2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS

[Bruin]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

[Yallbecrazy]

5th year senior Chaz Lanier is like Buddy Hield 2.0

Why isn't he mocked, when he transferred to Tenneseee and are currently #1?

Huge game today Tennessee vs Illinois!!!

Watch on YouTube

I guess for contending teams late in the 1st and early 2nd should get serniors Kam Jones and Chaz Lanier.

Not mocked because including this year as a 5th year senior he has a career college BPM of 1.9. He probably wasn't in the top 200 until he has broken out at the age of 23.

[AbC?]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

[Naysorn]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

So a taller Jalen Green

[PushDaRock]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

Not much to get too optimistic about from that mix. Still can't get any separation and having to take tough shots 1 on 1 without help even. Every drive looks incredibly awkward where he kind of just throws it up at the rim. Another 0 assist and 4 turnover game and he even went 1-8 from the FT line too. The shots were dropping but nothing looked easy out there for him.

[Syd-TK3]

Yeah man Dylan is the number 1 pick

[PushDaRock]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

This player type has traditionally not panned out. MPJ is a very rare case of a guy that can be efficient taking tough shots, but you also see the limitations in his game too when you can't get to the rim or be a playmaker.

[Syd-TK3]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

I think the complaints about not attacking the rim make sense but I also think there are clear reason why he doesn't and potentially could in the future.

Mentality is obviously first but it's also just the fact that he's so skinny and weak with no handle at all

[PushDaRock]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

I think the complaints about not attacking the rim make sense but I also think there are clear reason why he doesn't and potentially could in the future.

Mentality is obviously first but it's also just the fact that he's so skinny and weak with no handle at all

All those things are true, but he's also just not a fluid athlete either. Nothing he does looks easy out there. He plays so upright and it makes every finish so awkward looking, not something that is likely to change imo.

[Yallbecrazy]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

So a taller Jalen Green

Jalen Green is uber athletic. Marvin Bagley seems like a more apt comparison?

[Syd-TK3]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

I think the complaints about not attacking the rim make sense but I also think there are clear reason why he doesn't and potentially could in the future.

Mentality is obviously first but it's also just the fact that he's so skinny and weak with no handle at all

All those things are true, but he's also just not a fluid athlete either. Nothing he does looks easy out there. He plays so upright and it makes every finish so awkward looking, not something that is likely to change imo.

I mean I'm not a expert on fluidity but ive seen good things from him before he's in no way a OG type mechanical mover. I think the bad handle has so much of an effect on what he could actually do

[TNRaps4life]

Just say you did not watch the game and have not followed the team. I have watched all their games this season and they literally have 2 players. The others can't do crap.

You only count assist when someone makes a shot. The whole team had 7 assists in the game. Ace is too unselfish and when he passed no one made shots. Is he a play maker? No.

Ace will be top 3 pick and a good player next to scottie. Very high ceiling.

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

[earthtone]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

So a taller Jalen Green

Jalen Green is uber athletic. Marvin Bagley seems like a more apt comparison?

I feel like Asa Newell is the Marvin Bagley of this class, albeit with much better defensive instincts.

Ace really seems like a Brandon Ingram clone or a lankier Khris Middleton, I think situation is going to be more important for him than almost any other lotto pick. If he's handed the keys to an organization and relied upon heavily as a rookie I think he'll really struggle, but if has time to develop skills and play against bench units in year 1, I think he has a chance to really pop down the line.

[TNRaps4life]

Another 0 assist game for Ace in 38 minutes, lmao. His season high in assists is... 1.

It's going to be so interesting to see how he pans out in the league. On one hand he's a tunnel vision, inefficient chucker who can't generate easy looks even at the college level or get to the rim... but the flashes of high level shot making are there.

So a taller Jalen Green

Jalen Green is uber athletic. Marvin Bagley seems like a more apt comparison?

Marvin that plays in the paint

[MessiahUjiri]

So a taller Jalen Green

Jalen Green is uber athletic. Marvin Bagley seems like a more apt comparison?

Marvin that plays in the paint

Jabari Smith and MPJ mix.

[PhilBlackson]

Yeah very unfortunately like most of this board, I've beyond cooled off of Ace too.

Of course loved what he APPEARED to be...a long athletic shooter which goes without saying would be an ideal fit IF that player is efficient in what they do which I thought might be the case as he started off shooting good percentage. But I thought it was gonna be a case where he just needed some time to come back from the early injury that he was going to catch a rhythm by being more selective with his shots, thought maybe he was forcing it a little to get himself going again, that he would show more cutting & running off of screens like you see from Gradey and over the course of the season slowly show some improvement in his handles to get to whatever "spots" that most players with good pull up jumpers have.

BUT that's obv NOT what happened and it's SUPER disappointing that he just seems to be reinforcing really bad habits ie/ just shooting almost any touch he gets and instead of thinking of how he can manipulate his footwork or angles to get cleaner looks. He truly shoots with irrational confidence which obv big time shot makers need...but he's not setting anything up like you see Tre Johnson (who I still love) do, he just seems to think he can take whatever shot he feels like and obv the worst part is the essentially creates total tunnel vision which in the end actually wouldn't be a good fit for what we do.

I still believe there can be hope for him in the league but he's truly gonna be a player that needs to land in the right place that's going to discipline him into a more willing passer & to be more selective with his shot something like how the Spurs did with a young Kawhi. I'm NOT comparing those 2 as players just the process/training that would be necessary to maximize him as a player.

I still think it would be possible here BUT there are so many other players now that I really like that I don't think would be anywhere near as difficult to iron out whatever kinks in their game and frankly I'm finding I'm becoming a lot more interested in players that seem to have great bball IQs like Egor, Harper, Jasp & Queen (I would include Flagg but he just feels like a pipedream ) that I think would just naturally blend in with what we do. Still really open to the idea of drafting Tre, Maluach or VJ but those first 4 are more ideal.

[Yallbecrazy]

Yeah very unfortunately like most of this board, I've beyond cooled off of Ace too.

Of course loved what he APPEARED to be...a long athletic shooter which goes without saying would be an ideal fit IF that player is efficient in what they do which I thought might be the case as he started off shooting good percentage. But I thought it was gonna be a case where he just needed some time to come back from the early injury that he was going to catch a rhythm by being more selective with his shots, thought maybe he was forcing it a little to get himself going again, that he would show more cutting & running off of screens like you see from Gradey and over the course of the season slowly show some improvement in his handles to get to whatever "spots" that most players with good pull up jumpers have.

BUT that's obv NOT what happened and it's SUPER disappointing that he just seems to be reinforcing really bad habits ie/ just shooting almost any touch he gets and instead of thinking of how he can manipulate his footwork or angles to get cleaner looks. He truly shoots with irrational confidence which obv big time shot makers need...but he's not setting anything up like you see Tre Johnson (who I still love) do, he just seems to think he can take whatever shot he feels like and obv the worst part is the essentially creates total tunnel vision which in the end actually wouldn't be a good fit for what we do.

I still believe there can be hope for him in the league but he's truly gonna be a player that needs to land in the right place that's going to discipline him into a more willing passer & to be more selective with his shot something like how the Spurs did with a young Kawhi. I'm NOT comparing those 2 as players just the process/training that would be necessary to maximize him as a player.

I still think it would be possible here BUT there are so many other players now that I really like that I don't think would be anywhere near as difficult to iron out whatever kinks in their game and frankly I'm finding I'm becoming a lot more interested in players that seem to have great bball IQs like Egor, Harper, Jasp & Queen (I would include Flagg but he just feels like a pipedream ) that I think would just naturally blend in with what we do. Still really open to the idea of drafting Tre, Maluach or VJ but those first 4 are more ideal.

High bbiq players don't bust much. What is high bbiq can be subjective, and while assist to turnover ratio is a good measurement, so are steals, and offensive rebounding, but stats can't measure it all.

Ace is definitely a boom/bust type player because he has a great skill, but if you look at the recent high non-centre picks with a ton of potential that busted a lot of them were scoring wings with poor assist to turnover ratios.

Kevin Durant seems to be the absolute best case scenario and even he has articles written about his impact being not nearly as good as it seems since his playmaking was avergish and he doesn't rebound so while he was considered a top 2 player in his prime his overall impact on winning was more of a top 10 guy.

[DreamTeam09]

Ace should definitely be our pick if he's on the board for us. Passing is the last thing I won't Ace doing if he was in our current starting lineup. Ideally I wanna run a
IQ/RJ/2025 SF/Barnes/Jakob next year.

Cooper Ace Egor/Maybe Tre Johnson fit that bill with the upside. Outside of those Mulach would be next up for us. I like VJ but wish he was taller and a better shooter. Queen and Riley would be on my board as well.
But if we don't get one of Cooper Ace Egor or Mulach I won't be too excited

[Yallbecrazy]

Ace should definitely be our pick if he's on the board for us. Passing is the last thing I won't Ace doing if he was in our current starting lineup. Ideally I wanna run a
IQ/RJ/2025 SF/Barnes/Jakob next year.

Cooper Ace Egor/Maybe Tre Johnson fit that bill with the upside. Outside of those Mulach would be next up for us. I like VJ but wish he was taller and a better shooter. Queen and Riley would be on my board as well.
But if we don't get one of Cooper Ace Egor or Mulach I won't be too excited

Ace doesn't fit the Raptors offense at all, as much as they need a pure scorer, they also need someone who can keep the ball moving and play within the offense most of the time.

[Mark_83]

For me Bailey is our guy if we pick high enough. He's got his warts (shot selection, lack of assists and playmaking, loose handle, low free throw attempts, etc) but he has arguably the highest ceiling in the draft, and he's the best fit for our roster. If you watch him, you can also see that a lot of his question marks stem from his biggest weakness, which is his handle.

He has difficulty attacking the rim in half-court sets because he can't handle the ball very well in traffic or and immediately picks up his dribble after 3-4 bounces if anyone digs or steps up on the help side. This in turn forces him to have to pull up early and shoot from wherever he is. The weak handle is also the source of his lack of assists and playmaking, just like it was for Brandon Miller at Bama. He has to play off the ball rather than being a primary initiator because he can't handle under pressure, luckily he doesn't have to with Dylan Harper in the picture.

If he improves his handle (which I believe he will under elite NBA trainers and with hard work, then he becomes a completely different player from the current iteration. It reminds me of Demar coming out of USC (not in terms of potential or playing style) but in terms of his ball-handling issues. Demar had terrible handles until about his 4th or 5th season in the NBA. He used to fumble the ball under pressure at crunch time all the time, which was so frustrating. Prior to his improvements in seasons 4 and 5 he was averaging two or fewer assists a game in the NBA and just 5 free throw attempts. Then from about 2013 on he was a consistent 4+ assist 7+ free throw attempts a game player, and a lot of it was due to him being more confident attacking the basket.

When I go back and look at his USC tape and numbers they're comparable in a lot of the same weak areas as Bailey.

33.4mins 0.6ast 2.3to 3.1ft
33.4mins 1.5ast 2.5to 4.2ft