public schools and do everything any other minor could in Greece. Then as soon as he turned age 18, he was given citizenship. His father wasn't born in Greece and had no Greek heritage, and yet was allowed to legally work in the country for as long as he wanted to.

The claim that he was treated unfairly and badly by the Greek government, and that he only got citizenship because the NBA drafted him is completely absurd and totally ridiculous. US sports media that has made those claims is totally full of BS and nonsense. It's also quite ironic, considering that he likely would have been treated far worse in the USA, under the same circumstances.

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