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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1641 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:04 am

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ItsDanger wrote:More Edey propaganda. Plenty of "gimme the damn rock" moments, thats what you want to see.



I wonder where he goes in the draft. If he has a big tournament it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked first round.

I can see a team taking a flier on him with a second or him going undrafted. If he drops or goes undrafted, I hope we try to get him. Not sure I'd use a first on him though.


I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1642 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:15 am

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ItsDanger wrote:More Edey propaganda. Plenty of "gimme the damn rock" moments, thats what you want to see.



I wonder where he goes in the draft. If he has a big tournament it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked first round.

I can see a team taking a flier on him with a second or him going undrafted. If he drops or goes undrafted, I hope we try to get him. Not sure I'd use a first on him though.


I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.

Disagree. 1 on 1 he's tough because he can hook with either hand, drop step both ways. Can hook from 10 ft. Keep in mind a lot of his misses, he's getting fouled already. 7'10 wingspan and often jumps on his hook shots . Extremely physical player.

These aren't the risks with this guy. Playing with chuckers is.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1643 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:22 am

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Rapsfan07 wrote:
gbball wrote:
I wonder where he goes in the draft. If he has a big tournament it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked first round.

I can see a team taking a flier on him with a second or him going undrafted. If he drops or goes undrafted, I hope we try to get him. Not sure I'd use a first on him though.


I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.

Disagree. 1 on 1 he's tough because he can hook with either hand, drop step both ways. Can hook from 10 ft. Keep in mind a lot of his misses, he's getting fouled already. 7'10 wingspan and often jumps on his hook shots . Extremely physical player.

These aren't the risks with this guy. Playing with chuckers is.


Maybe. Still wouldn't touch him with a first though
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1644 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:24 am

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I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.

Disagree. 1 on 1 he's tough because he can hook with either hand, drop step both ways. Can hook from 10 ft. Keep in mind a lot of his misses, he's getting fouled already. 7'10 wingspan and often jumps on his hook shots . Extremely physical player.

These aren't the risks with this guy. Playing with chuckers is.


Maybe. Still wouldn't touch him with a first though

I definitely grab him. I think the highest he goes is 25th maybe. I'm hoping he's available at 36th. But someone will reach.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1645 » by Mark_83 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:32 am

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https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-brandon-miller-amen-thompson-ausar-thompson/

“Miller is a two-way high-level scoring wing,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He’s a Paul George type of player. What he’s doing as a freshman is impressive.”

I don’t think Miller’s quite as athletic as George, but I’ve seen footage of those guys back to back, and the comparisons aren’t that far off,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It’s clear that Brandon’s definitely watched some of Paul’s game. I think he may go third. Brandon’s a two-way player who can shoot the s*** out of it, and his handle is developing.”

[T]here’s become a debate amongst several NBA executives about whether Miller should leapfrog the Thompson twins on their draft boards.
When you’ve got a guy like Miller, it’s tough for me because I don’t care what your skill set is – if I’ve got a guy who’s a knockdown shooter who makes threes in a variety of ways, it’d be tough for me to pass that up for two guys that can't hit the broad side of a barn, no matter how talented the Thompson twins are in other regards,” a third NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It wouldn’t shock me if there are some teams that would consider Brandon at No. 2.”
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1646 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:03 am

Mark_83 wrote:;t=212s

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-brandon-miller-amen-thompson-ausar-thompson/

“Miller is a two-way high-level scoring wing,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He’s a Paul George type of player. What he’s doing as a freshman is impressive.”

I don’t think Miller’s quite as athletic as George, but I’ve seen footage of those guys back to back, and the comparisons aren’t that far off,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It’s clear that Brandon’s definitely watched some of Paul’s game. I think he may go third. Brandon’s a two-way player who can shoot the s*** out of it, and his handle is developing.”

[T]here’s become a debate amongst several NBA executives about whether Miller should leapfrog the Thompson twins on their draft boards.
When you’ve got a guy like Miller, it’s tough for me because I don’t care what your skill set is – if I’ve got a guy who’s a knockdown shooter who makes threes in a variety of ways, it’d be tough for me to pass that up for two guys that can't hit the broad side of a barn, no matter how talented the Thompson twins are in other regards,” a third NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It wouldn’t shock me if there are some teams that would consider Brandon at No. 2.”


If true, this isn't surprising. As I've said before, I have him firmly locked in at 3.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1647 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:11 am

ItsDanger wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
gbball wrote:
I wonder where he goes in the draft. If he has a big tournament it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked first round.

I can see a team taking a flier on him with a second or him going undrafted. If he drops or goes undrafted, I hope we try to get him. Not sure I'd use a first on him though.


I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.

Disagree. 1 on 1 he's tough because he can hook with either hand, drop step both ways. Can hook from 10 ft. Keep in mind a lot of his misses, he's getting fouled already. 7'10 wingspan and often jumps on his hook shots . Extremely physical player.

These aren't the risks with this guy. Playing with chuckers is.


Can he really drop-step both ways? I've always only seen him go one way, but if he can go both directions on the drop-step then he's better than I've been giving him credit for
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1648 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:13 am

Any of the top 3 would be ideal for us, after that is where it gets mucky.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1649 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:17 am

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Rapsfan07 wrote:
I wouldn't touch him with a first. He looks really slow and unskilled. He won't be powering though NBA Cs like that.

Disagree. 1 on 1 he's tough because he can hook with either hand, drop step both ways. Can hook from 10 ft. Keep in mind a lot of his misses, he's getting fouled already. 7'10 wingspan and often jumps on his hook shots . Extremely physical player.

These aren't the risks with this guy. Playing with chuckers is.


Can he really drop-step both ways? I've always only seen him go one way, but if he can go both directions on the drop-step then he's better than I've been giving him credit for

Yes. Most of his drop steps are using left hand as counter for right hook over left shoulder. That's the preferred starting point. The inverse drop step would naturally be a lot easier with his strong hand. I'll try to find a still photo of a 10 ft hook but it's basically dropping it into the basket.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1650 » by Mark_83 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:19 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:;t=212s

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-brandon-miller-amen-thompson-ausar-thompson/

“Miller is a two-way high-level scoring wing,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He’s a Paul George type of player. What he’s doing as a freshman is impressive.”

I don’t think Miller’s quite as athletic as George, but I’ve seen footage of those guys back to back, and the comparisons aren’t that far off,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It’s clear that Brandon’s definitely watched some of Paul’s game. I think he may go third. Brandon’s a two-way player who can shoot the s*** out of it, and his handle is developing.”

[T]here’s become a debate amongst several NBA executives about whether Miller should leapfrog the Thompson twins on their draft boards.
When you’ve got a guy like Miller, it’s tough for me because I don’t care what your skill set is – if I’ve got a guy who’s a knockdown shooter who makes threes in a variety of ways, it’d be tough for me to pass that up for two guys that can't hit the broad side of a barn, no matter how talented the Thompson twins are in other regards,” a third NBA executive told HoopsHype. “It wouldn’t shock me if there are some teams that would consider Brandon at No. 2.”


If true, this isn't surprising. As I've said before, I have him firmly locked in at 3.

It's him or Wallace for me as my top target for the Raps outside the top 2. Also, the way he plays with Clowney I hope we can add a bouncy PF who can be a vertical lob threat but unlike Clowney, also a pick and pop threat, like Taylor Hendricks in this draft, or in free agency, Christian Wood.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1651 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:26 am

I had Whitmore as my #3 preseason but Miller looks solid there right now. It's imperative we solidify at 5th worst.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1652 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:07 am

Oh, I have a projection for the Thompson twins. Quicker smaller versions of Kuminga. Maybe they pan out in 4-5 years? WAIT, them and Kuminga are 20 years old!!!

Miller is also 20!!!

3. Miller
4. Jarace
5. Jett / Smith / George / Whitmore

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1653 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:27 am

ItsDanger wrote:I had Whitmore as my #3 preseason but Miller looks solid there right now. It's imperative we solidify at 5th worst.


By the time it's all said and done, I think the first 10 or so draft picks will look something like this:

1. Wembanyama
2. Henderson
3. Miller
4. Whitmore
5. Walker

Slight chance that either twin could crack that
Top 5, pushing either Whitmore or Walker down. If that happens, and we hold on to #6, we're looking at:

Whitmore or Walker, George, Amen or Ausar or Nick Smith.

The chances of us out-tanking the Magic are very, very slim. But I think with a much needed fire sale, or at least moving two of OG/FVV/Trent/Siakam, we should be able to beat out Indiana.

Absolute worst case scenario, we stay at 6 and both Walker and Whitmore go in the Top 5, we'd be choosing between Amen, Ausar, George or Smith. At 7, we could be looking at Amen, Ausar or Smith. That's when things would be looking pretty bleak.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1654 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:30 am

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Preference at point guard. Hope he doesn't come back and people sleep on him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1655 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:08 am

Anyone else like Marcus Sasser?

Dude is incredibly toolsy and could be a good kid to develop in the 905.



Would 100% rather have him on the team than Flynn that's for sure.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1656 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:38 am

First time watching film on Jarace Walker and I see Jermi Grant 2.0. Probably more physical inside and probably slightly bigger.

Ino you might think that tanking for J.Grant 2.0 isn't all that appealing, but how many lotto picks become that good to begin with?

Walkers definitely top5 conversation
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1657 » by Brinbe » Mon Feb 6, 2023 11:04 am

i don't think brandon miller is like paul george at all. doesn't have the same athleticism, so don't quite get that comparison.

honestly, all i see whenver i watch him is paul pierce. who was still a bucket-getter despite not having the most burst or jump compared to others during his era. which is still pretty damn good.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1658 » by grant101 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:52 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Anyone else like Marcus Sasser?

Dude is incredibly toolsy and could be a good kid to develop in the 905.



Would 100% rather have him on the team than Flynn that's for sure.


Didn't take the jump I thought he might, and his percentages inside the arc are meh, but I like his defense and aggressiveness (though his finishing needs work), so I'd def consider him in the mid to late second round. I think he's a sg in a pg body. Would take him higher if his pg skills were a little better
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Post#1659 » by grant101 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:55 pm

Brinbe wrote:i don't think brandon miller is like paul george at all. doesn't have the same athleticism, so don't quite get that comparison.

honestly, all i see whenver i watch him is paul pierce. who was still a bucket-getter despite not having the most burst or jump compared to others during his era. which is still pretty damn good.


Every tall, lanky wing that can dribble and shoot it a bit gets compared to Paul George! Miller is solid, but I dont see George at all
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1660 » by Brinbe » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:08 pm

grant101 wrote:
Brinbe wrote:i don't think brandon miller is like paul george at all. doesn't have the same athleticism, so don't quite get that comparison.

honestly, all i see whenver i watch him is paul pierce. who was still a bucket-getter despite not having the most burst or jump compared to others during his era. which is still pretty damn good.


Every tall, lanky wing that can dribble and shoot it a bit gets compared to Paul George! Miller is solid, but I dont see George at all

george's tools popped at fresno state. like you just knew he'd be a star. was so sad when we missed out on drafting him.

anyway, another good game for walker



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