Free Agency & Trades Thread **NOW OPEN**

[Zeno]

From all my years of watching the draft and listening to the talk leading up to it, Ace seems like he’s going to fall hard. He measurements weren’t great and people don’t like his interviews so far from what I’ve heard. On the other hand, I bet Cedric Coward goes before we get to pick.

[Merit]

3 max players on the roster already, they're pretty restricted in the pieces they can get back with the salary constraints they're operating around.

It wouldn't be about adding to the roster i don't think. It would be "take #3 and PG's contract for 50 milly per year in neutral assets".

That’s a lot of contract to take for a diminishing player.

I’d do it. He’s not diminishing, he’s injured. Our medical team can stretch a few years out of him and having two top 10 picks is pretty legendary.

[Spida888]

Some rumours that PHI are listening to trade down offers for #3.
Would you guys consider making a move at that if it's something like #9 + sweetener to move up?
In the past, to move up a few spots, it's like pick swap + an additional future FRP. So maybe #9 + one of Gradey/JKW/future FRP?

[Ell Curry]

Some rumours that PHI are listening to trade down offers for #3.
Would you guys consider making a move at that if it's something like #9 + sweetener to move up?
In the past, to move up a few spots, it's like pick swap + an additional future FRP. So maybe #9 + one of Gradey/JKW/future FRP?

I feel like they'd have to get a cheap but productive PF back:

Embiid-PF-George-Grimes-Maxey
Bona-Edwards-McCain

and whoever they draft after trading down.

So it won't be us. Though Mogbo could be added into the deal along with the #9 and let's say a future unprotected 1st, and then Mogbo is the backup PF, and I guess Philly trades the picks, Oubre + Drummond for a starting PF making under 15M? Not sure who that is, though. Aldama in a S+T for a Philly first and they keep the Toronto picks?

Houston could do Jabari Smith + #10, which is interesting in that they get 2 more cheap years from going from Jabari to #3, and they can pay Eason, but who do they take at #3 that fits? It makes more sense if San Antonio will trade down from #2 and they can take Harper, or if San Antonio passes on Harper.

Portland can do Camara + #11, that sort of makes sense.

[Spida888]

Some rumours that PHI are listening to trade down offers for #3.
Would you guys consider making a move at that if it's something like #9 + sweetener to move up?
In the past, to move up a few spots, it's like pick swap + an additional future FRP. So maybe #9 + one of Gradey/JKW/future FRP?

I feel like they'd have to get a cheap but productive PF back:

Embiid-PF-George-Grimes-Maxey
Bona-Edwards-McCain

and whoever they draft after trading down.

So it won't be us. Though Mogbo could be added into the deal along with the #9 and let's say a future unprotected 1st, and then Mogbo is the backup PF, and I guess Philly trades the picks, Oubre + Drummond for a starting PF making under 15M? Not sure who that is, though. Aldama in a S+T for a Philly first and they keep the Toronto picks?

Houston could do Jabari Smith + #10, which is interesting in that they get 2 more cheap years from going from Jabari to #3, and they can pay Eason, but who do they take at #3 that fits? It makes more sense if San Antonio will trade down from #2 and they can take Harper, or if San Antonio passes on Harper.

Portland can do Camara + #11, that sort of makes sense.

I won't do an unprotected 1st lol. If moving up doesn't make sense to the FO or is too costly, maybe getting another FRP to draft Coward/Fleming would be better.

[Tripod]

Some rumours that PHI are listening to trade down offers for #3.
Would you guys consider making a move at that if it's something like #9 + sweetener to move up?
In the past, to move up a few spots, it's like pick swap + an additional future FRP. So maybe #9 + one of Gradey/JKW/future FRP?

I feel like they'd have to get a cheap but productive PF back:

Embiid-PF-George-Grimes-Maxey
Bona-Edwards-McCain

and whoever they draft after trading down.

So it won't be us. Though Mogbo could be added into the deal along with the #9 and let's say a future unprotected 1st, and then Mogbo is the backup PF, and I guess Philly trades the picks, Oubre + Drummond for a starting PF making under 15M? Not sure who that is, though. Aldama in a S+T for a Philly first and they keep the Toronto picks?

Houston could do Jabari Smith + #10, which is interesting in that they get 2 more cheap years from going from Jabari to #3, and they can pay Eason, but who do they take at #3 that fits? It makes more sense if San Antonio will trade down from #2 and they can take Harper, or if San Antonio passes on Harper.

Portland can do Camara + #11, that sort of makes sense.

I saw them hoping for a Tre Murphy +7 for 3 type deal.

It's not worth the cost IMO.

[DreamTeam09]

Utah should take 3 & PG for Lauri & then draft Ace at #3 & Tre Johnson at 5
Then move John Collins and Clarkson for MPJ + 1st
Collin Sexton for Gafford + 2nd

K.george / Collier
PG / Tre Jones
ACE / Cody Williams
MPJ / Kyle Flip
Gafford / Kessler

That's a good tank squad for the year, you can fool your fanbase into trying to be competitive untill PG and MPJ gets injured around the trade deadline, or you just trade em when there's less years/months available on their deals

[earthtone]

Utah should take 3 & PG for Lauri & then draft Ace at #3 & Tre Johnson at 5
Then move John Collins and Clarkson for MPJ + 1st
Collin Sexton for Gafford + 2nd

K.george / Collier
PG / Tre Jones
ACE / Cody Williams
MPJ / Kyle Flip
Gafford / Kessler

That's a good tank squad for the year, you can fool your fanbase into trying to be competitive untill PG and MPJ gets injured around the trade deadline, or you just trade em when there's less years/months available on their deals

yah I'm with you, I feel like that's the best possible deal for Philly & Utah both. Might have to add Utah's pick in the twenties depending on how much Philly still values PG, but I think this is the most likely framework for a deal

[billy_hoyle]

Some rumours that PHI are listening to trade down offers for #3.
Would you guys consider making a move at that if it's something like #9 + sweetener to move up?
In the past, to move up a few spots, it's like pick swap + an additional future FRP. So maybe #9 + one of Gradey/JKW/future FRP?

I feel like they'd have to get a cheap but productive PF back:

Embiid-PF-George-Grimes-Maxey
Bona-Edwards-McCain

and whoever they draft after trading down.

So it won't be us. Though Mogbo could be added into the deal along with the #9 and let's say a future unprotected 1st, and then Mogbo is the backup PF, and I guess Philly trades the picks, Oubre + Drummond for a starting PF making under 15M? Not sure who that is, though. Aldama in a S+T for a Philly first and they keep the Toronto picks?

Houston could do Jabari Smith + #10, which is interesting in that they get 2 more cheap years from going from Jabari to #3, and they can pay Eason, but who do they take at #3 that fits? It makes more sense if San Antonio will trade down from #2 and they can take Harper, or if San Antonio passes on Harper.

Portland can do Camara + #11, that sort of makes sense.

What if they draft the cheap but productive power forward at #9?

Would you do Ochai and Queen/Flemming for Ace if you're Philly?

Maybe.

I could see both teams being interested in that TBH.

[TGM]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

[djsunyc]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

can you expand on why you think kuminga would be better for us? right now i see him as an mle player.

[youngRAPZ]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

lol everyone thinks RJ doesn’t fit with BI and 4 and you think swapping him for Kuminga works better?


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[Spida888]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

Kuminga is better defensively and RJ is better offensively. Both can't shoot well.

I'm not confident that Kuminga works well when we really need more shooting. Yet from an asset management standpoint, if we tie up Kuminga for multiple years at AAV in low 20s or lower, it may be worth it for the upside. He's younger than Scottie.

[OakleyDokely]

Kuminga doesn't have a good feel for the game and makes some of the dumbest plays possible. On paper, he looks the part, but on the court, I doubt he figures it out to the point where he's worth big money.

[Ell Curry]

What if they draft the cheap but productive power forward at #9?

Would you do Ochai and Queen/Flemming for Ace if you're Philly?

Maybe.

I could see both teams being interested in that TBH.

I don't think we've ever seen a team move up from #9 to #3 (or equivalent) for a guy like Agbaji. He's a pretty classic type of guy who gets traded for a pick around #20 (Royce O'Neale, Melton, those sort of good 5th starter 3+D types), and #9 + #20 feels like it only gets you up to say #5 or #6 at most (it was a while ago but I think #9+#19 got the Bucks up to #6 when they traded away Dirk).

Agbaji + #9 + I think a 3rd asset I think would be needed.

Maybe just an lottery protected first or a pick swap would be enough, but I feel like Philly gets a better offer from someone who thinks the draft has a 3rd star behind Flagg and Harper, whoever that may be. Someone has to look at Edgecombe's stats and think they're similar enough to Dwyane Wade that he could be 85% as good, and it's not like 2 firsts and Agbaji for a Demar/Joe Johnson level perennial fringe all-star SG isn't a great deal 90% of the time (let's say 10% of the time the first you give up is good enough that it's still meh to bad).

[Smalltown]

I don't think we've ever seen a team move up from #9 to #3 (or equivalent) for a guy like Agbaji.

Ya. 9 + Agbaji moves you up at best to 7.

[TGM]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

can you expand on why you think kuminga would be better for us? right now i see him as an mle player.

If you look at our glut of guards at the 2 and 3. They are all tiny and not defensive stoppers. Barnes thrives the most playing the 4 spot and providing help side defense.

Ochai is a solid defender, but he is too small to cover strong 3s. RJ is an average defender and same as Ingram. We brought in BI for his offensive and not for him to be getting banged up against bigger swings.

I like RJ, but this is more about rebalancing the roster. With Kuminga you have a guy with strong upside and really good lateral quickness. Salary wise I think they are pretty close.

[Son Goku 25]

What are the chances we get Naz Reid this summer? Saw he can opt out and become a FA this summer, what needs to happen I don't think we have enough cap space.

[LoveMyRaps]

What are the chances we get Naz Reid this summer? Saw he can opt out and become a FA this summer, what needs to happen I don't think we have enough cap space.

Definitely don't have the cap space but I would LOVEEEE Naz on this team.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Wondering if there is a RJ for Kuminga S and T that GS would consider.

Kuminga has the laterally quickness to play and cover the 2 through 4 spots and something we lack in terms of size and athleticism.

can you expand on why you think kuminga would be better for us? right now i see him as an mle player.

If you look at our glut of guards at the 2 and 3. They are all tiny and not defensive stoppers. Barnes thrives the most playing the 4 spot and providing help side defense.

Ochai is a solid defender, but he is too small to cover strong 3s. RJ is an average defender and same as Ingram. We brought in BI for his offensive and not for him to be getting banged up against bigger swings.

I like RJ, but this is more about rebalancing the roster. With Kuminga you have a guy with strong upside and really good lateral quickness. Salary wise I think they are pretty close.

Not sure what the Kuminga upside is. He’s been given enough chances with the warriors and he should be paid commensurate to his current production which is not going to improve. He’s a good mle player.