Raptors sign Jamison Battle (exhibit 10)

[YogurtProducer]

He'll be better than Robinson and played situationally. Mogbo is probably the back up C next year. I guess they get another 2nd round big forward too

Robinson is. 22/10 on 62TS% guy in the g league. I don’t think you grasp how far away Chomche is. He likely never makes the league.

The numbers don't matter. No one is asking either to score at this level. It's more about not being targeted and fulfilling role duties. On defense Chomche shouldnt stick out like a sore thumb while his length will deter drives. He should get 5-10 minutes a game on average next season. The perpetual GLeague development isn't going to work

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

[Thaddy]

Robinson is. 22/10 on 62TS% guy in the g league. I don’t think you grasp how far away Chomche is. He likely never makes the league.

The numbers don't matter. No one is asking either to score at this level. It's more about not being targeted and fulfilling role duties. On defense Chomche shouldnt stick out like a sore thumb while his length will deter drives. He should get 5-10 minutes a game on average next season. The perpetual GLeague development isn't going to work

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

We don't need offense from Chomche we need him to switch, deter drives, and defend the pick and roll. If he rebounds and blocks shots that's good enough. Robinson was in a different role.

[Tripod]

^^^^

So just plat 4vs5 on offense?

How about we just strive for better?

[YogurtProducer]

The numbers don't matter. No one is asking either to score at this level. It's more about not being targeted and fulfilling role duties. On defense Chomche shouldnt stick out like a sore thumb while his length will deter drives. He should get 5-10 minutes a game on average next season. The perpetual GLeague development isn't going to work

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

We don't need offense from Chomche we need him to switch, deter drives, and defend the pick and roll. If he rebounds and blocks shots that's good enough. Robinson was in a different role.

And there is no evidence Chomche is even average at defence, let alone good enough defensively to overcome his massive offensive shortfalls.

All I am saying is don't expect production from Chomche next year. The guy is not an NBA player yet, and may never be one.

[Thaddy]

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

We don't need offense from Chomche we need him to switch, deter drives, and defend the pick and roll. If he rebounds and blocks shots that's good enough. Robinson was in a different role.

And there is no evidence Chomche is even average at defence, let alone good enough defensively to overcome his massive offensive shortfalls.

All I am saying is don't expect production from Chomche next year. The guy is not an NBA player yet, and may never be one.

It would be something where he gets spot minutes in the first half of the year, gradually shows more over the season, and then we play him more against tanking teams. In the playoffs if we can get him spot minutes it would be even better for his development. I've seen him play and he's improving rapidly, you'll feel the same way after summer league.

[YogurtProducer]

We don't need offense from Chomche we need him to switch, deter drives, and defend the pick and roll. If he rebounds and blocks shots that's good enough. Robinson was in a different role.

And there is no evidence Chomche is even average at defence, let alone good enough defensively to overcome his massive offensive shortfalls.

All I am saying is don't expect production from Chomche next year. The guy is not an NBA player yet, and may never be one.

It would be something where he gets spot minutes in the first half of the year, gradually shows more over the season, and then we play him more against tanking teams. In the playoffs if we can get him spot minutes it would be even better for his development. I've seen him play and he's improving rapidly, you'll feel the same way after summer league.

What you just posted is in the "almost best case" outcomes.

Realistically, he plays all year in the G-Leauge and never plays a meaningful minute.

[Tripod]

And there is no evidence Chomche is even average at defence, let alone good enough defensively to overcome his massive offensive shortfalls.

All I am saying is don't expect production from Chomche next year. The guy is not an NBA player yet, and may never be one.

It would be something where he gets spot minutes in the first half of the year, gradually shows more over the season, and then we play him more against tanking teams. In the playoffs if we can get him spot minutes it would be even better for his development. I've seen him play and he's improving rapidly, you'll feel the same way after summer league.

What you just posted is in the "almost best case" outcomes.

Realistically, he plays all year in the G-Leauge and never plays a meaningful minute.

Yeah I am treating Chomche as a 2nd rd pick in 2026....see what you look like then.

[WuTang_CMB]

Getting more confident out there and Adding moves

Not just a stand alone shooter if he can continue to add this stuff

Also anyone watching his defense? He’s positionally been solid.

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[PushDaRock]

If we are trying to win and optimizing lineups, is there really a case for Gradey to play over Battle next season? This team fully healthy will have a lot of guys that need the ball in their hands, so whoever is coming off the bench likely isn't going to get a ton of touches. Battle has been the better shooter both in accuracy and volume, more size, better defender, better rebounder and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Gradey really is such an odd fit with this roster we have now. Getting hurt was the worst timing for both him and us in evaluating his fit for the future, probably wouldn't have hurt the tank either.

[Boogie!]

If we are trying to win and optimizing lineups, is there really a case for Gradey to play over Battle next season? This team fully healthy will have a lot of guys that need the ball in their hands, so whoever is coming off the bench likely isn't going to get a ton of touches. Battle has been the better shooter both in accuracy and volume, more size, better defender, better rebounder and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Gradey really is such an odd fit with this roster we have now. Getting hurt was the worst timing for both him and us in evaluating his fit for the future, probably wouldn't have hurt the tank either.

Getting hurt doesn’t affect anything in terms of being able to evaluate him. He’s played enough minutes to show who he is. I keep saying his value is in his ability to be an elite shooter and right now he isnt that.

[Psubs]

^^^^

So just plat 4vs5 on offense?

How about we just strive for better?

Just have him as a lob threat.

[PushDaRock]

If we are trying to win and optimizing lineups, is there really a case for Gradey to play over Battle next season? This team fully healthy will have a lot of guys that need the ball in their hands, so whoever is coming off the bench likely isn't going to get a ton of touches. Battle has been the better shooter both in accuracy and volume, more size, better defender, better rebounder and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Gradey really is such an odd fit with this roster we have now. Getting hurt was the worst timing for both him and us in evaluating his fit for the future, probably wouldn't have hurt the tank either.

Getting hurt doesn’t affect anything in terms of being able to evaluate him. He’s played enough minutes to show who he is. I keep saying his value is in his ability to be an elite shooter and right now he isnt that.

I mean if we just write him off as a mediocre shooter that can't defend based on his career thus far, then yeah he's probably out of the league within 5 years. But he's shown enough flashes where there is at least a bit of optimism for him and he's early enough in his development that some steep improvements are still possible, missing a month where he would have had the opportunity to get game reps and show some of the stuff he's been working on in a low pressure environment is less than ideal.

[Boogie!]

If we are trying to win and optimizing lineups, is there really a case for Gradey to play over Battle next season? This team fully healthy will have a lot of guys that need the ball in their hands, so whoever is coming off the bench likely isn't going to get a ton of touches. Battle has been the better shooter both in accuracy and volume, more size, better defender, better rebounder and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Gradey really is such an odd fit with this roster we have now. Getting hurt was the worst timing for both him and us in evaluating his fit for the future, probably wouldn't have hurt the tank either.

Getting hurt doesn’t affect anything in terms of being able to evaluate him. He’s played enough minutes to show who he is. I keep saying his value is in his ability to be an elite shooter and right now he isnt that.

I mean if we just write him off as a mediocre shooter that can't defend based on his career thus far, then yeah he's probably out of the league within 5 years. But he's shown enough flashes where there is at least a bit of optimism for him and he's early enough in his development that some steep improvements are still possible, missing a month where he would have had the opportunity to get game reps and show some of the stuff he's been working on in a low pressure environment is less than ideal.

The guy stunk it up in the g league I mean, people keep saying the same about Scottie, how he should play better against trash teams and he hasn’t. At some point it has nothing to do with the opponents.

[brownbobcat]

Robinson is. 22/10 on 62TS% guy in the g league. I don’t think you grasp how far away Chomche is. He likely never makes the league.

The numbers don't matter. No one is asking either to score at this level. It's more about not being targeted and fulfilling role duties. On defense Chomche shouldnt stick out like a sore thumb while his length will deter drives. He should get 5-10 minutes a game on average next season. The perpetual GLeague development isn't going to work

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

I think it's unlikely Chomche amounts to anything. But at the same age, Koloko was averaging 2.3/2.4 on 47TS% in college and that guy was a lock as a rotation player, according to some.

[YogurtProducer]

The numbers don't matter. No one is asking either to score at this level. It's more about not being targeted and fulfilling role duties. On defense Chomche shouldnt stick out like a sore thumb while his length will deter drives. He should get 5-10 minutes a game on average next season. The perpetual GLeague development isn't going to work

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

I think it's unlikely Chomche amounts to anything. But at the same age, Koloko was averaging 2.3/2.4 on 47TS% in college and that guy was a lock as a rotation player, according to some.

And if someone said Koloko was unlikely to be an NBA player after Kolokos freshman season they would have been right. Him being an outlier doesn't mean anything for Chomche.

[deck]

Getting more confident out there and Adding moves

Not just a stand alone shooter if he can continue to add this stuff

Also anyone watching his defense? He’s positionally been solid.

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I've been noticing his team rebounding in particular. He is often very well positioned.

[PushDaRock]

Getting hurt doesn’t affect anything in terms of being able to evaluate him. He’s played enough minutes to show who he is. I keep saying his value is in his ability to be an elite shooter and right now he isnt that.

I mean if we just write him off as a mediocre shooter that can't defend based on his career thus far, then yeah he's probably out of the league within 5 years. But he's shown enough flashes where there is at least a bit of optimism for him and he's early enough in his development that some steep improvements are still possible, missing a month where he would have had the opportunity to get game reps and show some of the stuff he's been working on in a low pressure environment is less than ideal.

The guy stunk it up in the g league I mean, people keep saying the same about Scottie, how he should play better against trash teams and he hasn’t. At some point it has nothing to do with the opponents.

I'm already questioning the fit myself, but I disagree about writing him off after less than 3000 minutes played in the NBA. Scottie is nearing 10k minutes played in comparison.

[brownbobcat]

The #'s entirely matter.

Robinson, a 3rd stringer at best, is a bonafide star in the G-League. 23/12 on 63.3TS% last year

Chomche is putting up 8/9 on 59.2TS%

The gap between them in enourmous. And I hope Chomche has a crazy developmental curve but "expecting" anything from him right now is purely hope and is not bound in reality or any sort of likely outcome. You should expect him to not be on a NBA roster in 24 months and be absolutely shocked if he even becomes a 12th man. He is a late 2nd and incredibly raw and now injured. His hit rate is super, suepr low.

I think it's unlikely Chomche amounts to anything. But at the same age, Koloko was averaging 2.3/2.4 on 47TS% in college and that guy was a lock as a rotation player, according to some.

And if someone said Koloko was unlikely to be an NBA player after Kolokos freshman season they would have been right. Him being an outlier doesn't mean anything for Chomche.

Do I think it's unlikely? Absolutely.
Do I think the numbers mean anything? Not really. It was known that he was extremely raw but also had rare athletic gifts. That matters in the NBA more than GLeague stats. Caruso averaged 12/5/4 in the G as a 22-yr old.

[YogurtProducer]

I think it's unlikely Chomche amounts to anything. But at the same age, Koloko was averaging 2.3/2.4 on 47TS% in college and that guy was a lock as a rotation player, according to some.

And if someone said Koloko was unlikely to be an NBA player after Kolokos freshman season they would have been right. Him being an outlier doesn't mean anything for Chomche.

Do I think it's unlikely? Absolutely.
Do I think the numbers mean anything? Not really. It was known that he was extremely raw but also had rare athletic gifts. That matters in the NBA more than GLeague stats. Caruso averaged 12/5/4 in the G as a 22-yr old.

I agree with you. You are responding to a chain in which Thaddy said he was expecting Chomche to contribute NEXT season.

[brownbobcat]

And if someone said Koloko was unlikely to be an NBA player after Kolokos freshman season they would have been right. Him being an outlier doesn't mean anything for Chomche.

Do I think it's unlikely? Absolutely.
Do I think the numbers mean anything? Not really. It was known that he was extremely raw but also had rare athletic gifts. That matters in the NBA more than GLeague stats. Caruso averaged 12/5/4 in the G as a 22-yr old.

I agree with you. You are responding to a chain in which Thaddy said he was expecting Chomche to contribute NEXT season.

Oh, there's zero chance of that happening given the injury.