Malachi Flynn

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Me before the draft:



Yeah I'm semi-bragging.

I did not really start looking a prospects until very late this year and focused on bigs and had Tillman as my target.

I heard this was a guard heavy draft and started looking at the guards expected near the end of the draft and Malachi just popped as someone who stood out dramatically from the rest of the group and he was easily my #2 target and prompted this post.

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I never saw video of Malachi Flynn or Tyler Bey until today. Those two look like they would fit and be able to contribute to this Raptor team immediately. Very impressive packages for end of the 1st round type players.

prospects I like at #29 so far: Tillman, Flynn, Bey

lol post from October. There was a couple of us talking about him in the spring. Mid-season he was a mid-2nd rounder but they kept winning and his stock kept going up.

[Gold Dragon]

That said, he also had 5 turnovers last night to his to his 3 assists.

I think most of these turnovers were not of the passing variety but things like offensive fouls, trying to save a ball from going out of bounds, etc. His passes were largely sharp good decisions.

[anotherhomer]

That said, he also had 5 turnovers last night to his to his 3 assists.

I think most of these turnovers were not of the passing variety but things like offensive fouls, trying to save a ball from going out of bounds, etc. His passes were largely sharp good decisions.

another was a questionable offensive foul (rookie calls)

[Danny1616]

Boston took Pritchard instead of Flynn, how do they compare so far?

Boston hasn't played yet, but they play tonight.

[nabbs]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

[Duffman100]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

Imagine him with JV.

[MixxSRC]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

We haven't had a good roller for years now.

[brownbobcat]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

We haven't had a good roller for years now.

Amir was probably one of the last ones I can remember.

[StopitLeo]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

The fact he can throw a perfect alleyoop to OG from the hash mark is proof enough for me. The last time we saw that was Lowry and DeRozan running the same play.

It sort of feels like we upgraded Davis to the player we were hoping he might be when we gave him time at the point last year. Basically trading off some athleticism for better point guard skills, defense, and overall basketball IQ and feel for the game.

Seems like Flynn has a better offensive package than Fred already - floaters, mid-range pull ups, etc. I'm looking forward to seeing how well he finishes at the rim this year because Fred, as we know, is pretty bad.

None of this is to suggest we should be trading Fred or something. FVV and Flynn have the makings of a pretty solid PG pair moving forward.

[Young_Buc]

I believe that aside from Lowry and Pascal, Fred is our next big "name" player and probably has substantial value around the league. If midway through the season he and norm (and other filler) can be flipped for say Turner and Oladipo it would be a great way of extracting value.

[Agimat]

I guess NCAA Tournament cancellation was a blessing in disguise. Flynn's stock likely would've risen up playing in the tournament.

[nabbs]

Flynn in the 2 games

20 MIN, 13 PPG, 3.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 1.5 REB, 52% FG, 43% 3PT, +24

He is a way better passer than he has shown. We can't get legit guys to roll after setting good screens. He'd be setting guys up like crazy

The fact he can throw a perfect alleyoop to OG from the hash mark is proof enough for me. The last time we saw that was Lowry and DeRozan running the same play.

It sort of feels like we upgraded Davis to the player we were hoping he might be when we gave him time at the point last year. Basically trading off some athleticism for better point guard skills, defense, and overall basketball IQ and feel for the game.

Seems like Flynn has a better offensive package than Fred already - floaters, mid-range pull ups, etc. I'm looking forward to seeing how well he finishes at the rim this year because Fred, as we know, is pretty bad.

None of this is to suggest we should be trading Fred or something. FVV and Flynn have the makings of a pretty solid PG pair moving forward.

Before Flynn, we were hoping TD turns in to some primary creating point guard when in reality, he is kind of like Fred. Combo guards but they are both more 2s than 1s. TD and Fred are perfectly suited to be 2s in this league that act as secondary creators. Malachi is by all accounts a primary creator, like Kyle.

Primary Creators:

Kyle/Flynn/Pascal

Secondary Creators:

Fred, TD, Bembry

Everyone else on the team can make plays off secondary action if they are run off their primary actions (OG, Watson, Matt Thomas, Norm)

[StopitLeo]

Before Flynn, we were hoping TD turns in to some primary creating point guard when in reality, he is kind of like Fred. Combo guards but they are both more 2s than 1s. TD and Fred are perfectly suited to be 2s in this league that act as secondary creators. Malachi is by all accounts a primary creator, like Kyle.

Primary Creators:

Kyle/Flynn/Pascal

Secondary Creators:

Fred, TD, Bembry

Everyone else on the team can make plays off secondary action if they are run off their primary actions (OG, Watson, Matt Thomas, Norm)

I like how you categorized them. That's actually a to look at offensive positions now that they are more fluid. I wouldn't include Bembry though, because he can't create for himself with his lack of shooting.

This categorization actually highlight a weakness of the roster that was also a problem last year. We only have one creator with size in Pascal.

[nabbs]

Before Flynn, we were hoping TD turns in to some primary creating point guard when in reality, he is kind of like Fred. Combo guards but they are both more 2s than 1s. TD and Fred are perfectly suited to be 2s in this league that act as secondary creators. Malachi is by all accounts a primary creator, like Kyle.

Primary Creators:

Kyle/Flynn/Pascal

Secondary Creators:

Fred, TD, Bembry

Everyone else on the team can make plays off secondary action if they are run off their primary actions (OG, Watson, Matt Thomas, Norm)

I like how you categorized them. That's actually a to look at offensive positions now that they are more fluid. I wouldn't include Bembry though, because he can't create for himself with his lack of shooting.

This categorization actually highlight a weakness of the roster that was also a problem last year. We only have one creator with size in Pascal.

Bembry can handle and run a PnR. It's why I put him in the secondary creator too. He isn't amazing or anything but adequate enough to have Kyle, Fred, Flynn, TD and others go off ball.

See I think lack of size becomes a problem when you aren't a pull up threat. It hasn't bothered Kyle all that much. Fred is fine with space but I don't think he is a natural pull up PnR threat. Malachi Flynn has demonstrated that he indeed is. That threat will make defenders jump up on him and that will open up the floor for him, despite the elite size

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Before Flynn, we were hoping TD turns in to some primary creating point guard when in reality, he is kind of like Fred. Combo guards but they are both more 2s than 1s. TD and Fred are perfectly suited to be 2s in this league that act as secondary creators. Malachi is by all accounts a primary creator, like Kyle.

Primary Creators:

Kyle/Flynn/Pascal

Secondary Creators:

Fred, TD, Bembry

Everyone else on the team can make plays off secondary action if they are run off their primary actions (OG, Watson, Matt Thomas, Norm)

I like how you categorized them. That's actually a to look at offensive positions now that they are more fluid. I wouldn't include Bembry though, because he can't create for himself with his lack of shooting.

This categorization actually highlight a weakness of the roster that was also a problem last year. We only have one creator with size in Pascal.

Bembry can handle and run a PnR. It's why I put him in the secondary creator too. He isn't amazing or anything but adequate enough to have Kyle, Fred, Flynn, TD and others go off ball.

See I think lack of size becomes a problem when you aren't a pull up threat. It hasn't bothered Kyle all that much. Fred is fine with space but I don't think he is a natural pull up PnR threat. Malachi Flynn has demonstrated that he indeed is. That threat will make defenders jump up on him and that will open up the floor for him, despite the elite size

Ya, Bembry is also better than Powell at initiating offense for others.

[Danny1616]

Sometimes you can just see when a player has "it" and Flynn has "it."

[Danny1616]

I guess NCAA Tournament cancellation was a blessing in disguise. Flynn's stock likely would've risen up playing in the tournament.

Oh 100%.

San Diego State was 35-2 and would have likely made it at least to the sweet 16 or final 8. If he played really well and they went deep in the tournament he likely becomes a top 10-15 pick.

[Danny1616]

By far most skilled and complete player Ujiri drafted so far in Toronto. Siakam, Anounoby, Powell are nowhere close to him, Siakam has like one spin move, Anounoby cant even run proper let alone play basketball, and Norman has one good game every 20 games.

Lol, Flynn looks great but don't forget Norm averaged 16ppg on 50% shooting and 40% from 3 in just 28 minutes a night. Norm was fantastic and consistent for us last season and should have been in the running for 6th man of the year.

[ItsDanger]

When he establishes that floater, it will open up easy buckets for our bigs. Finally, a PG with a floater in his game.

[NBA Sheady]

If I didn’t know any better and somebody told me we took him top 5 I would 100% believe it.

This is exactly how I feel about this kid. I'm going to go and watch some of the top picks over the next couple of days.