Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Possibly, but you got nothing. Only thing we do know is they turned down trading the pick.

They had the best odds for Giannis at one point.

That’s great. Not sure where you’re going with this. Still not proving anything. lol.

They did scout CMB, for quite a while. It still looks like he was just BPA to me.

Like, it's not shocking a GM without a contract is out there trying to make desperate moves. That's how we ended up with Jermaine O'Neal.

[OAKLEY_2]

We have no clue who is pushing for whom in the war room. Where the responsibility lies etc.

Bingo.

[OAKLEY_2]

I dont know considering they always draft this type of archetype for years now, seems they all pretty much on board with the pick. They always love value. If CMB gets a shot he’s a top 3 guy. The analytic profile is too strong.

I see a shot there. I think he is going to be OG impactful on defence. He is going to get to the line. A lot. He def is pass first though. While everyone else was bouncing about the kinetic energy particle collider he moved about the chaos with skilled precision.

[WWSRD]

Looks like he'll be 36% 3P shooter within a year or 2. Potentially getting close to 40% as his career progresses. Stroke looks fine already.
What's going to help him is shot selection. The number 1 quality I see from him is basketball intelligence. He's only going to take high percentage 3s.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

If he had a decent 14 foot shot, that people respected. Like, from the top of the right elbow. That's 18-20ppg.

If he's shooting threes respectably at any point. That's long term top five in this draft. Maybe top three.

[tsherkin]

If he had a decent 14 foot shot, that people respected. Like, from the top of the right elbow. That's 18-20ppg.

He popped a middie semi-regularly in college, and appeared to be pretty decent pulling up into it, as well, from what I've seen. TBF, I recall it mostly being bottom half of the circle, but the framework is there.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

If he had a decent 14 foot shot, that people respected. Like, from the top of the right elbow. That's 18-20ppg.

He popped a middie semi-regularly in college, and appeared to be pretty decent pulling up into it, as well, from what I've seen. TBF, I recall it mostly being bottom half of the circle, but the framework is there.

The way he can dunk from that area. It would be show and go's all day.

[tsherkin]

The way he can dunk from that area. It would be show and go's all day.

He's definitely going to have more space than he did in college, particularly if our guys stay healthy. And since he won't be focal for the defense, and he's a bright kid, I think he's going to have a field day cutting around primary action.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

The way he can dunk from that area. It would be show and go's all day.

He's definitely going to have more space than he did in college, particularly if our guys stay healthy. And since he won't be focal for the defense, and he's a bright kid, I think he's going to have a field day cutting around primary action.

Even if his shot doesn't get better, with his all around game. He's still going to be a really good role player.

[tsherkin]

Even if his shot doesn't get better, with his all around game. He's still going to be a really good role player.

It is certainly looking that way, yes.

[Grew]

Someone once said Kawhi goes out there and hurts people on defense. Like he's literally so physical and strong it hurts to play against him. I see that with CMB so far in this summer league. Guys don't want to go at him, they don't even want the ball around him.

[Grew]

I know it's just summer league, but CMB looks like he might be the closest defensive comparison to Kawhi ever. No one else has hands like that.

His processing speed is just so high on that end. He's everywhere, getting his hand on everything. I think he's better than OG in this regard already. Scary stuff. If he can keep it up against NBA players... He's impressed me so much I think he has a path to being the best defender in the league.

[WWSRD]

For those more familiar with Ingram than I, please let me know:

- Can he play the 2?
- I'd like to imagine a future (like end of this season) with CMB and Scottie at the 3/4 with Poetl at the 5. That seems like the best defensive lineup.
- Slot IQ at the 1 and we know BI needs to start.

Is this possible. Let's assume shooting is not an issue.

[LoveMyRaps]

What makes me excited about his 20 points from last night, is the fact that he did it through the dirty work, rebounding, cutting to the rim, and hustle plays. These are plays that will be there for him during the regular season. He'll actually have even more opportunities of such.

If he was handling the ball, taking fadeaway jumpers, or whatever, sure it'd look aesthetically pleasing but you wouldn't expect that out of him during the regular season.

I think he'll have a rookie season similar to Scottie - where he'll have a bunch of 20+ point games and 8+ rebounds.

[LoveMyRaps]

For those more familiar with Ingram than I, please let me know:

- Can he play the 2?
- I'd like to imagine a future (like end of this season) with CMB and Scottie at the 3/4 with Poetl at the 5. That seems like the best defensive lineup.
- Slot IQ at the 1 and we know BI needs to start.

Is this possible. Let's assume shooting is not an issue.

Yes that works. Ingram is more than capable of playing the 2.

Quickley
Ingram
Barnes
CMB
Poeltl

That makes me excited. But we won't see that until RJ gets moved.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm more than fine with CMB coming off the bench for now - he has more chemistry with the bench guys anyways, so it'll help ease his transition into the NBA. Of course, he'll get reps w/ some of the starters throughout the games.

[StopitLeo]

I know it's just summer league, but CMB looks like he might be the closest defensive comparison to Kawhi ever. No one else has hands like that.

His processing speed is just so high on that end. He's everywhere, getting his hand on everything. I think he's better than OG in this regard already. Scary stuff. If he can keep it up against NBA players... He's impressed me so much I think he has a path to being the best defender in the league.

There was this nice sequence at 3:20 in the Q3 where he made a layup and then was backpedaling on defense. CMB's man was inbounding the ball. Lawson and Walter were pressing so after the ball was inbounded GSW passed it right back to back to the big who had made the inbound pass.

The GSW big caught the ball around the restricted area and started dribbling up the court, meanwhile CMB had come back and was in his stance to meet him at the 3pt line. The big tried to turn his back to CMB and pass the ball off a dribble to a teammate at the nail but CMB deflected the pass and recovered the ball for a slam. There's something about how CMB turned the guy and anticipated that pass that stands out to me.

[Yallbecrazy]

One of the most impressive things is how he can provide help defense from the strong side without leaving his man open in the corner. He angles himself in a way where he might be able to deflect the pass and starts moving to the corner guy as the pass starts to be made so he closes out quickly and still can get a swipe at the ball handler subsequently slowing him down and allowing the primary to recover.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

dude just knows how to play instinctually

[WiggOuts]

He has a unique combination of important basketball traits that make him so very intriguing. Hes a big heavy/strong 6'7" with a lot of lower body strength. This gives him a good foundation to be an effective big man. Hes got great wingspan with big/heavy hands and a tall standing reach. He also has an innate nose for the ball which allows for him to always seemingly get a hand or even finger on the ball which often result in him gaining possession. That same nose seems to help him find his spots exceptionally well and he takes up a lot of space when he gets there, his anticipation is special. He has a calm demeanor but you can tell hes not afraid of anyone because there's a monster hiding under there

He has very good agility for someone his size/weight but you can tell there is a lot of room for improvement. Just by getting into nba shape I think he will take big leaps in athletic ability, his motor isnt bad but I bet it can get a lot better as he build his stamina. The way he plays on defense will demand a lot of energy and his impact there will only grow as he works on his body

Like many have said, you can see he processes the game at a higher level, his passing and defensive awareness display this. With experience his reads will get a lot better and his decision making will become elite

I think he's already going to be an effective impact player in year 1. Of course his shooting is kind of the be all end all for him and will decide how good he can be. Away from that he gives off the aura of being a leader. You can see in each game so far how his effectiveness increased as he grew more comfortable with his teammates. He has the least amount of experience playing with this group of guys but you couldn't tell by how he performs

Theres something different about him I can't quite put my finger on yet but he truly is looking like one of the best prospects this team has ever had