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Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7)

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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1681 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:06 am

RaptorsLife wrote:not saying there same kind of player but reminds of deandre jordan. young with incredible length and decent freshman numbers who gets choosen late first or early 2nd round doesnt add up. hope we pick him
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RaptorsLife wrote:i dont know why people are obssesed with skal but not talking about the beast diamond stone. 6~10 7-3 wingspan 255 pounds decent numbers in his first year much better skal numbers nimble feet. 19 year old. tough Kentrick perkins with a offensive game is his floor. one on one diamond would abuse skal


His stats, age, measurements are all similar or better then Dayonte Davis yet he is mocked in the second round somehow


Deandre Jordan has a 9'5" standing reach to go along with a 30 inch vertical. He also has Chris Paul or Blake Griffin throwing him lobs every 5 seconds.
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1682 » by Lukeem » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:17 am

sweetcity wrote:wouldn't mine an early 2nd round pick for Caris Lavert, this guy is very talented... greater shooter and has wing length.

Bender and Lavert are my two guys in this draft. Worst case Skal and Lavert


If the medical staff had any confidence in him I'd consider him at 9 and have him locked in promised at 27. I'm not a doctor but I know his history doesn't bode well though so who knows.
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1683 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:22 am

Thomas Walkup is an analytical beast. If only he wasn't turning 24 in December he'd probably be a first rounder with lottery potential. He's pretty lowly ranked at this point but I can't see a reason to buy a pick in the 50-60 range and use it on this guy. The worst case scenario is you stash him in Europe until he's 26-27 and bring him over with an improved jumper, elevated knowledge, skills and feel for the game.

Look at some of these numbers:

PER: 35.7
TS%: 0.66
FG%: 58.5
PPG: 18.6
RPG: 6.8
APG: 4.5
SPG: 2.1
FTA: 6.3


In the tournament he went for 33/9/4/4 against West Virginia and made 19/20 FTA's. Then followed it up by going 21/5/5 against Notre Dame but lost on a buzzer beater.

This kid almost led freakin' Stephen F. Austin to the Sweet 16.
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Post#1684 » by Kinger95 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:47 am

I was very suprized to see how well spoken Chriss is for someone who's not even 19 yet. Compared to Deyonta Davis he's pretty much a brain surgeon lol. He's really grown on me. He's got the size and athleticism to be elite. The only bigs in the league more athletic than him would be Griffin, Anthony Davis and Aaron Gordon
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1685 » by raptor jesus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:57 am

deeps6x wrote:Please don't let us go with Casey's guy again.

We can't have another Ross over Drummond fiasco.


Yeah.. let's not pin that one on Casey. BC admitted to passing on Drummond because of his mental makeup, so it was more principle based. Plus he wanted a wing shooter to appeal to Nash.
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1686 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:03 am

Kinger95 wrote:I was very suprized to see how well spoken Chriss is for someone who's not even 19 yet. Compared to Deyonta Davis he's pretty much a brain surgeon lol. He's really grown on me. He's got the size and athleticism to be elite. The only bigs in the league more athletic than him would be Griffin, Anthony Davis and Aaron Gordon


Yea it probably won't have anything to do with his future success, but Chriss was as impressive in the DX interview video as it gets, just had that it factor on the mic.

Deyonta is apparently the quietest person people have ever met, though that could also mean he has Kawhi's personality http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/03/deyonta_davis_michigan_state.html
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1687 » by Kinger95 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:09 am

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Kinger95 wrote:I was very suprized to see how well spoken Chriss is for someone who's not even 19 yet. Compared to Deyonta Davis he's pretty much a brain surgeon lol. He's really grown on me. He's got the size and athleticism to be elite. The only bigs in the league more athletic than him would be Griffin, Anthony Davis and Aaron Gordon


Yea it probably won't have anything to do with his future success, but Chriss was as impressive in the DX interview video as it gets, just had that it factor on the mic.

Deyonta is apparently the quietest person people have ever met, though that could also mean he has Kawhi's personality http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/03/deyonta_davis_michigan_state.html


Being quiet is fine, it's the answer that Deyonta gave saying he just wants to stick in the league to get a 2nd contract that worries me. The mental aspect of the game is huge and that shows he's really focused on getting paid which reflects poorly on how well he might fit in with the other guys. Plus it shows he's not even smart enough to know what the teams are wanting to hear/not wanting to hear in the interviews, which is either immaturity, being unprepared or not caring
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Post#1688 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:11 am

With the 9th pick in the 2016 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select.... THON MAKER















You immediately ___________?
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1689 » by omar36 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:26 am

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omar36 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/745294199046672384[/tweet]

well we know masai keeps it close to the vest so we may be in that as well but, seems like all these teams want ready players.

we do have some assets for trade --> ross/delon
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Ross, Bebe come to mind. You don't trade Delon one year out unless your picking Baldwin.


oh im not advocating for that, im just saying our biggest assets (outside those that are important) right now would be delon/ross and somewhat bebe.

id prefer to trade ross and give more mins to delon
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Post#1690 » by TdotBasketball » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:26 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:With the 9th pick in the 2016 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select.... THON MAKER















You immediately ___________?



what if the commissioner says Thong Maker that would break the internet in my opinion :lol: :lol:
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Re: Thank Nation! Raps pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 7) 

Post#1691 » by Harold_and_Kumar » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:28 am

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McGregFan wrote:Having so many teams shopping their pick ahead of us might make it difficult for masai to trade it for really good value. Im not even expecting us to trade the pick tbh


It depends though.

Boston for example really has no reason to keep all their picks, so it may make sense for them to package 23/31/35 for 9. The teams ahead of us may not value having more picks and may want more playable talent in order to improve more quickly, while conversely we may value an extra late pick and two picks at the beginning of the second round because we wouldn't have to add guaranteed contracts, can utilize the 905, and may get a Norm anyways who comes in to start by the end of the season.

It's so hard to know without knowing what the teams ahead of us are wanting.


Lol sorry what? You want to use #9 to move down to #23 & #31? you must be joking because that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in months. Congrats.


Harsh lol. I was replying to someone saying that the other picks for sale in the top 8 may diminish the value of our pick, and implied that Boston would be looking for a package to consolidate because they have so many picks (and yes I still see the perceived irony considering I'm suggesting we do the opposite), but that it may be attractive to us moreso than other teams because of our D-League affiliate and the nature of this draft. Like I said in a post the page before, I wouldn't be surprised to see Masai trade 9 for a combo of a first in next year's draft, a near-starting caliber PF, and/or second rounders. With two early seconds, Boston is the perfect team to trade with (sans the whole in-division part).

If Masai thought there was someone he could nab by trading up, I'd obviously prefer that. Personally, my view of the draft is that unless someone drops, I'm not all that enamored with our options at 9. With the way it stands, it's looking more like we can nab some good talent in the late teens, twenties and even in the early second round. My primary reason for posting this was to mention that second rounders carry no risk for us, and with our D-League affiliate in place it allows us to develop seconds in our system with our coaches. If Masai truly believes the talent in the teens and twenties extend into the early second round, for us, an early second is probably better than a late first where we are tied to a guaranteed contract.

Ultimately, I want us to lie, cheat and steal for second rounders was my point because they presently carry more value for us than many other teams.
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Post#1692 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:34 am

TdotBasketball wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:With the 9th pick in the 2016 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select.... THON MAKER















You immediately ___________?



what if the commissioner says Thong Maker that would break the internet in my opinion :lol:

That just secures countless sexy endorsement deals for young Thong.
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Post#1693 » by Boogie! » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:40 am

its odd to me how the celtics are pushing hard to acquire butler, middleton, parker and hayward, but have no interest in demar derozan, who is actually an all-star and is supposed to be better than all of them... why is demar not worth a 3rd overall pick? they're all around the same age as well, except for parker who's significantly younger...
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Post#1694 » by navyblue » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:01 am

Just heard on an ESPN podcast that no top 12ish prospects have chosen to workout for the kings. Chances are good they might trade or go off the board to select someone. Ie Baldwin.
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Post#1695 » by omar36 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:43 am

Boogie! wrote:its odd to me how the celtics are pushing hard to acquire butler, middleton, parker and hayward, but have no interest in demar derozan, who is actually an all-star and is supposed to be better than all of them... why is demar not worth a 3rd overall pick? they're all around the same age as well, except for parker who's significantly younger...


um cause hes a ufa? he can outright sign with them and if they want to give him the max, im sure one of their other picks will get the job done.

u dont trade a top 3 pick to get the rights to give a player like demar 3-4 million more per year lol
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Post#1696 » by navyblue » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:47 am

omar36 wrote:
Boogie! wrote:its odd to me how the celtics are pushing hard to acquire butler, middleton, parker and hayward, but have no interest in demar derozan, who is actually an all-star and is supposed to be better than all of them... why is demar not worth a 3rd overall pick? they're all around the same age as well, except for parker who's significantly younger...


um cause hes a ufa? he can outright sign with them and if they want to give him the max, im sure one of their other picks will get the job done.

u dont trade a top 3 pick to get the rights to give a player like demar 3-4 million more per year lol
actually there is no benefit to doing a s&t. The max salary demar can get as a free agent is the same salary he can qualify for in a s&t. Only way he gets 5th year and 7.5% raises is he stays with Toronto. In free agency and s&t most he can get is 4 years and 4.5% raises.
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Post#1697 » by Wally West » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:21 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Thomas Walkup is an analytical beast. If only he wasn't turning 24 in December he'd probably be a first rounder with lottery potential. He's pretty lowly ranked at this point but I can't see a reason to buy a pick in the 50-60 range and use it on this guy. The worst case scenario is you stash him in Europe until he's 26-27 and bring him over with an improved jumper, elevated knowledge, skills and feel for the game.

Look at some of these numbers:

PER: 35.7
TS%: 0.66
FG%: 58.5
PPG: 18.6
RPG: 6.8
APG: 4.5
SPG: 2.1
FTA: 6.3


In the tournament he went for 33/9/4/4 against West Virginia and made 19/20 FTA's. Then followed it up by going 21/5/5 against Notre Dame but lost on a buzzer beater.

This kid almost led freakin' Stephen F. Austin to the Sweet 16.

For some strange reason, I really like him. He can score and it's not like he did it against weak competition in the tourney and he can pass out of the point guard position which is an indicator or almost zero bust potential. I think he gets drafted. You can sign me up.
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Post#1698 » by Wally West » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:23 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:With the 9th pick in the 2016 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select.... THON MAKER















You immediately ___________?

Scream at the top of my lungs. Then dance with glee! Wait, I can't dance... :nonono:
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Post#1699 » by ballislife » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:42 am

If we get Sabonis at 9 and Stone at 27, our front court is set for the future... we get Sabonis (who I think will be a better Scola, and Stone, who can be a more versatile Biyombo).

Sabonis has a lot of potential to be one of the best bigs in the league (especially under Casey), and he can contribute now by rebounding and hitting shots. Mr.Diamond Stone can come in and help to rebound, block shots and hit open J's... those guys are basically Scola/Biyombo on drugs. If we get them in the draft, we're going to be better. Stone has the desire to be great.. as does Sabonis. They could be amazing additions if we're fortunate enough to get them together with JV and Patt.

We need the front court depth... this draft can give us that. We're set right now with Lowry/DBo/CoJo/Powell/Carroll with our back-court rotation. JV/Sabonis/Patterson/Stone would solidify our front-court rotation. That front-court has potential to rebound/block shots/score from the perimeter. That potential unit as a whole can possibly be devastating, because there's versatility all over the court.

I can't wait to see what happens on Thursday honestly. This is a pivotal offseason for this franchise. We can actually get this team into contention if we draft/trade well.
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Post#1700 » by BCbudraptorfan » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:48 am

brice johnson from nc would be a steal at 27 if he drops, reminds me of kenyon martin

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