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Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!!

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1661 » by ciueli » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:49 am

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Mikistan wrote:Man this thread has actually devolved into shirtless Suggs picks.. We can full circle from shirtless bargnani pix wow


Joey Graham muscle pic too lol

anyone wana feel old? joey graham just turned 39 years old.

In 2005, if anyone remembers, we wanted him and roko ukic. We ended up getting both with charlie V.

This forum was on fire cuz we passed on gerald green ... then 3 days later we all liked the draft after lol


I thought we were getting Danny Granger at the time, some sites like DraftExpress had him mocked in the top 10. Most of the board was unhappy when we drafted Charlie with our first pick, and then Danny was available with our second pick and I couldn't understand why so many teams passed on him... and then WE passed on him AGAIN!!!

He was only an All-Star once, but he was a lot better than Charlie and Joey, that's for sure, huge steal by the Pacers. That's what we got for having Babcock as our GM.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1662 » by S.W.A.N » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:50 am

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Only leaked footage of Mobley and...

Do yourself a favor...go to about 1:27 then hit pause...

Now look closer at that BACK DROP....what do you see????

Maybe I'm imagining things but it looks A LOT like a mural of LA transitioning through a "dinosaur" (perhaps a Raptor) with a "rocket" taking off in TORONTO. Tell me that ain't some next level conspiracy ish lmao

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His floater game is weak around the basket. Pretty bad touch there. Missing all those shots in the drill both sides.


Drove me nuts watching that. I'm like just use the freaking backboard! I also hate watching those drills without a defender in front of the player. This isn't middleschool. You never getting that shot uncontested. Practice the way you play.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1663 » by NotMyKawhi » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:59 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
Fast_Feets wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:

Only leaked footage of Mobley and...

Do yourself a favor...go to about 1:27 then hit pause...

Now look closer at that BACK DROP....what do you see????

Maybe I'm imagining things but it looks A LOT like a mural of LA transitioning through a "dinosaur" (perhaps a Raptor) with a "rocket" taking off in TORONTO. Tell me that ain't some next level conspiracy ish lmao

#ITABOUTTOBLASTOFF
#FROMCALI2THA6
#BRINGHIMHOME


His floater game is weak around the basket. Pretty bad touch there. Missing all those shots in the drill both sides.


Drove me nuts watching that. I'm like just use the freaking backboard! I also hate watching those drills without a defender in front of the player. This isn't middleschool. You never getting that shot uncontested. Practice the way you play.



This is the only leaked video of Mobley doing a workout?

They're trying to get him to fall to 4, no way he's that bad and his agent would be stupid to put this video out there
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1664 » by T-d0t » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:05 am

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no. Dean had barnes 2 suggs 3 cade 4

https://deanondraft.com/category/mock-drafts/


That might have been his board 3 weeks ago but if you listen to his thoughts today he has dropped Cade a few spots upon further review. And while he didn't say if he has Barnes or Suggs no.2, he has them both in his second tier after Mobley.

He's also very high on Sengun, still higher on him than Jalen Green while being very low on Davion Mitchell - says he slips to the 2nd round on his board.
His old takes are on the same page. He was super high on Dragan Bender and Marquise Chriss. Low on Jalen Brown. seems very 50/50 on his projections. BJ Boston before Kuminga? lol

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1665 » by hyper316 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:16 am

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S.W.A.N wrote:
Fast_Feets wrote:
His floater game is weak around the basket. Pretty bad touch there. Missing all those shots in the drill both sides.


Drove me nuts watching that. I'm like just use the freaking backboard! I also hate watching those drills without a defender in front of the player. This isn't middleschool. You never getting that shot uncontested. Practice the way you play.



This is the only leaked video of Mobley doing a workout?

They're trying to get him to fall to 4, no way he's that bad and his agent would be stupid to put this video out there


On the right side of the court, he was shooting with his left (off) hand
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1666 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:41 am

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Raps in 4 wrote:
That's probably one of the worst mocks I've seen in my life. Hollinger continues to be irrelevant.

It’s his board. Not a mock


I sometimes think he just runs a bunch of numbers and ignores how the raw tools can translate to a player's developing beyond what they are currently. This year is a weird one to take a lot from a limited sample size.

Based on 12 games he has Sharife Cooper at 29 ignoring his incredible talents to offensively influence the game, Kai Jones at 32 ignoring his incredible fluidity, motor and modern NBA skillset at the five. While a guy like Herb Jones is 23, and Jared Butler is 11 on his board over 5 spaces higher than Davion Mitchell.

I just don't get the feel that this guy really digs too deep at this stage in his life. He is just a stats guy.


And not a good one.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1667 » by MavCarter » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:43 am

Ok im fully back on the suggs bandwagon. Pls do not hurt me on draft night masai
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1668 » by Tofubeque » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:59 am

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NotMyKawhi wrote:This is when Mobley was a junior, wiseman a senior

That block at the beginning, dunked on wiseman too. Mobley was better than the #1 senior in the country when he was a junior. So was Cade, Jalen and kuminga too.


This draft is stacked, trust me



Miobley is a beast, I think I would take him #1 over Cade. The only knock on him i see is he doesnt have that FU attitude and wanting to kill people like Giannis.. more like a silent killer like OG and just goes about his business. Hopefully he develops that as he gains more confidence


After growing up watching bigs like Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan dominate, the 2 most outwardly different guys you could find, I'm not super concerned about what kind of personality he has. There's different ways to be great
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1670 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:01 am

ciueli wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Mikistan wrote:Man this thread has actually devolved into shirtless Suggs picks.. We can full circle from shirtless bargnani pix wow


Joey Graham muscle pic too lol

anyone wana feel old? joey graham just turned 39 years old.

In 2005, if anyone remembers, we wanted him and roko ukic. We ended up getting both with charlie V.

This forum was on fire cuz we passed on gerald green ... then 3 days later we all liked the draft after lol


I thought we were getting Danny Granger at the time, some sites like DraftExpress had him mocked in the top 10. Most of the board was unhappy when we drafted Charlie with our first pick, and then Danny was available with our second pick and I couldn't understand why so many teams passed on him... and then WE passed on him AGAIN!!!

He was only an All-Star once, but he was a lot better than Charlie and Joey, that's for sure, huge steal by the Pacers. That's what we got for having Babcock as our GM.


RIP but that man was so unprepared for everything he did as a GM. He picked Charlie when we already had Chris Bosh, with better talent like Granger on the board. He passed on the BPA and it wasn't even for a good fit!!

I remember Chuck Swirsky used to be on the radio every day, and he interviewed Babcock before the draft. As a parting word to the interview Chuck said "think Nate" in reference to Nate Robinson, and Babcock replied with "yes, I will be thinking about my son" who is currently a video coordinator for the Brooklyn Nets, Nate Babcock. :roll:
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1671 » by 720 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:02 am

MavCarter wrote:Ok im fully back on the suggs bandwagon. Pls do not hurt me on draft night masai

What brought you back to Team Suggs?
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1672 » by chimpston17 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:03 am

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At this point, I hope Neemias is still available when we draft in the 2nd round. Vids like this are starting to give him some buzz.

He's definitely a target, read on twitter that the Raptors scouts attended 6 of his games this year and worked him out yesterday I believe.


There absolutely must be a plan to get a pick in the high 20s. My guess - Lowry sign and trade to Lakers.

And if Neemias is the target (and he should be), Mobley probably isn't a target.

As Draymond once (erroneously) said ... "Fun times ahead".


I don't think who they might like as a 2nd round target dictates who they pick at 4, especially when that player at 4 might be a franchise caliber player. If Mobley falls, they take him
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1673 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:04 am

Read on Twitter



Notably, he has USC Trojans star big man Evan Mobley going fourth to the Toronto Raptors.

Is this a mild surprise? Perhaps, although we examined that the Raptors might be the best fit for Mobley as a player. On the other hand, Gleeson’s reasoning behind the pick makes a tremendous amount of sense.

“Mobley’s fallen down on this list because the three guards ahead of him offer more reward over risk. But this is a pick the Raptors just can’t pass up on. His shot blocking ability, length and size position him to make an impact right away for Toronto. He has potential as a long-term All-Star at the big man position but he’ll need to bulk up to have better strength against NBA bigs.”


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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1674 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:16 am

If the Cavs move Sexton, I could see Mobley drop to 4. I think it's likely if they move Sexton.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1675 » by Kreamy » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:19 am

He's definitely going to be there at 4. Willing to bet on it. Cade, Green and Suggs are sexier picks and will have a much bigger impact right away.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1676 » by tdotrep2 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:20 am

if the cavs are trynna move off of sexton i wouldnt be shocked if they go for suggs. suggs and garland would be a dynamic backcourt for the next 10 years.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1677 » by DelAbbot » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:21 am

WuTang_OG wrote:


So at the end of the video, he talks about Mobley not having the "motor" or desire to exert himself at times. Is that not a big red flag?
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1678 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:24 am

Mobley @ 4. P-----lease...
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1679 » by MainEvent » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:27 am

tdotrep2 wrote:if the cavs are trynna move off of sexton i wouldnt be shocked if they go for suggs. suggs and garland would be a dynamic backcourt for the next 10 years.


Plus getting a winner and leader would be huge for the cavs
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#1680 » by tecumseh18 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:27 am

chimpston17 wrote:
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DG88 wrote:He's definitely a target, read on twitter that the Raptors scouts attended 6 of his games this year and worked him out yesterday I believe.


There absolutely must be a plan to get a pick in the high 20s. My guess - Lowry sign and trade to Lakers.

And if Neemias is the target (and he should be), Mobley probably isn't a target.

As Draymond once (erroneously) said ... "Fun times ahead".


I don't think who they might like as a 2nd round target dictates who they pick at 4, especially when that player at 4 might be a franchise caliber player. If Mobley falls, they take him


Oh if Mobley drops to #4, of course. 100%. I'm just saying that if Masai has a plan to acquire a pick to grab Neemias, then he's probably not going to also expend assets to move up to draft Mobley.

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