Dalano Banton Discussion / Appreciation

[Indeed]

Remember when people complained we picked Dalano when Cooper and Boston were on the board

I don't think people complained, just that Cooper was ranked high in most draft board. Back then, I still prefer Banton, since Cooper is redundant to Flynn.

I think people were high on Charles Bassey and Jericho Sims for addressing our C issue, but I don't believe they can make an impact yet.

[JN]

Nah, you can't. You need a certain talent-level and mindset. It seems like MCW was never the same after that surgery.

Flynn showed he had no fear in the 4th quarter. He showed that he could shoot the 3 at a high-clip and penetrate.
I appreciate Banton's energy and pace , but the offense stalled last night once he came in the first half. He was -1(+/-) at halftime.
Flynn was not a lottery pick like MCW.

Not seeing the talent level of Flynn. As a shooter, you need to get enough space to shoot, but apparently he couldn't due to his lower release point and lack of strength to get to his spot.

I mean Flynn can shoot the 3s at a high rate, but I don't see the penetrate, and instead Button is better at getting to the rim.

You did watch Malachi the last 2 months of last season, right? You do recall some of his 4th Q performances, right?

Last season, there were so many conversations about "tanking" and "SuggsForLife" that posters might not have been paying any attention to actual games. (which would explain why so many have been surprised by OG's "improvements" as well)
Banton is all energy, pace and length which fits us great in short spurts right now, but Malachi is all skills with that FVV mindset.
At the same age, Malachi is way ahead of FVV.

In his age 23 season, FVV averaged 20 minutes a game, and played effectively on a team that went 59-23.

In his age 23 season, Malachi Flynn has averaged 2 minutes a game for a team that will be nowhere near 59-23.

[junot111]

Right now, my biggest knock on him is that he didnt know how to pronounce Queens Quay or Roncesvalles.

Right!? Like WTF?!

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I have no idea what Roncesvalles is either, and Queens Quay's spelling/pronunciation just makes no sense, you wouldn't know it unless you frequent DT...

[ash_k]

Not seeing the talent level of Flynn. As a shooter, you need to get enough space to shoot, but apparently he couldn't due to his lower release point and lack of strength to get to his spot.

I mean Flynn can shoot the 3s at a high rate, but I don't see the penetrate, and instead Button is better at getting to the rim.

You did watch Malachi the last 2 months of last season, right? You do recall some of his 4th Q performances, right?

Last season, there were so many conversations about "tanking" and "SuggsForLife" that posters might not have been paying any attention to actual games. (which would explain why so many have been surprised by OG's "improvements" as well)
Banton is all energy, pace and length which fits us great in short spurts right now, but Malachi is all skills with that FVV mindset.
At the same age, Malachi is way ahead of FVV.

In his age 23 season, FVV averaged 20 minutes a game, and played effectively on a team that went 59-23.

In his age 23 season, Malachi Flynn has averaged 2 minutes a game for a team that will be nowhere near 59-23.

'98 - As a rookie 22 years old 2020-2021 ==> Rookie of the month of April
'94 - As a rookie 22 years old 2016-2017 ==> 7.9 minutes per game. 2.9 points

[lolwut]

You did watch Malachi the last 2 months of last season, right? You do recall some of his 4th Q performances, right?

Last season, there were so many conversations about "tanking" and "SuggsForLife" that posters might not have been paying any attention to actual games. (which would explain why so many have been surprised by OG's "improvements" as well)
Banton is all energy, pace and length which fits us great in short spurts right now, but Malachi is all skills with that FVV mindset.
At the same age, Malachi is way ahead of FVV.

In his age 23 season, FVV averaged 20 minutes a game, and played effectively on a team that went 59-23.

In his age 23 season, Malachi Flynn has averaged 2 minutes a game for a team that will be nowhere near 59-23.

'98 - As a rookie 22 years old 2020-2021 ==> Rookie of the month of April
'94 - As a rookie 22 years old 2016-2017 ==> 7.9 minutes per game. 2.9 points

But Flynn is not 22 anymore, so why compare his 22 year old numbers to FVV's 22 year old numbers? He's already 23 today.

This is some serious mental gymnastics. It's like saying I was richer than Bill Gates when we were both 5 years old. Why does that even matter?

[ash_k]

In his age 23 season, FVV averaged 20 minutes a game, and played effectively on a team that went 59-23.

In his age 23 season, Malachi Flynn has averaged 2 minutes a game for a team that will be nowhere near 59-23.

'98 - As a rookie 22 years old 2020-2021 ==> Rookie of the month of April
'94 - As a rookie 22 years old 2016-2017 ==> 7.9 minutes per game. 2.9 points

But Flynn is not 22 anymore, so why compare his 22 year old numbers to FVV's 22 year old numbers? He's already 23 today.

This is some serious mental gymnastics.

We are 4 games into 2021/2022 not 40 games!
Flynn was a first round selection and FVV was undrafted for a reason:
We are all happy that FVV has become a total success story (due to the patience of our franchise in part).
Comparing their rookie season, it is not even close : It is fact that Flynn (rookie of the month) is way ahead of FVV at the same stage.

[lolwut]

'98 - As a rookie 22 years old 2020-2021 ==> Rookie of the month of April
'94 - As a rookie 22 years old 2016-2017 ==> 7.9 minutes per game. 2.9 points

But Flynn is not 22 anymore, so why compare his 22 year old numbers to FVV's 22 year old numbers? He's already 23 today.

This is some serious mental gymnastics.

We are 4 games into 2021/2022 not 40 games!
Flynn was a first round selection and FVV was undrafted for a reason:
We are all happy that FVV has become a total success story (due to the patience of our franchise in part).
Comparing their rookie season, it is not even close : It is fact that Flynn (rookie of the month) is way ahead of FVV at the same stage.

WAS way ahead, not IS. We don't know whether he's still way ahead or not because, as you said, we're only just starting his second season. His benchmark, starting from this moment, is second year FVV.

[ash_k]

But Flynn is not 22 anymore, so why compare his 22 year old numbers to FVV's 22 year old numbers? He's already 23 today.

This is some serious mental gymnastics.

We are 4 games into 2021/2022 not 40 games!
Flynn was a first round selection and FVV was undrafted for a reason:
We are all happy that FVV has become a total success story (due to the patience of our franchise in part).
Comparing their rookie season, it is not even close : It is fact that Flynn (rookie of the month) is way ahead of FVV at the same stage.

WAS way ahead, not IS. We don't know whether he's still way ahead or not because, as you said, we're only just starting his second season. His benchmark, starting from this moment, is second year FVV.

Are you saying that 4-games into his second season(2017–18), FVV was ahead of the last rookie having won Rookie of the month in the Eastern Conference?! (while posters were still arguing Delon or FVV , cmon now!)
First round pick &Rookie of the month Flynn is way of ahead of FVV at the same stage. Factual! You can check back around GAME40 if you want.

[Madhouse]

Not sure how much it actually means but Banton is looking good here

Read on Twitter

[Yeezus_]

Remember when people complained we picked Dalano when Cooper and Boston were on the board

I don't think people complained, just that Cooper was ranked high in most draft board. Back then, I still prefer Banton, since Cooper is redundant to Flynn.

I think people were high on Charles Bassey and Jericho Sims for addressing our C issue, but I don't believe they can make an impact yet.

The casual fans draft boards? Or those draft boards of analysts that don't really know the game to the level of the Raptors scouts and have the same information/data? No one's draft boards matter except the Raptors.

[Yeezus_]

Not sure how much it actually means but Banton is looking good here

Read on Twitter

Barnes will be right up there with Mobley once those defensive stats start piling up.

[Madhouse]

Not sure how much it actually means but Banton is looking good here

Read on Twitter

Barnes will be right up there with Mobley once those defensive stats start piling up.

his assists, steals and blocks will probably go up, I'm impressed about Banton though, I thought he would be 905 material.

[ForeverTFC]

Right now, my biggest knock on him is that he didnt know how to pronounce Queens Quay or Roncesvalles.

Right!? Like WTF?!

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I have no idea what Roncesvalles is either, and Queens Quay's spelling/pronunciation just makes no sense, you wouldn't know it unless you frequent DT...

I couldn't pronounce Queens Quay properly until I was 22...

[ForeverTFC]

Not sure how much it actually means but Banton is looking good here

Read on Twitter

Barnes will be right up there with Mobley once those defensive stats start piling up.

his assists, steals and blocks will probably go up, I'm impressed about Banton though, I thought he would be 905 material.

I think it's the turnovers that's driving his TPA down, no? I expect those will come down when Siakam comes back.

[Dalek]

Not sure how much it actually means but Banton is looking good here

Read on Twitter

Barnes will be right up there with Mobley once those defensive stats start piling up.

his assists, steals and blocks will probably go up, I'm impressed about Banton though, I thought he would be 905 material.

I do like Banton's skill set because the opencourt speed and the high-low passing is special at his size. The two three pointers were also shocking to me. He looked confident rising up which is crazy because he maybe hit one all of SL and preseason.

That said, like any new weird player, the NBA always take a bit of time to adjust. Banton's a fairly big unknown to scouting reports so when he comes in it creates a bit of confusion because there just aren't 6'9 ballhandlers / defenders as quick as him.

I think you will see guys picking him up earlier and pressuring him. He has a good handle and awareness, but he hasn't had defenses key in on him. He seems like a worker and at least at home he really shines.

[Madhouse]

Barnes will be right up there with Mobley once those defensive stats start piling up.

his assists, steals and blocks will probably go up, I'm impressed about Banton though, I thought he would be 905 material.

I think it's the turnovers that's driving his TPA down, no? I expect those will come down when Siakam comes back.

turnover/assists ratio and steals and blocks. I'm surprised his TPA was unchanged before and after the last game though.

[Bruin]

What a steal this kid is. Playing significant minutes in crunch time in his 6th game as a pro

All for his hometown team. Kids really living the dream

[OakleyDokely]

All my peoples from Rexdale you know we gona just ride

[Madhouse]

Lotto talent

[Bruin]

Thank you coach Fred Hoiberg