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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:the only thing fleming does well is exist with a ++ WS, it's not enough. saint jo's schedule quite poor, still has negative ast:to, isn't a crazy event creator for a guy with his dimensions.
Yallbecrazy wrote:Jerry Lucas wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
yes go draft a guy longer than vj with 0.5x his ORB%, STL% and BLK% let me know how that goes.
Yup, it's the combination of those 3 things plus his AST% for me. It's been there consistently for him too.
He's been on this Athleticism x Feel query all season long.
A couple of other notable prospects in this draft currently just miss the cut, but have been on that query at points this season and could very well still end up on it: Cooper Flagg and Thomas Sorber (both just short on STL%).
Add free throw percentage and free throw rate as other important predictors of aggression and skill. Should factor in turnovers too.
Shouldn't CMB be on the list too as he's a stock and oRB machine? His assists are also good for a big.
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Thaddy wrote:We're probably looking for defense first in the draft now that we've committed a lot to offense for the next 4 years.
I see Edgecombe, Maluach, and Fleming at the top of Masai's list. Shead and Edgecombe would be a great back court defense combo. Mogbo and Fleming are switchable but we'd have rim protection issues, statistically it's worth seeing Maluach isn't great there either.
If we can buy a 2nd for cash I would take a gamble on Zvonmir Ivisic. The stats don't match his play but I'm intrigued.
My dream draft if we sit at 5th and 36th.
5th = Edgecombe
36th + Agbaji = Fleming + 40-55th
40-55th = Z. Ivisic
Poeltl / Fleming / Ivisic
Barnes / Mogbo / Chomche
Ingram / Walter / Battle
Barrett / Dick / Edgecombe
Quickely / Shead
my dream draft in that situation is edgecombe, kalkbrenner and braden smith
would give the team the right depth it needs
PhilBlackson wrote:If we're not in the top 4, I think I'm going with Khaman.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
Son Goku 25 wrote:Wish Edgecomb was a bit bigger not sure if he'll get bodied in the NBA.
MEDIC wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:If we're not in the top 4, I think I'm going with Khaman.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
I agree. It also seems Masai is positioning himself for that range.
KM might even end up becoming the most impactful player from this draft. He is up there with the rest.......especially when you consider he has more upside due to experience.
Condon has good footwork and a few quality post moves he can go to. He doesn’t have the strongest frame, so his offensive game requires a bit more craft. He has great natural feel for a big, making him an offensive hub in certain situations. He’s also a promising perimeter shooter. The Gator has struggled at times from deep and his efficiency isn’t as high as it needs to be, but all signs point to Condon being a floor spacer at the NBA level. With that in mind, he isn’t the greatest free throw shooter which is something to consider.
The incredible motor and natural instincts Condon plays with make a significant impact on the glass, as he’s been able to be a productive rebounder. Furthermore, he can pull it down and push the break on his own. The Australian prospect has a solid handle for his size and is an adequate positional decision maker with good passing instincts.
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:khaman is a weird prospect but he has the best shooting markers of the bigs which gives him potential with the pick and pop as well as floor spacing c&s
there are things i like about him and things i hate about him. he is an abysmal dribbler. but does he really need to dribble a lot? maybe scheyer is showing him and teams a path to success for him in the nba by severely limiting how he operates. but this doesn't make him multidimensional enough to ever be more than just a solid starter with unique strengths and serious limitations that when taken as a whole could still allow him to stay on the floor. will he be able to just operate in more or less the same capacity he is at duke in the NBA with a little more added USG% from some shooting?
he isn't the smartest guy on the court and fumbles rebounds and loose balls but he's not what i'd call totally dumb either. but his size alone provides some kind of value to team defense. he's an excellent rim runner and finisher. ridiculous orb% in conference play. he sucks at allowing his team to recover his blocks as they seem to either go back to opponents or out of bounds.
gonna have to put a lot of time into him and the predraft process will be important bc he's so dependent on development. you have to think a kid from south sudan is going to put all his focus into his career.
causal_fan wrote:Given the Raptors current makeup, who would be the best prospects to add - BPA or a specific position/skillset.
Psubs wrote:Son Goku 25 wrote:Wish Edgecomb was a bit bigger not sure if he'll get bodied in the NBA.
I guess there were similar concerns with Jalen Green. VJ is maybe less quick but seems quite elusive with the way he contorts and bounces.