Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[Tor_Raps]

Why do y’all think we need a center so much. I would only take a center if he was clearly better then the 2-2 1/2 we already have in Boucher birch and precious. Nurkick is really the only big I’d be interested in that’s available.
Team really could use a reliable guard off of the bench in the worst way. Someone that could give us about 8-10 points consistently would be huge and can handle a little bit.


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You just asked why we need a center and then mentioned Precious/Birch/Boucher as our guys at that position. None of those guys should be primary options at Center for any team that expects to win games.

Precious might become a really good player down the road but is raw as hell right now. Birch has been a career backup and belongs in the 15 minute role at best. Boucher is a PF who can play C well in some matchups.

[Los_29]

Dragic and a 1st for Holmes.

Then swing a Boucher and a 2nd for a guard.

I'd be surprised if Boucher is moved to be honest. He's been playing really well as of late and I think Nurse loves what he brings to the team.

Say it’s a Boucher and a 1st for Holmes.

Maybe they see Holmes locked in at a reasonable price and would rather have that for the next 3 years.

Honestly, I'm not being funny here but is Holmes even better than Boucher?

I'd be shocked if Masai traded for Holmes.

[Boardbreaker]

Other than maybe a depth guard/wing for the bench, I'd be happy if the Raps stood pat.

Unless a star is available, I'd keep all our assets instead of trading some of them for average players who really aren't genuine difference makers.

Even if Dragic was still on the team post-deadline? I'd be pretty disappointed if he wasn't moved for anything and we just bought him out or let him stay home the rest of the season.

[Loso04]

Cody Zeller was waived by the Blazers, that is who we are getting

[OakleyDokely]

Other than maybe a depth guard/wing for the bench, I'd be happy if the Raps stood pat.

Unless a star is available, I'd keep all our assets instead of trading some of them for average players who really aren't genuine difference makers.

Even if Dragic was still on the team post-deadline? I'd be pretty disappointed if he wasn't moved for anything and we just bought him out or let him stay home the rest of the season.

If we can get a decent player on a short contract fine, but I'm not trading key assets like 1st rounders with him for bench guys.

[PhilBlackson]

Other than maybe a depth guard/wing for the bench, I'd be happy if the Raps stood pat.

Unless a star is available, I'd keep all our assets instead of trading some of them for average players who really aren't genuine difference makers.

Sorry but getting rid of Goran is a must imo.

Already read Fischer saying Gary Harris may be bought out, I'd look there first to make a deal.

But there's no way I'd want us to waste time/money buying out Goran, just on principle that we've been paying him just to sit out and not fine him like Simmons (as we should've) but instead he's out chillin in MIA, after talking sh*t before he got here and then making it public that he's at their games -- that's some bs. So f him, he can waste a season of his washed career and figure it out after.

We're never serious contenders for the top buy out candidates who will likely just go load up on one of PHX, GSW, LAL, MIA or MIL. So no I wouldn't be good with just standing pat because surely there has to be at least some minor value available for Goran that can then be flipped out next tradeline or maybe in the offseason.

[redeye514]

that's terrible lol. Come on man.

Terrible offer? Or terrible for us?

We aren't going to give up a FRP for a guy like Holmes and his contract... especially with the way Boucher has been playing.

He doesn't move the needle so why throw away an asset for him.

We badly need a jolt of scoring from a guard/forward position off the bench. Even then, I'm not giving up a FRP for it.

A little off topic, but I remember Alex Anthopolous was once talking about contract values… touching on how term / salary can be viewed as bad. But it can also be good. Having ‘control of asset / player’ has value of its the right player.

I bring this up simply because Holmes may be viewed as a valuable contract.. term at an ok number. And as long long as he outplays the contract value, he will remain a tradeable asset of value.. so giving up a FRP doesn’t really hurt our tradeable asset base that much.

I have no strong opinion as to whether Holmes will be really good or not. But we have been linked to him before. And if we’re now trading for him, I have to assume management sees something in him (as they did in GTJ), so I’m going to give it the benefit of the doubt. As a casual observer of his game, he does seem to fill some needs and is at an age that fits our core.

[Appostis]

Cody Zeller was waived by the Blazers, that is who we are getting

Green font but unfortunately thats a possibility.

[Zeno]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

[PhilBlackson]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

A FRP for an expiring vet & Kenrich...a trade Colangelo would be proud of.

No thanks

[Madhouse]

Holmes would be a slight upgrade but I am not trading a first for him.

The other thing is the management wants to develop Precious and also Holmes has a contract that goes beyond 2023 where we need to extend more important players.

[Zeno]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

A FRP for an expiring vet & Kenrich...a trade Colangelo would be proud of.

No thanks

Well Gordon's got two years but yeah you are probably right.

[Madhouse]

Other than maybe a depth guard/wing for the bench, I'd be happy if the Raps stood pat.

Unless a star is available, I'd keep all our assets instead of trading some of them for average players who really aren't genuine difference makers.

Even if Dragic was still on the team post-deadline? I'd be pretty disappointed if he wasn't moved for anything and we just bought him out or let him stay home the rest of the season.

If we can get a decent player on a short contract fine, but I'm not trading key assets like 1st rounders with him for bench guys.

Dragic and a 2nd for a bench guard or wing seems by the most likely outcome to me.

[OakleyDokely]

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Guys like Naz are the type of young guys the Raps should be targeting. They need more cheap, young talent to fill out the bench.

[WuTang_CMB]

Terrible offer? Or terrible for us?

We aren't going to give up a FRP for a guy like Holmes and his contract... especially with the way Boucher has been playing.

He doesn't move the needle so why throw away an asset for him.

We badly need a jolt of scoring from a guard/forward position off the bench. Even then, I'm not giving up a FRP for it.

A little off topic, but I remember Alex Anthopolous was once talking about contract values… touching on how term / salary can be viewed as bad. But it can also be good. Having ‘control of asset / player’ has value of its the right player.

I bring this up simply because Holmes may be viewed as a valuable contract.. term at an ok number. And as long long as he outplays the contract value, he will remain a tradeable asset of value.. so giving up a FRP doesn’t really hurt our tradeable asset base that much.

I have no strong opinion as to whether Holmes will be really good or not. But we have been linked to him before. And if we’re now trading for him, I have to assume management sees something in him (as they did in GTJ), so I’m going to give it the benefit of the doubt. As a casual observer of his game, he does seem to fill some needs and is at an age that fits our core.

Holmes is a solid big no doubt and would fit in well. But the value of a FRP is just too great (especially in our timeline right now) to give up on someone like him when we have guys like Boucher already.

[mtcan]

Ruh-roh...Boban is DNP-CD tonight...


Jokes...Boban barely plays anyways...lol

[OakleyDokely]

Even if Dragic was still on the team post-deadline? I'd be pretty disappointed if he wasn't moved for anything and we just bought him out or let him stay home the rest of the season.

If we can get a decent player on a short contract fine, but I'm not trading key assets like 1st rounders with him for bench guys.

Dragic and a 2nd for a bench guard or wing seems by the most likely outcome to me.

That's probably the most likely scenario.

[dgr81]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

svi's salary would not affect the salary cap at all because he is signed to a minimum contract

[WuTang_CMB]

#1 Target should be a 1/2 combo guard that can play D and shoot the 3. Can carry the offense when FVV is out and can play with Banton or any of the starters.

[dgr81]

Hope it's a three-way deal with Houston. Eric Gordon doesn't do it for me.