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Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV)

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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#161 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:06 pm

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pingpongrac wrote:20/21 was a bad season, but we got absolutely demolished by COVID absences and we were already at a disadvantage having to play home games in Tampa. 21/22 was a fun season where we blew away expectations and got a bit of playoff experience for Scottie. 22/23 was an annoying year, but two of our top players underperformed for a large chunk of it and we wound up .500. This season has just been awful aside from a handful of games and it has led to me being the most dejected about the Raptors since the early 2010s lol.

Pretty much this. Everything has just fallen off a cliff this year, probably because we no longer have an elite coach who can hide some deficiencies.


Things fell off a cliff last season. But instead of accepting our fate, we traded a FRP to try and climb back up (and of course, failed).
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#162 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:24 pm

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pingpongrac wrote:20/21 was a bad season, but we got absolutely demolished by COVID absences and we were already at a disadvantage having to play home games in Tampa. 21/22 was a fun season where we blew away expectations and got a bit of playoff experience for Scottie. 22/23 was an annoying year, but two of our top players underperformed for a large chunk of it and we wound up .500. This season has just been awful aside from a handful of games and it has led to me being the most dejected about the Raptors since the early 2010s lol.

Pretty much this. Everything has just fallen off a cliff this year, probably because we no longer have an elite coach who can hide some deficiencies.


Things fell off a cliff last season. But instead of accepting our fate, we traded a FRP to try and climb back up (and of course, failed).

Things did not fall off a cliff last year my god. Spoiled ass fanbase.

Cant wait for the rebuild so this place can get a taste of what being bad actually feels like :lol:
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#163 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:34 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:Pretty much this. Everything has just fallen off a cliff this year, probably because we no longer have an elite coach who can hide some deficiencies.


Things fell off a cliff last season. But instead of accepting our fate, we traded a FRP to try and climb back up (and of course, failed).

Things did not fall off a cliff last year my god. Spoiled ass fanbase.

Cant wait for the rebuild so this place can get a taste of what being bad actually feels like :lol:


Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#164 » by TheGeneral99 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:07 pm

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TheGeneral99 wrote:If this team is something like 12-20 or 13-19 in the next 10 games or so I will be on board team tank.


I think that is the likely outcome. This team has given me no confidence in their ability to win against teams that they should probably beat (upcoming games against the Hawks x2, Hornets and Jazz) while they also play a lot of good teams (Knicks, Nuggets, Sixers and Celtics). That only leaves the Wizards (first game back after Christmas break) and Pistons (2nd night of a B2B) with both of those matchups coming on the road where we haven't been good. We could realistically go 2-8 or 3-7 in the next 10 games then the schedule gets brutal again (vs CLE, @ MEM, @SAC, @ GSW, @LAL, @LAC, @UTA, vs BOS).

20/21 was a bad season, but we got absolutely demolished by COVID absences and we were already at a disadvantage having to play home games in Tampa. 21/22 was a fun season where we blew away expectations and got a bit of playoff experience for Scottie. 22/23 was an annoying year, but two of our top players underperformed for a large chunk of it and we wound up .500. This season has just been awful aside from a handful of games and it has led to me being the most dejected about the Raptors since the early 2010s lol.


Yes, excellent analysis.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#165 » by 2019nbachamps » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:01 am

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YogurtProducer wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Things fell off a cliff last season. But instead of accepting our fate, we traded a FRP to try and climb back up (and of course, failed).

Things did not fall off a cliff last year my god. Spoiled ass fanbase.

Cant wait for the rebuild so this place can get a taste of what being bad actually feels like :lol:


Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.


Can’t believe dudes are still defending this dumpster fire of a front office we have. FVV turned down their extension offer yet they held onto him during the deadline only for him to leave for nothing. Yet we’re told it’s smart to keep dead wood like Temple and Thad on the roster.
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Post#166 » by Tortiglioni » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:33 am

Who knew Darko would be this good at driving a tank?
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#167 » by KL78192020 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:34 am

only 2 games out of 4th worst. lets go!!
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Post#168 » by Lord_Zedd » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:35 am

KL78192020 wrote:only 2 games out of 4th worst. lets go!!


Imagine this team actually trying to tank
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#169 » by HumbleRen » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:36 am

2019nbachamps wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Things did not fall off a cliff last year my god. Spoiled ass fanbase.

Cant wait for the rebuild so this place can get a taste of what being bad actually feels like :lol:


Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.


Can’t believe dudes are still defending this dumpster fire of a front office we have. FVV turned down their extension offer yet they held onto him during the deadline only for him to leave for nothing. Yet we’re told it’s smart to keep dead wood like Temple and Thad on the roster.


Just gotta ignore them, they don’t even care about the state of the team. They hate admitting that we were right more than the team being a dumpster fire.

It burns them knowing their direction has utterly failed and that all of our concerns from 2 years ago came into fruition.
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Post#170 » by Brinbe » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:40 am

The Pistons, Wiz, Spurs, Blazers, Jazz are all committed tankers and will be hard to catch but I could see the Hornets (who just whooped us with Lamelo), Grizz (when Ja gets back) and Bulls (Who've been playing better without Lavine) soon pass us. So we could be that sixth team and slip into that protection.

Still have a long way to go but if this continues I could see us keeping the pick if we get some lotto luck.

And although this draft isn't amazing right now, I wouldn't turn down the chance to add a top 6 prospect.

And I don't see foresee things getting that much better next season so we could keep the pick then too.

Obviously not great for Scottie's development but that's the reality of things right now.
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Post#171 » by Basketball_Jones » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:43 am

One thing about this team is they don’t give up. Like they can mail it in the like Wizards but don’t and like fighting back down 20 points a lot. This has been the case last year as well. At some point, when does that fire die and they end up getting blown out like the other bad teams? When do the injuries hit? They’re holding on by a thread it seems to me.
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Post#172 » by Chandan » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:44 am

Tortiglioni wrote:Who knew Darko would be this good at driving a tank?


Dennis is german afterall.

they build the best tanks.
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Post#173 » by PushDaRock » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:57 am

Brinbe wrote:The Pistons, Wiz, Spurs, Blazers, Jazz are all committed tankers and will be hard to catch but I could see the Hornets (who just whooped us with Lamelo), Grizz (when Ja gets back) and Bulls (Who've been playing better without Lavine) soon pass us. So we could be that sixth team and slip into that protection.

Still have a long way to go but if this continues I could see us keeping the pick if we get some lotto luck.

And although this draft isn't amazing right now, I wouldn't turn down the chance to add a top 6 prospect.

And I don't see foresee things getting that much better next season so we could keep the pick then too.

Obviously not great for Scottie's development but that's the reality of things right now.


You would need to out-tank these teams not just this year but the next 3 to avoid giving up the pick to the Spurs, I don't think that would be easy to pull off and team morale would be rock bottom knowing the front office wants you to purposely lose games because of the pick situation.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#174 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:04 am

HumbleRen wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.


Can’t believe dudes are still defending this dumpster fire of a front office we have. FVV turned down their extension offer yet they held onto him during the deadline only for him to leave for nothing. Yet we’re told it’s smart to keep dead wood like Temple and Thad on the roster.


Just gotta ignore them, they don’t even care about the state of the team. They hate admitting that we were right more than the team being a dumpster fire.

It burns them knowing their direction has utterly failed and that all of our concerns from 2 years ago came into fruition.
I honestly could care less about who is or is not right on a message board :lol:
What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#175 » by Jcity08 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:05 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Things fell off a cliff last season. But instead of accepting our fate, we traded a FRP to try and climb back up (and of course, failed).

Things did not fall off a cliff last year my god. Spoiled ass fanbase.

Cant wait for the rebuild so this place can get a taste of what being bad actually feels like :lol:


Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.


The PR for last seasons garbage is insane. Instead of having better lottery odds and rebuilding around our Sophmore Barnes by trading our expiring contracts, we decided to trade a top 6 protected pick for the services of the Turtle and only got as far as making the play-in where we got knocked out expeditiously. Couldn't even get a play-in win out of that trade. And we lost assets for nothing after the season came to a close.

And now 23 games in, we still havent cracked double digit wins and are sitting 5 games under .500... :lol:

Okay technically though, I agree we didnt fall off a cliff last season. Our drop to the bottom was too shallow to call it a cliff dive, more like a belly flop off a small dune. Just consistent mediocrity with chefs kiss exit into the offseason in the form of Derozans young daughter.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#176 » by Brinbe » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:08 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Brinbe wrote:The Pistons, Wiz, Spurs, Blazers, Jazz are all committed tankers and will be hard to catch but I could see the Hornets (who just whooped us with Lamelo), Grizz (when Ja gets back) and Bulls (Who've been playing better without Lavine) soon pass us. So we could be that sixth team and slip into that protection.

Still have a long way to go but if this continues I could see us keeping the pick if we get some lotto luck.

And although this draft isn't amazing right now, I wouldn't turn down the chance to add a top 6 prospect.

And I don't see foresee things getting that much better next season so we could keep the pick then too.

Obviously not great for Scottie's development but that's the reality of things right now.


You would need to out-tank these teams not just this year but the next 3 to avoid giving up the pick to the Spurs, I don't think that would be easy to pull off and team morale would be rock bottom knowing the front office wants you to purposely lose games because of the pick situation.

I'm just talking this year and next but look at the talent level on this team. We're almost there and not even trying to tank.

I'd say a lot of those teams below us also have a good case of surpassing us next year
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Post#177 » by HumbleRen » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:18 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:
Can’t believe dudes are still defending this dumpster fire of a front office we have. FVV turned down their extension offer yet they held onto him during the deadline only for him to leave for nothing. Yet we’re told it’s smart to keep dead wood like Temple and Thad on the roster.


Just gotta ignore them, they don’t even care about the state of the team. They hate admitting that we were right more than the team being a dumpster fire.

It burns them knowing their direction has utterly failed and that all of our concerns from 2 years ago came into fruition.
I honestly could care less about who is or is not right on a message board :lol:


Highly doubt it considering you always go back and forth with people who disliked the direction of the franchise. :lol:

You don’t get to feign nonchalant after spending years defending the moves of the FO.
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Post#178 » by TorontoBarneys » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:23 am

HumbleRen wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Being the 7th worst team in the NBA, trading a FRP to try and make the play-in, then losing that play-in in predictably embarassing fashion is absolutely falling off a cliff.


Can’t believe dudes are still defending this dumpster fire of a front office we have. FVV turned down their extension offer yet they held onto him during the deadline only for him to leave for nothing. Yet we’re told it’s smart to keep dead wood like Temple and Thad on the roster.


Just gotta ignore them, they don’t even care about the state of the team. They hate admitting that we were right more than the team being a dumpster fire.

It burns them knowing their direction has utterly failed and that all of our concerns from 2 years ago came into fruition.


Yep. It's so very clear that certain posters are still deeply in their feelings lol.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#179 » by PushDaRock » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:32 am

Brinbe wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Brinbe wrote:The Pistons, Wiz, Spurs, Blazers, Jazz are all committed tankers and will be hard to catch but I could see the Hornets (who just whooped us with Lamelo), Grizz (when Ja gets back) and Bulls (Who've been playing better without Lavine) soon pass us. So we could be that sixth team and slip into that protection.

Still have a long way to go but if this continues I could see us keeping the pick if we get some lotto luck.

And although this draft isn't amazing right now, I wouldn't turn down the chance to add a top 6 prospect.

And I don't see foresee things getting that much better next season so we could keep the pick then too.

Obviously not great for Scottie's development but that's the reality of things right now.


You would need to out-tank these teams not just this year but the next 3 to avoid giving up the pick to the Spurs, I don't think that would be easy to pull off and team morale would be rock bottom knowing the front office wants you to purposely lose games because of the pick situation.

I'm just talking this year and next but look at the talent level on this team. We're almost there and not even trying to tank.

I'd say a lot of those teams below us also have a good case of surpassing us next year


Our point differential is -1.9. We are competing with 7 other teams that have -6 or worse point differentials. Not saying it's impossible but we would need to lose a lot of games that we should actually be winning similar to the Tampa season where we went 27-45 somehow with a -0.4 point differential. Even then, it was only good for 7th worst that season.
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#180 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:37 am

One of the things that don't get talked about much is how this team isn't reliable to do anything consistently or have an image about it. They suck at pretty much everything.

In the past when we sucked, our team had an identity to at least score or defend only or be a soft 3 pt shooting team (relative to others at the time). Right now, you can't really trust our team to do anything consistently. There is no identity and actual leadership on this team.

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