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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#161 » by Scott Hall » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:21 am

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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#162 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:22 am

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raptor jesus wrote:Alvin's still rough on the mic, but imo he's bringing way more substance and attention to detail about what's happening on the court than Leo and Jack i.e. pointing out defensive breakdowns, mismatches, etc. I also like that he's willing to criticize the team and players, which is a welcome contrast to Devlin constantly making excuses.


i'll give Alvin Williams the expectations of the Raptors - keep developing


He is not a natural and no amount of time is likely to change this...


kinda like FVV as an elite playmaker?
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#163 » by Chandan » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:22 am

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it says 3 for 6

I keep refreshing my page and this is all I see
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ya its messed up on their site and its causing yahoo to also screw up lol


yep it was corrected before but after i refrshed the site it changed to yours. If you go to playbyplay it seems the data reverted back to when it was 2:13 left in the game.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#164 » by Sidthekid87 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:22 am

Goddamn wish we could've traded the beyblade to gstate for Poole in the offseason. **** me man. Management been cheeks the last 2 years.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#165 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:22 am

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RaptorPride wrote:I keep refreshing my page and this is all I see
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ya its messed up on their site and its causing yahoo to also screw up lol


yep it was corrected before but after i refrshed the site it changed to yours. If you go to playbyplay it seems the data reverted back to when it was 2:13 left in the game.


yup. exactly this.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#166 » by will » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:23 am

Sidthekid87 wrote:Goddamn wish we could've traded the beyblade to gstate for Poole in the offseason. **** me man. Management been cheeks the last 2 years.


Easy there.

Settle down.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#167 » by Truthrising » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:23 am

I've said this long time ago. FVV and Pascal are the problem of the team. You're not going anywhere you're selfish, the only brightspot of the team this season is Scottie Barnes and OG.

I'm hoping we ship them both for a package during the season.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#168 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:23 am

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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#169 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:24 am

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He just doesn't make his teammates better and neither does pascal... too much iso hero ball... problem is Trent also only looks for his... not certain what nick can do other than insist they move the ball around more...


Team really needs a 33 year old Marc Gasol.


No...

More like prime time vc who can take the game over by himself....no one has come close since Kawhi...


Lol sure... I was trying to be realistic but lets just add a prime MJ then lol.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

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Post#171 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:25 am

if only we dealt siakam to gsw for wiggins and poole. sigh
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#172 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:25 am

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but still, the turnovers. and FVV isn't a guy who is an elite playmaker and threads the needle on passes - which will lead to some TOs. they are just careless TOs all in all. 4TOs per game is pretty bad.


Fred's turnovers don't come from passes, they come from being overly selfish and then crying to the referee for not bailing his midget ass out.

We just gotta move him to the 2 and play Scottie at point. And please tell me you're taller than Fred.


Yes I am lol. And I'm speaking in basketball terms... I understand he's still average height in the real world lol.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#173 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:26 am

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Bankai wrote:Van Vleet is not a true PG or a floor general. He is an undersized capable 3 + D SG. That is all.

Just move him to the two and play Barnes at the 1.


Senior is more effective playing off the ball.

With Barnes height and playmaking ability...there are just more options available.


Barnes has passing vision that no on else on the team has, and then his height helps with that more. Not sure he has the handle to really play point, but we may as well try it. See if he can be Magic Johnson.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#174 » by Kingsway_fan » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:26 am

Despite the loss Scottie Barnes had: 19 points 7 rebounds 3 assists 4 Blocks 2 Steals 50% FG 50% From 3 (3 threes)
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#175 » by RaptorPride » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:27 am

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Fred's turnovers don't come from passes, they come from being overly selfish and then crying to the referee for not bailing his midget ass out.

We just gotta move him to the 2 and play Scottie at point. And please tell me you're taller than Fred.


Yes I am lol. And I'm speaking in basketball terms... I understand he's still average height in the real world lol.

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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#176 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:27 am

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I agree with Alvinnon this. Not a fan of doing that. Just a matter of time he makes it on Shaqtin by either missing the layup or getting blocked. No need to be that cocky lol.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#178 » by will » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:28 am

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RaptorPride wrote:Just move him to the two and play Barnes at the 1.


Senior is more effective playing off the ball.

With Barnes height and playmaking ability...there are just more options available.


Barnes has passing vision that no on else on the team has, and then his height helps with that more. Not sure he has the handle to really play point, but we may as well try it. See if he can be Magic Johnson.


Not saying he has to dribble around like Skip to my Lou, but put the ball in his hands and allow him to make plays and move the ball.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#179 » by RaptorPride » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:28 am

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RaptorPride wrote:Just move him to the two and play Barnes at the 1.


Senior is more effective playing off the ball.

With Barnes height and playmaking ability...there are just more options available.


Barnes has passing vision that no on else on the team has, and then his height helps with that more. Not sure he has the handle to really play point, but we may as well try it. See if he can be Magic Johnson.

Yea it's not like we are tryna win a ring this year. We can just let him handle the ball and make mistakes. Remember DeMar dribbling it off his foot in the clutch and look at his handles now its night and day.
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Re: PG: Leagues most selfish team loses again 

Post#180 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:28 am

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I agree with Alvinnon this. Not a fan of doing that. Just a matter of time he makes it on Shaqtin by either missing the layup or getting blocked. No need to be that cocky lol.


he almost lost the ball when he looked back at Adams I think.
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