Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[Asif16]

Holmes and Bagley not playing, their contracts amount to ~21 mil.

What do you guys think? lol

I already put it out there today: Dragic and Flynn for Holmes and Bagley

What the hell we gonna do with that many bigs??

[Tor_Raps]

Holmes and Bagley not playing, their contracts amount to ~21 mil.

What do you guys think? lol

I already put it out there today: Dragic and Flynn for Holmes and Bagley

I wonder if Management is asking Gary about Bagley. Maybe he can give them some insight from their college days.

Trent Sr mentioned in his interview with Will Lou the other day that the reason Trent Jr got drafted in the 2nd round was because his college team featured Bagley and Grayson more and that we all see how that's played out.

It's not major but still a bit of indirect shade lol.

[Zeno]

svi's salary would not affect the salary cap at all because he is signed to a minimum contract

minimum salaries count against the tax.

Not when they are traded

I don't follow. sorry. Right now we are basically right at the tax and therefore can't sign a 15th guy. Gordon plus Kenny Hustle's salary is basically even. So we'd still be in the same spot unless we throw in Svi or someone similar. Teams dump minimum guys on other teams all the time in trade to get under the tax. There will be multiple of those types of trades in the next day and a half. Happens every year.

[dgr81]

minimum salaries count against the tax.

Not when they are traded

I don't follow. sorry. Right now we are basically right at the tax and therefore can't sign a 15th guy. Gordon plus Kenny Hustle's salary is basically even. So we'd still be in the same spot unless we throw in Svi or someone similar. Teams dump minimum guys on other teams all the time in trade to get under the tax. There will be multiple of those types of trades in the next day and a half. Happens every year.

there is a minimum salary exception but I am probably wrong, and receiving minimum salary players won't affect the other teams cap.

My bad

[WuTang_CMB]

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[dgr81]

I had it backwards

The exception also accommodates teams’ acquisitions of minimum-salary players via trade, as players signed via the minimum salary exception don’t count as incoming salary for salary-matching purposes.

[gerrit4]

Not when they are traded

I don't follow. sorry. Right now we are basically right at the tax and therefore can't sign a 15th guy. Gordon plus Kenny Hustle's salary is basically even. So we'd still be in the same spot unless we throw in Svi or someone similar. Teams dump minimum guys on other teams all the time in trade to get under the tax. There will be multiple of those types of trades in the next day and a half. Happens every year.

there is a minimum salary exception but I am probably wrong, and receiving minimum salary players won't affect the other teams cap.

My bad

I could be wrong here, but I was under the impression that minimum players don’t affect the cap, but do affect the tax. Considering we are in the tax (barely) right now, we need to shed some salary to get under. That could be done with a buyout of Dragic, or by shedding a low salary.

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[StopitLeo]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

What do you mean by ours being too good? Just protect the pick.

Eric Gordon would be really great off the bench and he can be a good defender in our system. Only one year guaranteed on his deal after this.

Dragic, Flynn, 2023 first round pick (lottery protected)

Houston saves around $16M next year, gets a young player in Flynn, and gets another first round pick in 2023 (they already have two firsts in 2022).

We keep this years first round pick to continue the re-build and anticipate being better next year such that the 2023 pick will be in the 20s.

[Zeno]

Not when they are traded

I don't follow. sorry. Right now we are basically right at the tax and therefore can't sign a 15th guy. Gordon plus Kenny Hustle's salary is basically even. So we'd still be in the same spot unless we throw in Svi or someone similar. Teams dump minimum guys on other teams all the time in trade to get under the tax. There will be multiple of those types of trades in the next day and a half. Happens every year.

there is a minimum salary exception but I am probably wrong, and receiving minimum salary players won't affect the other teams cap.

My bad

No problem, you had me questioning myself. lol. I think the confusion is between the tax threshold and the cap. All salary counts against the tax if it is on your books at the end of the season. But you are correct that teams don't need to match minimum salaries in trade because their is a cap exception for them.

[Tor_Raps]

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Who is this no blue checkmark guy and should we take him seriously?

[Zeno]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

What do you mean by ours being too good? Just protect the pick.

Eric Gordon would be really great off the bench and he can be a good defender in our system. Only one year guaranteed on his deal after this.

Dragic, Flynn, 2023 first round pick (lottery protected)

Houston saves around $16M next year, gets a young player in Flynn, and gets another first round pick in 2023 (they already have two firsts in 2022).

We keep this years first round pick to continue the re-build and anticipate being better next year such that the 2023 pick will be in the 20s.

Protected picks roll over to the next year and hamper what you can do going forward. Gordon is too old to give up a pick 15-25 in my opinion. That's why I suggested flipping it to OKC for something and the Suns' 1st which will be 30th most likely and then sending it for Gordon.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Who is this no blue checkmark guy and should we take him seriously?

no idea lol

[RedVanVleet]

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Why in gods green earth would Wizards...

[Pointgod]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

What do you mean by ours being too good? Just protect the pick.

Eric Gordon would be really great off the bench and he can be a good defender in our system. Only one year guaranteed on his deal after this.

Dragic, Flynn, 2023 first round pick (lottery protected)

Houston saves around $16M next year, gets a young player in Flynn, and gets another first round pick in 2023 (they already have two firsts in 2022).

We keep this years first round pick to continue the re-build and anticipate being better next year such that the 2023 pick will be in the 20s.

God I’d loathe to give up a fist round pick for Gordon. Dude is overrated as hell. He’s basically a good scorer and creator, but he’s never healthy and he’s a streaky shooter. I put his value the same as Evan Fournier last year, an expiring and 2 seconds. I’m fine with throwing in Flynn ad well.

[Tor_Raps]

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Who is this no blue checkmark guy and should we take him seriously?

no idea lol

You get my hopes up when you make these posts man lol.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

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Who is this no blue checkmark guy and should we take him seriously?

There's a lot of morons with the checkmarks like Grange and our crack media guys so i don't think it matters

[MikeM]

We're not giving up a 1st for a 30+ bench gunner.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Houston wants a 1st for Gordon but our is too good for that. OKC has the Suns 1st and has a ton of space. Maybe we send Dragic and our pick to OKC for someone (probably not getting Dort but maybe Kenrich Williams) and OKC sends Suns 1st to Houston to get us Gordon. Need to send Houston Svi to make room for 15th spot under the tax.

So Dragic, Svi and 1st for Gordon,Kenrich Williams

What do you mean by ours being too good? Just protect the pick.

Eric Gordon would be really great off the bench and he can be a good defender in our system. Only one year guaranteed on his deal after this.

Dragic, Flynn, 2023 first round pick (lottery protected)

Houston saves around $16M next year, gets a young player in Flynn, and gets another first round pick in 2023 (they already have two firsts in 2022).

We keep this years first round pick to continue the re-build and anticipate being better next year such that the 2023 pick will be in the 20s.

Gordon's not worth that much and Zach Lowe concurs in his recent podcast when talking about the raptors. Especially because of how well the raptors draft.
I don't mind attaching a srp to get a deal done but thats the most I would offer

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Why in gods green earth would Wizards...

I'm more curious what in the hell could the Wiz offer besides Beal that would be enough to nab Collins from them?!