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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#161 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:00 am

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dTox wrote:The only hope for this team, is Ed Rogers to step in and fire this clown.

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Yeah, that 1st rounder could have been anything, maybe even as good as Brandon Ingram
This is some serious coping, I will revisit this thread when it blows up in our face next year after Ingram plays yet another season of less than 60 games.

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Sure.

I assume when the pacers pick ends up in the 20s and is out of the league in 4 years you will do the same.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#162 » by traps#10 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:00 am

I went into the shower before the trade, came out and found out we landed Ingram without giving up anything but a protected 1st round pick in 2026!
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#163 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:01 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Trading away 1st round picks still with our team in its current position?

Masai is physically incapable of giving up the treadmill.
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Yeah, that 1st rounder could have been anything, maybe even as good as Brandon Ingram

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#164 » by canada_dry » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:01 am

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dTox wrote:Masai is washed. Fire him

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We added a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game...for 1 1st and cap filler.

We traded away a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game for 3 1sts and cap filler.

That's a tidy piece of work

It will be fun seeing the same posters blast the Siakam trade also blast this one.
Its an extension of the siakam trade. 2 birds with 1 stone. They gotta keep quite when they consider the haul we got for siakam.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#165 » by dTox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:01 am

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dTox wrote:Masai is washed. Fire him

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We added a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game...for 1 1st and cap filler.

We traded away a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game for 3 1sts and cap filler.

That's a tidy piece of work
Please just take a look at his games played over the past years, and how badly he chokes during crunch time.

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#166 » by Senbonzakura » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:01 am

Edit: Idk I'm waffling. I just don't see how he's a ceiling raiser. His numbers are worse than DeMars when he was here and he has health issues.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#167 » by HiJiNX » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:01 am

Bank Shot wrote:Dude is made of glass and isn't a high impact guy. This team does not need another high-volume/weak efficiency player. Even if we re-sign him for something reasonable (big if on the reasonable part), it's going to be very hard to move him. We are probably going to try to rehabilitate his value and fail.

He’s not a high impact guy if he’s gonna be your number one. But as a complimentary guy with good wings next to him, it starts to make him look real good.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#168 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

traps#10 wrote:I went into the shower before the trade, came out and found out we landed Ingram without giving up anything but a protected 1st round pick in 2026!


If it's only top 4 protected that's a big loss
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#169 » by Tripod » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

canada_dry wrote:The siakam trade has turned into ingram ochai shead and walter.

Are we still gonna bitch about that trade or nah? :)

And some were pissed we didn't trade him earlier for Griffin and Bufkin

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#170 » by dTox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

The only way to save this, is by trading RJ, we cannot have him and Ingram on the same team.

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#171 » by Cyrus » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

The only positive I see from this deal is we moved off Kelly Olynyk - 3 year deal (2 years remaining), who was cooked defensively. Good connector offensively, but just gives it up on the end, was going to be unplayable in 2 year time.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#172 » by traps#10 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:The tank was getting cooked already we played ourselves out of top 5 maybe even top 7. Don’t like throwing in the Indy pick and the strong possibility Ingram walking unless we pay big money to an injury riddled 27 year old. But in a vacuum, he’s a better talent/shot maker we’re gonna have over anyone we draft this year. Indy pick is going to be a low, another Jakobe or Gradey guy that doesn’t move the needle. I’m not mad at it.


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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#173 » by canada_dry » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

dTox wrote:
Tripod wrote:
dTox wrote:Masai is washed. Fire him

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We added a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game...for 1 1st and cap filler.

We traded away a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game for 3 1sts and cap filler.

That's a tidy piece of work
Please just take a look at his games played over the past years, and how badly he chokes during crunch time.

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I've seen him play quite well in the playoffs in series zion was missing.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#174 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 am

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Bank Shot wrote:Dude is made of glass and isn't a high impact guy. This team does not need another high-volume/weak efficiency player. Even if we re-sign him for something reasonable (big if on the reasonable part), it's going to be very hard to move him. We are probably going to try to rehabilitate his value and fail.

He’s not a high impact guy if he’s gonna be your number one. But as a complimentary guy with good wings next to him, it starts to make him look real good.

feels like this could bd RJ 2.0 when in 6-12 months we look back and realize we got good value.

Tank the rest of the year, but no reason this group can't fight for the playoffs next year (and not play-in, actual playoffs)
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#175 » by Syd-TK3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 am

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So we not trading Boucher i guess.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#176 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 am

Cyrus wrote:The only positive I see from this deal is we moved off Kelly Olynyk - 3 year deal (2 years remaining), who was cooked defensively. Good connector offensively, but just gives it up on the end, was going to be unplayable in 2 year time.

There was only 1 year remainign
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Post#177 » by nestea » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 am

mtcan wrote:Poor Kelly...just as we start seeing him in local commercials...he gone!


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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#178 » by Basketball_Jones » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 am

Tripod wrote:
dTox wrote:Masai is washed. Fire him

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We added a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game...for 1 1st and cap filler.

We traded away a borderline All Star averaging 22 pts a game for 3 1sts and cap filler.

That's a tidy piece of work


Hey now, gotta put some respect on Siakam. He’s perennial all star not borderline. And should have more value than Ingram. I’ll say his return is looking better these days though as I really like Ochai/Walter and now Ingram.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#179 » by traps#10 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
traps#10 wrote:I went into the shower before the trade, came out and found out we landed Ingram without giving up anything but a protected 1st round pick in 2026!


If it's only top 4 protected that's a big loss


I don’t think Masai would be that stupid, probably top 15 protected?
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#180 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:04 am

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dTox wrote:They are redoing the two timeline thing again, with Ingram/Poetl being the vets to replace Pascal /Fred. Lesson not learned.

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You really think we were just gonna only add players younger than 22 or something?

We are gonna go into next year with a solid starting 5 (IQ/RJ/Ingram/Barnes/Poeltl) plus a top 5-10 pick, plus Jakobe/Shead/Mogbo/etc.

How you think that is anything the same as Fred/Pascal/OG/Barnes and no bench I will never understand. Just inability to use nuance, I suppose.

RJ Barrett isn't a solid anything, he's a much worse version of the guy we just acquired. He needs to be dealt.
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