Masai’s plan moving forward

[NotMyKawhi]

You gotta trade OG and Pascal

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Look.. if you want to say trade Pascal I can see the logic with the time frame. Posting trade both them.. you love nuts of all variety. That's all I can take from your assessments.

These wanna be GMS..

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

[wegotthabeet]

You gotta trade OG and Pascal

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Look.. if you want to say trade Pascal I can see the logic with the time frame. Posting trade both them.. you love nuts of all variety. That's all I can take from your assessments.

These wanna be GMS..

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

[AbC?]

No long term plan just vibes and kicking the can on decisions as long as possible

[Tor_Raps]

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Look.. if you want to say trade Pascal I can see the logic with the time frame. Posting trade both them.. you love nuts of all variety. That's all I can take from your assessments.

These wanna be GMS..

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

[wegotthabeet]

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

that's the only thing that matters.

they'll just match any offer and deal later if needed.

[ItsDanger]

[Tor_Raps]

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

that's the only thing that matters.

they'll just match any offer and deal later if needed.

Again, those teams were winning 50 games... there is 0 reason to stay with a crappy team if you are getting offer similar money elsewhere. Especially Siakam who this management team has dragged through the mud.

[NotMyKawhi]

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Look.. if you want to say trade Pascal I can see the logic with the time frame. Posting trade both them.. you love nuts of all variety. That's all I can take from your assessments.

These wanna be GMS..

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

of late? Kawhi, green, Gasol, ibaka, Lowry, FVV. We signed DD and lowry era bc we were close, just losing to bron every year. We weren't out of the top 8. We were winning.

We aren't winning. Sixers getting one of OG or pascal. Way better situation. Coach they won with. Superstar and maxey. Magic? Bringing their whole starting line up back. max spot. Warm Florida. Texas w Wemb? Even pistons Cade, Killian, Ivey, Asuar, Duran... We have scottie. We are losing both

[WaltFrazier]

PG- Andrew Nembhard or Cason Wallace
C- Pray that Koloko or Precious turn into Raptors Ibaka

I honestly just don't see the Nembhard love.

As someone that's followed Nembhard (and been a fan of) since his Gators days - he's definitely not someone that possesses star potential, nor can he ever be the sidekick to Scottie in the same way Murray is to Jokic.
Andrew is an EXCELLENT role player and will always be one. He'll carve out a long NBA career but if you're looking for a "young PG who can pass, shoot, and break down the defense" at a HIGH level, Nembhard is not that guy.

He's also turning 24 soon so it's not like we're discussing a 19 year old prospect here either.

Not just about Nembhard but more a side comment generally: the frequent comments about 24 year olds being too old don't make sense to me. If a guy is a mature young veteran at 24-25 and we get 4-5 good years from him up to age 30 or so, what's wrong with that? A 19-20 year old isn't staying with the same franchise his whole career anyway, typically.

[ItsDanger]

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

that's the only thing that matters.

they'll just match any offer and deal later if needed.

Player: "I don't want to play here anymore."
GM: "We can't lose you for nothing!"
Player: "Do a S&T. They got some expiring toxic contracts and will throw in a 2027 2nd round pick".
GM: "Ummm. OK "

[Tor_Raps]

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

that's the only thing that matters.

they'll just match any offer and deal later if needed.

Player: "I don't want to play here anymore."
GM: "We can't lose you for nothing!"
Player: "Do a S&T. They got some expiring toxic contracts and will throw in a 2027 2nd round pick".
GM: "Ummm. OK "

That's the best case scenario... there are plenty of really appealing teams with money this offseason where no sign and trade will be required.

Teams such as OKC, Philly, Spurs and Orlando are all so far ahead of us in terms of appeal that you'd question OG/Siakams overall smarts if they came back lol.

[WaltFrazier]

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

of late? Kawhi, green, Gasol, ibaka, Lowry, FVV. We signed DD and lowry era bc we were close, just losing to bron every year. We weren't out of the top 8. We were winning.

We aren't winning. Sixers getting one of OG or pascal. Way better situation. Coach they won with. Superstar and maxey. Magic? Bringing their whole starting line up back. max spot. Warm Florida. Texas w Wemb? Even pistons Cade, Killian, Ivey, Asuar, Duran... We have scottie. We are losing both

Have OG and Pascal both go to Philly I say. That's a team I could root for in the East.

Both guys are wasting their primes on our development team. I know ppl say OG fits Scottie's timeline and all, but he's also ready to be on a contender right now. I'm a huge OG fan, and I like Pascal too, and part of me would like to see them in the thick of the playoffs this year.

That's my feeling after a bad loss anyway, could change after a good win next game or the game after.

[Morse Code]

Ideally this would be our lineup in 2 years:

PG - A young PG who can pass, shoot and break down the defense
SG - Dick (elite 3 point shooter)
SF - OG (DPOY level defender who can give you 16-18 ppg)
PF - Scottie (Superstar)
C - A 3 & D Center

6th man - Schroder
Key rotation players - Poeltl, Precious, someone like Otto but less injury prone

Most important part of this for me is the 3&D center. It will open up everything even if they're not a world beater. I love this mindset for our roster.

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[mademan]

I think we overpay OG and he stays. Siakam tho...ya, he might be walking.

[nikster]

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

of late? Kawhi, green, Gasol, ibaka, Lowry, FVV. We signed DD and lowry era bc we were close, just losing to bron every year. We weren't out of the top 8. We were winning.

We aren't winning. Sixers getting one of OG or pascal. Way better situation. Coach they won with. Superstar and maxey. Magic? Bringing their whole starting line up back. max spot. Warm Florida. Texas w Wemb? Even pistons Cade, Killian, Ivey, Asuar, Duran... We have scottie. We are losing both

The FO had no interest in keeping Green, Gasol, Ibaka or or Lowry lol

[Spida888]

I think we overpay OG and he stays. Siakam tho...ya, he might be walking.

I think that's what happens with OG. I would be so perplexed though if we don't trade/extend Pascal before the trade deadline. FO needs to be canned if they let Pascal leave for nothing.

[Scase]

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

Difference was that those were 50 win teams and we were paying them the most. We are currently a crappy team with a worse future outlook than those mentioned teams.

If someone decides it's worth to max OG, like Houston kind of did with Fred, we're screwed. The fact we are risking our future like that is extremely concerning.

that's the only thing that matters.

they'll just match any offer and deal later if needed.

You realize that both of them are unrestricted free agents right? Matching means nothing. Why would you take the raps over a team that is a legitimate chip contender when the same money is on the table? OG is likely to not care about the extra year from bird rights as he's young enough to get another long term contract at 30, Siakam is probably more likely to stay here, which is exactly what we DONT want.

OG should be prioritized a million percent over Siakam, but our clueless FO is running up into FA with zero leverage.....again.

[Scase]

Ideally this would be our lineup in 2 years:

PG - A young PG who can pass, shoot and break down the defense
SG - Dick (elite 3 point shooter)
SF - OG (DPOY level defender who can give you 16-18 ppg)
PF - Scottie (Superstar)
C - A 3 & D Center

6th man - Schroder
Key rotation players - Poeltl, Precious, someone like Otto but less injury prone

Most important part of this for me is the 3&D center. It will open up everything even if they're not a world beater. I love this mindset for our roster.

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Our roster? Every single team in the NBA would give their left leg for a 3+D center, that's like saying Lebron would would open everything up for this team.

[wegotthabeet]

Just accepting reality. We've lost Kawhi, Green, ibaka, Gasoal, Lowry and FVV since the championship. Batting zero on re-signing our unrestricted free agents.

When you consider this off-season the sixers max spot, Spurs 2 max spots w wemb, Magic max spot w 2 young stars while brining back every starter. Pistons max spot.

History says we lose both of them. If I was Pascal or OG I'd prefer all 4 of those spots over Toronto

they can re-sign their own FA's if they want/need to. this was proven in the DeRozan/Lowry era when they re-signed both twice.

of late? Kawhi, green, Gasol, ibaka, Lowry, FVV. We signed DD and lowry era bc we were close, just losing to bron every year. We weren't out of the top 8. We were winning.

We aren't winning. Sixers getting one of OG or pascal. Way better situation. Coach they won with. Superstar and maxey. Magic? Bringing their whole starting line up back. max spot. Warm Florida. Texas w Wemb? Even pistons Cade, Killian, Ivey, Asuar, Duran... We have scottie. We are losing both

they'll 100% keep OG. i'd be willing to bet a lot on that.

Pascal, i think they move at some point pre deadline.

[ItsDanger]

Not many viable 3&D centres out there. People on this board wouldnt do Trent for Porzingis for **** sakes. Would rather blow same amount on useless bench pieces.