2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[LAL1947]

Just interested if Raptors fans would like this trade?
I think a 3 team trade involving the Kings/Raptors/Lakers would work assuming the Raptors are willing to take back Schroder at or near Buddy's current salary. It can't be done in the trade machine due to Schroeder being a FA but the KIngs would send out Buddy(Lakers), Barnes & Bagley (Raptors), Raptors would send out Siakam & Anunoby(Kings) and the Lakers would send Schroder to the Raptors. Maybe draft picks are involved as well for Raptors but this seems to be a likable trade for all. The only question I think would be are the Raptors willing to take Schroder and would they give up Anunoby.

I do believe that this is the worst proposal I've ever read.

It's probably the 2nd worst proposal I've read this off-season... after S&T Kyle Lowry for Ben Simmons. At least he's offering you an extra guy and multiple picks.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Assuming the Lowry deal goes through and Precious becomes a raptor....I would do a Kelly Oubre S&T for Chris Boucher. Boucher is familiar with the Warriors organization.

Fred VanVleet / Malachi Flynn
Kelly Oubre Jr. / Goran Dragic
OG Anunoby / Gary Trent Jr.
Pascal Siakam / Scottie Barnes
Khem Birch / Precious Achiwa

That roster can easily be successful next season imo

I don't see the allure in Oubre. Overrated defensively and a blackhole on offence.

Agree to diasgree. His defense is not overrated. He's still a nice player. But room to grow obviously. I think our developmental staff can really hone in his talents

don't think its a talent issue. its more of a mental, attitude, and maturity issue.

[HumbleRen]

According to Jason Dumas, Ben Simmons does not want to go to the Raptors or Portland. Prefers California teams.

[Raptors_128]

I’m thinking Barnes + Hield + Haliburton/Mitchell + pick(s) for Simmons + Curry

The Warriors package doesn’t make sense to me unless they are flipping the pieces coming back for win-now players. The Kings package gets them overpaid but serviceable win-now players and future assets to use in a trade for another star. They’ll need to find a point guard though.

[StopitLeo]

I’m thinking Barnes + Hield + Haliburton/Mitchell + pick(s) for Simmons + Curry

The Warriors package doesn’t make sense to me unless they are flipping the pieces coming back for win-now players. The Kings package gets them overpaid but serviceable win-now players and future assets to use in a trade for another star. They’ll need to find a point guard though.

Dragic?

[canada_dry]

I don't see the allure in Oubre. Overrated defensively and a blackhole on offence.

Agree to diasgree. His defense is not overrated. He's still a nice player. But room to grow obviously. I think our developmental staff can really hone in his talents

don't think its a talent issue. its more of a mental, attitude, and maturity issue.

Well u don't get much choice when you're being shopped with 4 years left on your contract bud.

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[Asif16]

I honestly don't think Oubre is as bad as you guys think he is. He's only 25 still. I think someone gonna hit a home run with him assuming he signs cheap (since all the money dried up)

[Godaddycurse]

what do people think of favors for dragic? not the most sexy C option but passable/not expensive for 2 years

[douggood]

what do people think of favors for dragic? not the most sexy C option but passable/not expensive for 2 years

favors on OKC now; okc by default asks for picks as soon as you call them, its just instinctive at this point.

[YelloC]

According to Jason Dumas, Ben Simmons does not want to go to the Raptors or Portland. Prefers California teams.

Alaska or Rhode Island should get an NBA team just so the can send Ben Simmons there.

[Lord_Zedd]

what do people think of favors for dragic? not the most sexy C option but passable/not expensive for 2 years

It's the same issue with Dwight Powell - though Favours is a slightly better player. Would rather just ride out Dragic and have his contract expire at the end of the season.

Besides, Sam Presti will be demanding some picks from us for the sake of us trying to save $$$.

[agkagk]

According to Jason Dumas, Ben Simmons does not want to go to the Raptors or Portland. Prefers California teams.

Alaska or Rhode Island should get an NBA team just so the can send Ben Simmons there.

thse must be the cities with the best wifi connections for his playstation ps plus account.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

According to Jason Dumas, Ben Simmons does not want to go to the Raptors or Portland. Prefers California teams.

Alaska or Rhode Island should get an NBA team just so the can send Ben Simmons there.

thse must be the cities with the best wifi connections for his playstation ps plus account.

He wouldn't like it in Toronto for sure. Knowing how we treat players, this dude will want a trade within the season because Raps fans will be hounding his social media accounts on how to shoot a ball.

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[Morris_Shatford]

Just spitballing Dragic ideas;

The wolves could potentially benefit from a guard off the bench behind their starting two?

[Morris_Shatford]

what do people think of favors for dragic? not the most sexy C option but passable/not expensive for 2 years

Favors is on the books for 2/18 whereas Dragic is 1/17.9m
The cash is similar but we end up with a 9mish TPE out of the deal and I would think that Presti would be looking to re-route Dragic as soon as humanly possible as well.

For the TPE they are going to need something;
I would do Dragic + Miami SRP for Favors but I don't know if that is enough.

[HumbleRen]

Alaska or Rhode Island should get an NBA team just so the can send Ben Simmons there.

thse must be the cities with the best wifi connections for his playstation ps plus account.

He wouldn't like it in Toronto for sure. Knowing how we treat players, this dude will want a trade within the season because Raps fans will be hounding his social media accounts on how to shoot a ball.

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That's going to happen regardless of the team he's at lol. Nothing will be worse than Philly.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

thse must be the cities with the best wifi connections for his playstation ps plus account.

He wouldn't like it in Toronto for sure. Knowing how we treat players, this dude will want a trade within the season because Raps fans will be hounding his social media accounts on how to shoot a ball.

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That's going to happen regardless of the team he's at lol. Nothing will be worse than Philly.

its true. imagine mortgaging your entire future of your franchise for this guy? and imagining playing with this guy till you retire (Curry, Lebron, Kawhi)

[Rapsfan07]

Just spitballing Dragic ideas;

The wolves could potentially benefit from a guard off the bench behind their starting two?

I've been trying to come up something but it's hard.

Tbh I was never really convinced that a team would take him into pure capspace. That team would be agreeing to taking themselves mostly, if not completely, out of the FA game. I can't see why they would do that for free; which means if we really want a TPE or capspace back, we have to pay to move him, in one way or the other.

Either we give up draft capital OR we take on longer term salary. If we take on longer term salary, I could see us requiring some compensation to do so.

This is why I feel the "direction" conversation isn't just important, it's central to how our FO decides we're going to be operating going forward. If we're going to take on garbage long term salary for picks, then it's probably best we sell on FVV and Siakam as well and just go completely young. If we're going to try and be competitive, then maybe we add some value to Dragic's contract to get a player that's going to help us towards that end.

When it's all said and done though, I think we're probably going to just keep him. He can still ball, we need a bit a guard depth and we can always revisit dealing him at the deadline. We'll probably get more then than when everyone knows we're trying to move him.

But if we're looking to REALLY swing for the fences, something around Porzingis would be the best upside move we could likely make with that contract. We add Boucher and maybe Dallas sends us one of their young guys for taking that deal off their hands.

[Pericles]

I think now might finally be the moment in bring Andrew Wiggins to Toronto.

[c3luong]

Just spitballing Dragic ideas;

The wolves could potentially benefit from a guard off the bench behind their starting two?

I've been trying to come up something but it's hard.

Tbh I was never really convinced that a team would take him into pure capspace. That team would be agreeing to taking themselves mostly, if not completely, out of the FA game. I can't see why they would do that for free; which means if we really want a TPE or capspace back, we have to pay to move him, in one way or the other.

Either we give up draft capital OR we take on longer term salary. If we take on longer term salary, I could see us requiring some compensation to do so.

This is why I feel the "direction" conversation isn't just important, it's central to how our FO decides we're going to be operating going forward. If we're going to take on garbage long term salary for picks, then it's probably best we sell on FVV and Siakam as well and just go completely young. If we're going to try and be competitive, then maybe we add some value to Dragic's contract to get a player that's going to help us towards that end.

When it's all said and done though, I think we're probably going to just keep him. He can still ball, we need a bit a guard depth and we can always revisit dealing him at the deadline. We'll probably get more then than when everyone knows we're trying to move him.

But if we're looking to REALLY swing for the fences, something around Porzingis would be the best upside move we could likely make with that contract. We add Boucher and maybe Dallas sends us one of their young guys for taking that deal off their hands.

Ujiri is an business and basketball executive, which means we will never go full on hopeless tank with him at the helm. It's going to be a re-tool here on out until we can make a move to put us into contending status again. This means that we're not going to move FVV, Siakam, or OG for picks - they are needed to keep us competitive.

If we can move Dragic for value we will do it, if not we keep him until the point comes where we can move him for value. This is always been how we have operated, and it's not going to change now.