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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#161 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:50 pm

Evan Massey is basically a Kevin Rashidi. Zero credibility.

With that being said... I like Turner and I like Duarte, if we can get those two for OG, I'd do it.

Duarte improves our bench significantly. Not only is he a sharpshooter, he's also a very good playmaker. Plus, he's Canadian so that's a bonus.

Turner is a natural fit on this team and addresses our frontcourt needs. Been vouching for him for ages. Feel like the Raptors development staff can maximize his potential and turn him into a much better player. He's still pretty young.

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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#162 » by tdotrep2 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:52 pm

For og.... no less than turnes duarte and this years unprotected. Even then if the pick aint all thst we lose
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#163 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:52 pm

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Tha Cynic wrote:OG for Turner is a brutal trade for the Raptors.

Teams are using the Raptors as leverage since they're known as a great organization that targets players well.

This is a laugh and hang up the phone type of proposal.

I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.


Duarte + Turner + Turner resigning and yeah, this is a good trade. Otherwise, there's nothing on Indiana that I want. A 1st round will most likely be protected.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#164 » by Madhouse » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:55 pm

Zeno wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:OG for Turner is a brutal trade for the Raptors.

Teams are using the Raptors as leverage since they're known as a great organization that targets players well.

This is a laugh and hang up the phone type of proposal.

I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.


Turner, Duarte and IND 1st unprotected would be a no brainer for Toronto. But I would be shocked if Indiana makes such an offer.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#165 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:56 pm

Some of you actually ok with moving OG for myles Turner lol please stop
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#166 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:57 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:Some of you actually ok with moving OG for myles Turner lol please stop


I don't think I've seen any Raptor fan here willing to trade OG for Turner straight up.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#167 » by Madhouse » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:57 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:Some of you actually ok with moving OG for myles Turner lol please stop


Nobody is ok with it.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#168 » by Zeno » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:01 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:OG for Turner is a brutal trade for the Raptors.

Teams are using the Raptors as leverage since they're known as a great organization that targets players well.

This is a laugh and hang up the phone type of proposal.

I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.


Turner, Duarte and IND 1st unprotected would be a no brainer for Toronto. But I would be shocked if Indiana makes such an offer.

If that is a no brainer than how much less than that would make it a tough call? To me I'd be about 50/50 on Turner, Duarte and a top 10 protected 1st. But trading OG no matter what comes back would hurt my brain a little just because I wouldn't want to.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#169 » by aroc23 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:02 pm

I love OG, but come on people! Imagine rolling with this team (trading OG and Malachi for Turner and Duarte):

Starters
FVV
GTJ
Scottie
Pascal
Turner

Bench
Banton
Duarte / Svi
Yuta / Champangie
Precious / Boucher
Birch

That trade addresses the 2 biggest issues (the centre spot and scoring off the bench), and it does it by adding a 24 year old locked up long term and a 25 year old who is looking to be the main man in the middle, which he would be here.

I would try and flip Boucher or Birch (preferably Boucher) for a back PG or wing who can facilitate, and the roster would be perfectly balanced. Come playoff time you only need 8-9 guys anyway, which you have with the starters + Precious / Duarte / Birch.

Financially it helps because 1) OG will likely get paid more than Turner long term; and 2) you have a bench scorer (Duarte) locked up until 2025 at $4 million a year! We have to face facts: we cannot afford all 5 current starters plus a competent bench without getting some cheap pieces like Duarte.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#170 » by Jeremy Lin 7 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:03 pm

Trading anyone of Fred/Siakam/OG/Barnes/GTJ for Turner is a lateral move. I can't see Masai trading anyone of them unless it's for a proven star.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#171 » by tecumseh18 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:06 pm

Zeno wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:OG for Turner is a brutal trade for the Raptors.

Teams are using the Raptors as leverage since they're known as a great organization that targets players well.

This is a laugh and hang up the phone type of proposal.

I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.



Yeah, with our depth and shooting problems, Duarte would have to be part of the deal. And then I'd think about it. Duarte would be the flamethrower off of the bench that this team desperately needs. Meanwhile, the Pacers for years have desperately needed a 3/4 who can defend 1 to 5.

But the fact that we're hearing about it means it didn't happen. As many have pointed out above, this is just Pritchard doing a Morey-esque setting of the bar.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#172 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:06 pm

Masai's probably looking at under the radar types like Naz Reid, Herbert Jones, Okongwu, Garuba etc. Especially if they lose Boucher in the offseason or trade him at the deadline. They will need cheap replacements.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#173 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:07 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:OG for Turner is a brutal trade for the Raptors.

Teams are using the Raptors as leverage since they're known as a great organization that targets players well.

This is a laugh and hang up the phone type of proposal.

I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.


Turner, Duarte and IND 1st unprotected would be a no brainer for Toronto. But I would be shocked if Indiana makes such an offer.


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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#174 » by tdotrep2 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:08 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Masai's probably looking at under the radar types like Naz Reid, Herbert Jones, Okongwu, Garuba etc. Especially if they lose Boucher in the offseason or trade him at the deadline. They will need cheap replacements.

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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#175 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:09 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Masai's probably looking at under the radar types like Naz Reid, Herbert Jones, Okongwu, Garuba etc. Especially if they lose Boucher in the offseason or trade him at the deadline. They will need cheap replacements.

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Maybe, but he's not going to be cheap after this season.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#176 » by Jadoogar » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:11 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Zeno wrote:I agree but to be fair it doesn't say what else might be in the trade. At minimum Turner plus Indy's 1st for OG though I probably still say no. But if we got Duarte too, I'd probably have to do it. but yes, Turner for OG straight up is garbage.


Turner, Duarte and IND 1st unprotected would be a no brainer for Toronto. But I would be shocked if Indiana makes such an offer.


No first coming to Toronto - I would send protected first back.


So OG + protected FRP for Turner and Duarte?
I love OG but that would sort of address our 2 biggest weaknesses.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#177 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:12 pm

aroc23 wrote:I love OG, but come on people! Imagine rolling with this team (trading OG and Malachi for Turner and Duarte):

Starters
FVV
GTJ
Scottie
Pascal
Turner

Bench
Banton
Duarte / Svi
Yuta / Champangie
Precious / Boucher
Birch

That trade addresses the 2 biggest issues (the centre spot and scoring off the bench), and it does it by adding a 24 year old locked up long term and a 25 year old who is looking to be the main man in the middle, which he would be here.

I would try and flip Boucher or Birch (preferably Boucher) for a back PG or wing who can facilitate, and the roster would be perfectly balanced. Come playoff time you only need 8-9 guys anyway, which you have with the starters + Precious / Duarte / Birch.

Financially it helps because 1) OG will likely get paid more than Turner long term; and 2) you have a bench scorer (Duarte) locked up until 2025 at $4 million a year! We have to face facts: we cannot afford all 5 current starters plus a competent bench without getting some cheap pieces like Duarte.
This would be a treadmill type move. You give up the best young asset in a deal and you still aren't a true contender.

I'm not against trading OG, but it should be in a package for a star.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#178 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:12 pm

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Tha Cynic wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Turner, Duarte and IND 1st unprotected would be a no brainer for Toronto. But I would be shocked if Indiana makes such an offer.


No first coming to Toronto - I would send protected first back.


So OG + protected FRP for Turner and Duarte?
I love OG but that would sort of address our 2 biggest weaknesses.


Yeah, I think this is fair for both teams.

But it really depends on how highly Indiana thinks of Duarte. It is possible giving up a 1st rounder is a bit overkill for the Raptors, but this just sets this roster up so perfect, that i would do it.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#179 » by tdotrep2 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:13 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Masai's probably looking at under the radar types like Naz Reid, Herbert Jones, Okongwu, Garuba etc. Especially if they lose Boucher in the offseason or trade him at the deadline. They will need cheap replacements.

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Maybe, but he's not going to be cheap after this season.

it wont be as high as you think, and he could possibly be had for a few 2nd rounders
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade 

Post#180 » by ruckus » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:14 pm

Where's this Duarte talk coming from? No way Indiana gives up on Duarte. They're probably looking to offload Levert to give Duarte more time.

And I agree with Cynic that they're also looking for some kind of pick compensation as they look to have a bit of a rebuilding mindset.
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