Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2

LoveMyRaps · Post #1661 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:24 am

PushDaRock wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:

Read on Twitter

Scottie wants Lauri...

Get er done Masai.

Why wouldn't the Pacers just get Markkanen themselves?

They'd have to deplete their team.
We can add more assets and picks going to Utah.

Chalky_White · Post #1662 » by **Chalky_White** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:25 am

Risk101 wrote:If this deal goes down are we waiving the white flag on this season.

Probably develop Scottie and IQ more I guess.

Was hoping theyd get some decent wing/POA defenders who can shoot from a Siakam trade.

Wonder if ATL still wants to shed salary if they would be down for a bruce Brown - Deandre Hunter swap?

Scase · Post #1663 » by **Scase** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:31 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:

Read on Twitter

Scottie wants Lauri...

Get er done Masai.

Why wouldn't the Pacers just get Markkanen themselves?

They'd have to deplete their team.
We can add more assets and picks going to Utah.

Lol what? They are giving up 3 frps, a prospect and 2 players, while we are giving up 2 expiring UFAs and a pick we might not even be allowed trading. What are you talking about.

PushDaRock · Post #1664 » by **PushDaRock** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:32 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:

Read on Twitter

Scottie wants Lauri...

Get er done Masai.

Why wouldn't the Pacers just get Markkanen themselves?

They'd have to deplete their team.
We can add more assets and picks going to Utah.

In what way? All they're getting from us is Trent and a 1st rounder. That would hardly take anything from their end to improve asset wise.

Chalky_White · Post #1665 » by **Chalky_White** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:32 am

Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Ya outside the fanbase people find it insane the Pacers would give up 3 firsts in a Siakam trade.

Appostis · Post #1666 » by **Appostis** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:50 am

Chalky_White wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Ya outside the fanbase people find it insane the Pacers would give up 3 firsts in a Siakam trade.

Or people on the GB are simply undervalue Pascal *shrug*

BramptonYute · Post #1667 » by **BramptonYute** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:54 am

Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Combo of the GB undervaluing pascal and this board overvaluing him.

PushDaRock · Post #1668 » by **PushDaRock** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:57 am

Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Not a surprise really, people think he's turning 30 so must be washed up soon. He actually has a lot less mileage than most 30 year olds that are star level though because he got a late start to Basketball as well as coming into the league at 22 instead of 19 and 20 like most do on top of his first 2 years as a role player. I wouldn't love a 5 year deal but a 4 year should work out fine, because you only need 3 good years out of him as the 4th year ends up being an expiring and probably gives him neutral value at worst even if injuries or his play dramatically falls off.

Tor_Raps · Post #1669 » by **Tor_Raps** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:01 am

BramptonYute wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Combo of the GB undervaluing pascal and this board overvaluing him.

People get excited to hear 3 1st round picks but when you look closer, it's 2 late 1sts in a weak ass draft that we already traded a top 6 protected pick away in.

BramptonYute · Post #1670 » by **BramptonYute** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:04 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
BramptonYute wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Combo of the GB undervaluing pascal and this board overvaluing him.

People get excited to hear 3 1st round picks but when you look closer, it's 2 late 1sts in a weak ass draft that we already traded a top 6 pick away in.

His contract situation really killed his value.

They shoulda moved on last season.

Zeno · Post #1671 » by **Zeno** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:05 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
BramptonYute wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Interesting how most people on the General board like this deal for the Raptore and most people here hate it. Just goes to show you the perception of the trade.

Combo of the GB undervaluing pascal and this board overvaluing him.

People get excited to hear 3 1st round picks but when you look closer, it's 2 late 1sts in a weak ass draft that we already traded a top 6 pick away in.

It is not a top 6 pick, it can’t be a top 6.

VancouverRaps · Post #1672 » by **VancouverRaps** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:07 am

Yeah the non-Raps fans I know think this is an overpay by the Pacers lol

Tor_Raps · Post #1673 » by **Tor_Raps** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:09 am

Zeno wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
BramptonYute wrote:Combo of the GB undervaluing pascal and this board overvaluing him.

People get excited to hear 3 1st round picks but when you look closer, it's 2 late 1sts in a weak ass draft that we already traded a top 6 pick away in.

It is not a top 6 pick, it can’t be a top 6.

My bad... top 6 protected

ItsDanger · Post #1674 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:39 am

StopitLeo wrote:djsunyc made an interesting point in the latest Pacer rumor thread. Most people would probably be happy if it was:

og for brown + 3 frps
pascal for iq + rj + detroit 2nd

Uhh, no.

Mister Ze · Post #1675 » by **Mister Ze** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:45 am

Kings are falling apart . Look for them to make a last shot effort at Siakam

ItsDanger · Post #1676 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:49 am

If they're doing a pick package, maybe other teams can provide better picks. The appeal with Indiana was maybe landing Walker. If thats not available, the word is now out and other teams can top it if they so choose.

CazOnReal · Post #1677 » by **CazOnReal** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:10 am

VancouverRaps wrote:Yeah the non-Raps fans I know think this is an overpay by the Pacers lol

Fanbases in general overvalue picks in trades

Especially without knowing the year or protections? This is premature, frankly.

Raps in 4 · Post #1678 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 am

With Sacramento reeling, I wonder how long Murray will be untouchable for.

ArthurVandelay · Post #1679 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:39 am

Next we get the Pacers walk away

Followed by Masai keeps asking for more

Followed by widespread hysteria that Masai and Bobby are trash

Mattatron · Post #1680 » by **Mattatron** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:58 am

Scase wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Why wouldn't the Pacers just get Markkanen themselves?

They'd have to deplete their team.
We can add more assets and picks going to Utah.

Lol what? They are giving up 3 frps, a prospect and 2 players, while we are giving up 2 expiring UFAs and a pick we might not even be allowed trading. What are you talking about.

Pretty shortsighted move to re-route the assets we get back for Lauri/Murray or whatever, that would been a panic move par excellence.
We don't even know how we work with IQ, RJ and SB4, that would be a all-in move, and too much of a gamble.