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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1661 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:41 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:First time watching film on Jarace Walker and I see Jermi Grant 2.0. Probably more physical inside and probably slightly bigger.

Ino you might think that tanking for J.Grant 2.0 isn't all that appealing, but how many lotto picks become that good to begin with?

Walkers definitely top5 conversation


He's like Jerami Grant in Isaiah Stewarts body.
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Post#1662 » by Jstock12 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:07 pm

Brinbe wrote:i don't think brandon miller is like paul george at all. doesn't have the same athleticism, so don't quite get that comparison.

honestly, all i see whenver i watch him is paul pierce. who was still a bucket-getter despite not having the most burst or jump compared to others during his era. which is still pretty damn good.


That's great cause I'd take Pierce over George any day of the week!
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1663 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:13 pm

I get Jabari Parker vibes with Miller, but at least he defends. He's a no doubter top 5 pick, but that's also because no one's really establishing themselves and no one knows what to make of the Thompsons.
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Post#1664 » by HumbleRen » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:35 pm

Carson Wallace is really growing on me.

Just an extremely elite perimeter defender that plays a 3&D role at the PG spot. If we start to drop due to winning games, I can see the Raps going for him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1665 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:50 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Carson Wallace is really growing on me.

Just an extremely elite perimeter defender that plays a 3&D role at the PG spot. If we start to drop due to winning games, I can see the Raps going for him.


I do like Wallace quite a bit.

The issue with him is he's a classic Raptor pick so he's exactly the type of guy we SHOULDN'T be selecting, especially with a Top 6 or 7 pick, as long as we remain in that area of the draft.

More than anything, I think the Raps need break the defense first mold and go for a guy who can score the ball in as many ways as possible.

But I do think Wallace is going to be a good player in the league for a long time.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1666 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:48 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Anyone else like Marcus Sasser?

Dude is incredibly toolsy and could be a good kid to develop in the 905.



Would 100% rather have him on the team than Flynn that's for sure.


Didn't take the jump I thought he might, and his percentages inside the arc are meh, but I like his defense and aggressiveness (though his finishing needs work), so I'd def consider him in the mid to late second round. I think he's a sg in a pg body. Would take him higher if his pg skills were a little better


Some of his numbers are kinda like what Van Vleet posts when you look at his fg%, 3ptfg%, fta, stls, ft% not far off. Which isn't necessarily a good thing LOL. But it speaks to his profile as a defensive specialist who can handle the ball well and knock down rhythm 3s. We're gonna need some guards to stuff the bench with next year.
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Post#1667 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:00 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:First time watching film on Jarace Walker and I see Jermi Grant 2.0. Probably more physical inside and probably slightly bigger.

Ino you might think that tanking for J.Grant 2.0 isn't all that appealing, but how many lotto picks become that good to begin with?

Walkers definitely top5 conversation
Agreed. Jarace is starting to separate himself from the pack. I think you now have to include him in the same tier as guys like Brandon Miller and Keyonte George. I'd say those 3 are the second tier guys after Scoot and Wemby.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1668 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:03 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:I get Jabari Parker vibes with Miller, but at least he defends. He's a no doubter top 5 pick, but that's also because no one's really establishing themselves and no one knows what to make of the Thompsons.

Jabari Parker? Miller has a totally different style. If you mean he's a likely bust, there's risk with most of these guys, it always possible. Its about reducing the risk. Miller can at least shoot the 3 at a high rate at 6'9.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1669 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:27 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:I get Jabari Parker vibes with Miller, but at least he defends. He's a no doubter top 5 pick, but that's also because no one's really establishing themselves and no one knows what to make of the Thompsons.

Jabari Parker? Miller has a totally different style. If you mean he's a likely bust, there's risk with most of these guys, it always possible. Its about reducing the risk. Miller can at least shoot the 3 at a high rate at 6'9.


Maybe he meant Jabari Smith? :reporter: Smith with less shot-blocking but more handles.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1670 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:40 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:I get Jabari Parker vibes with Miller, but at least he defends. He's a no doubter top 5 pick, but that's also because no one's really establishing themselves and no one knows what to make of the Thompsons.

Jabari Parker? Miller has a totally different style. If you mean he's a likely bust, there's risk with most of these guys, it always possible. Its about reducing the risk. Miller can at least shoot the 3 at a high rate at 6'9.


Maybe he meant Jabari Smith? :reporter: Smith with less shot-blocking but more handles.

Smith is very young, on a very bad team. Better upside defensively, limited shot creation. Not sure what people were expecting. 6 '10 plus defender, good shooter. He slots into a #3 option role nicely. Not everyone has to be #1 guy.
Miller has more creation, better handles, especially in 3 levels. But he's slightly older.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1671 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:12 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Jabari Parker? Miller has a totally different style. If you mean he's a likely bust, there's risk with most of these guys, it always possible. Its about reducing the risk. Miller can at least shoot the 3 at a high rate at 6'9.


Maybe he meant Jabari Smith? :reporter: Smith with less shot-blocking but more handles.

Smith is very young, on a very bad team. Better upside defensively, limited shot creation. Not sure what people were expecting. 6 '10 plus defender, good shooter. He slots into a #3 option role nicely. Not everyone has to be #1 guy.
Miller has more creation, better handles, especially in 3 levels. But he's slightly older.


This is why my scouting on Walker Kessler was spot on. :nod:

Well beyond the top 2, we shouldn't be expecting anything beyond, Jabari Smith, Jalen Green, Scottie Barnes, Franz Wagner, etc.

Just have to dodge the Wiseman's and Kuminga's. :D Eff the Warriors!!! :lol:
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

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Post#1673 » by Mark_83 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 1:50 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Carson Wallace is really growing on me.

Just an extremely elite perimeter defender that plays a 3&D role at the PG spot. If we start to drop due to winning games, I can see the Raps going for him.

Would love to get another pick to get him. He'd be a perfect fit given we want Scottie to have the ball in his hands.
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Post#1674 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:17 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:Carson Wallace is really growing on me.

Just an extremely elite perimeter defender that plays a 3&D role at the PG spot. If we start to drop due to winning games, I can see the Raps going for him.

Would love to get another pick to get him. He'd be a perfect fit given we want Scottie to have the ball in his hands.


If they don't move up, will be drafting at #8 and Tankathon has Cason Wallace at #10. He's been back to playing well the last 5 games.



He's going up in the air with 2 hands with great position and then swatting guys that are taller than him. He seems like slightly less than Scoot in terms of scoring and passing but a better defender like a Jrue / Marcus Smart.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1675 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:40 pm

Having a lockdown defender at the point is so valuable. Once your first line of defense gets blown by the entire defense collapses.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1676 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:58 pm

Love Wallace but like I've said before - I think we need a creator.

However, I actually think Wallace has more in his offensive bag than we've seen so far and can also develop to be a solid offensive player.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1677 » by Mark_83 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:10 pm

Anyone got any rudimentary analytics numbers for players in this draft? Our front offense tends to weight a number of factors highly including character/makeup/maturity, defense, analytics, size and length.
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Post#1678 » by ItsDanger » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:16 pm

Lively's stock has fallen a lot, but he offers similar potential to Claxton who people are overrating. Probably goes in 30-40 range. Got dominated by Edey earlier in the season but at least he showed up and didn't back down.

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Post#1679 » by Karanpal » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:22 pm

What do people see in jarace walker I've watched a couples games and I wasnt Impressed. He does nothing at an elite level his defense is overated . He has a low block rate and his stls are exaggerated with the defense Houston plays . I've seen him get blown by multiple times on defense . Has ball. Handling skill so to me he's not a wing and he plays kinda soft. What skill is going to transfer to the pros I can only see his passing which is pretty solid ? I just feel taking him in the top 10 is a waste. But at the same everyone after the top 3 has major flaws
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1680 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:28 pm

Will be funny when we trade for Claxton and then score Wemby *reversejinx*

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