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Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward”

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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#161 » by Tripod » Sat May 20, 2023 3:47 am

If it's Siakam, it's crazy how it balances the lineup and we get younger, rebuild, and add depth all at once.

Scoot/Miller, Simons, OG, Barnes, Yak
#13 pick, Boucher, Achiuwa, Koloko
Off chance of Otto
Then we could also get depth from FVV or GTJ s&t
Might even be able to get a future pick or 2 from Portland

Rebuild done
Possible star to pair with Barnes
Still good enough to be a playoff team for MLSE
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#162 » by changes » Sat May 20, 2023 3:50 am

sounded good until I read elite, raptors ain't it.
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#163 » by Raptors_128 » Sat May 20, 2023 3:50 am

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:its gonna be Siakam

if its OG and filler, that would be a surprise

Ya...who else would it be?

Julius Randle? - there is no way Randle is worth #3.

KAT? - possible...but he would make the Blazers already bad defence...much much much worse. But maybe the plan is to pair Ant Edwards with Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller?

Jaylen Brown? - I can't imagine a contending team trading their 2nd best player for a draft pick.

Lauri Markkanen? - had a great breakout season but worthy of a #3 pick?

Mikal Bridges? - great defender, pretty good shooter ---rebounding and passing is lacking---I think it's too soon to consider him elite. He needs to do more than take all the shots on a bad Brooklyn team before considering him elite.

Pascal? - 2 time NBA all-star; 2 time all-NBA; Most Improved Player; NBA champion and bonafide 2nd option on a championship team


I think it’s Bridges. Lillard is very close to Bridges and has been really pushing for him. Although I don’t see why the Nets would trade him.

I don’t want to pay Siakam for where we are as a franchise but my god he’s hella underrated.

Lillard + Siakam and a great supporting cast I can see making some noise in the playoffs but Lillard + Bridges? What’s the goal here for Portland? Getting to the 2nd round?
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#164 » by hyper316 » Sat May 20, 2023 3:56 am

If I was Brooklyn, bridges worth more than scoot or Miller and wouldn't trade him
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#165 » by bstein14 » Sat May 20, 2023 3:56 am

Siakam or Mikal Bridges are the only two that make sense timeline wise. Unless KD is available.... the other interesting name would be Lauri Markkanen but not sure where Utah is overall on a rebuild phase at this point. Zion would also make some level of sense but so much depends on his health.
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Post#166 » by nikster » Sat May 20, 2023 4:19 am

Tripod wrote:If it's Siakam, it's crazy how it balances the lineup and we get younger, rebuild, and add depth all at once.

Scoot/Miller, Simons, OG, Barnes, Yak
#13 pick, Boucher, Achiuwa, Koloko
Off chance of Otto
Then we could also get depth from FVV or GTJ s&t
Might even be able to get a future pick or 2 from Portland

Rebuild done
Possible star to pair with Barnes
Still good enough to be a playoff team for MLSE

Scoot would be so much better for us. Don't like all Miller's red flags off the court either. If we make that move, best hope is Charlotte skips Scoot out of fit concerns with Melo
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Post#167 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Sat May 20, 2023 4:28 am

nikster wrote:
Tripod wrote:If it's Siakam, it's crazy how it balances the lineup and we get younger, rebuild, and add depth all at once.

Scoot/Miller, Simons, OG, Barnes, Yak
#13 pick, Boucher, Achiuwa, Koloko
Off chance of Otto
Then we could also get depth from FVV or GTJ s&t
Might even be able to get a future pick or 2 from Portland

Rebuild done
Possible star to pair with Barnes
Still good enough to be a playoff team for MLSE

Scoot would be so much better for us. Don't like all Miller's red flags off the court either. If we make that move, best hope is Charlotte skips Scoot out of fit concerns with Melo


Don't think Yak stays if Pascal goes or he gets the sense they are going young. He's had too much of that BS. Raps aren't going to risk losing Yak
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#168 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat May 20, 2023 4:30 am

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#169 » by NinjaBro » Sat May 20, 2023 4:35 am

Johnny Bball wrote:Watching this Cetlics and Heat game, and Butler going off, makes me realize the last player I ever want to have to move is OG.
I'm perfectly fine keeping OG, he's the last person I want to trade next to Barnes. We're kind of spoiled watching him shut down the opposing team's best player every night. Doesn't he lead the league in Opponent isolation fg%? Remembered seeing a tweet that opponents were shooting something ridiculous like .21% against him. We're probably never going to be able to replace OG ever again unless we draft the next Kawhi.
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Post#170 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Sat May 20, 2023 4:43 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10


If we trade Siakam we want #3 or no dice. Scoot/miller and Simons. Nevermind all these other teams
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#171 » by PhilBlackson » Sat May 20, 2023 4:46 am

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10


If we trade Siakam we want #3 or no dice. Scoot/miller and Simons. Nevermind all these other teams


Idk whatever you're smoking is laced with but you're not getting the 3rd, Sharpe, 7th & 10th for Siakam :lol: he's not f*cking Luka Doncic.
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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#172 » by TravisScott55 » Sat May 20, 2023 4:51 am

Portland fans gonna be mad when their team trades Simons, Sharpe and the #3 for Siakam
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Post#173 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat May 20, 2023 4:57 am

I like Siakam but him and Dame is not scaring anyone.
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Post#174 » by C_Money » Sat May 20, 2023 4:59 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:I like Siakam but him and Dame is not scaring anyone.


Only because the rest of their roster is trash. Especially if we get Simons coming back.
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Post#175 » by isyed » Sat May 20, 2023 5:07 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10
Big ass trade in but not bad for everyone. I think each team gets something solid back. I would fight to keep the 13th pick however. If we are not getting a top 5 pick for Siakam I rather keep the 13th.

We save some money to sign everyone else. Get younger with talent and picks. Balance the roster with Siakam moving and barnes playing at his preferred 4 spot. We add more shooting to the lineup as well.

Poetl/Koloko
Barnes/Precious
Og/Sharpe/porter
Gtjr/Simmons
Fvv/Dowtin

7th, 10th and 13th picks as well.
Banton/Harper Jr also in the pipeline

Maybe use mle to get some vet gaurd depth. Trade Thad, Boucher and Flynn for another bench scorer.

Everyone gets more shots. Salary is more Manageable and we replenish our cupboard with more talent. Wouldn't mind loosing the 13th now that I look at it especially if we can get a couple high 2nds from some team.

We can still compete for the playin or higher while barnes develops and young lotto players develop with the team.




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Re: Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward” 

Post#176 » by 720 » Sat May 20, 2023 5:11 am

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Basketball_Jones wrote:I like Siakam but him and Dame is not scaring anyone.


Only because the rest of their roster is trash. Especially if we get Simons coming back.

Unless Brown becomes available the Blazers aren’t getting anyone better at the forward spot. Kat isn’t better. Demar isn’t better, Lavine isn’t better. It’s Siakam boys. LETS GOOOOOO!
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Post#177 » by NinjaBro » Sat May 20, 2023 5:51 am

720 wrote:
C_Money wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:I like Siakam but him and Dame is not scaring anyone.


Only because the rest of their roster is trash. Especially if we get Simons coming back.

Unless Brown becomes available the Blazers aren’t getting anyone better at the forward spot. Kat isn’t better. Demar isn’t better, Lavine isn’t better. It’s Siakam boys. LETS GOOOOOO!



Blazers FO have been after OG and Siakam for a while now, been making offers to us every off season but Blazers fans are like "Nah, don't want them". Bozos. :lol:
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Post#178 » by Purple+Black » Sat May 20, 2023 5:52 am

Also think this has Siakam written all over it. Sharpe, Simons, #3 for Spicey P + some depth combination is a fair deal.

We get younger and start accelerated rebuild around: Scottie, Simons, Sharpe, #3, #13

I like this, I like this a lot for both teams.
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Post#179 » by tdotrep2 » Sat May 20, 2023 6:22 am

Dame, Sharpe, Grant, Siakam and Nurk is not scaring anyone? If they add some good roleplayers they should scare people.
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Post#180 » by Jcity08 » Sat May 20, 2023 6:24 am

C_Money wrote:There’s people on this board that will tell you OG is an elite forward.

Get ‘er done BC!


He made 2nd team all defense on a team that couldnt even win a game in the play-in. That has to be worth something.
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