2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[CazOnReal]

Lol all of us saying the same thing to the guy.

Clint Capela 2.0 good value though; let's not forget that Clint was a damn DPoY candidate for a few years.

Also let's not kid our selves: We will ask Missi to take 3s. Even if it's only like JV where it's 1-2 a game, it's going to be something we'll ask him to work on. I'd view him more as what it'd be like if Siakam was actually a center instead of just playing it for like 2-3 seasons, minus Pascal's playmaking. You don't really expect Pascal to be chucking up 3s since his footwork in the paint is spectacular but you do have to at least guard him so he's not getting easy looks.

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We've drafted like, one Canadian over the past 5 drafts, this is a complete lie. Hell, Banton didn't even get a QO from us, he's gone!

Forreal, have we even drafted a Canadian player with a Top 20 pick or am I just forgetting someone obvious?

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Still think Missi is one of the targets at 19

still a long ways a way from contributing but i feel TOR will love the high motor and upside

In this aggregate mock draft scenario, New York lands Baylor center Yves Missi, who could be a needed frontcourt addition with Hartenstein and Precious Achiuwa eligible for restricted free agency.

“I think I’ll bring energy and do whatever it takes to win, in general,” Missi told HoopsHype at the NBA Draft Combine in Chicago. “I’ll run the floor, set screens, block shots, and get rebounds.”

Missi also believes some misconceptions about his game aren’t true.

“Maybe putting the ball on the floor,” Missi told HoopsHype. “That’s something I think I did a decent job at in the second part of the year. I’ve also been working on my shot.”

I hope not...I'm not interested in Capela 2.0 at all.

Why not? Capela was a good player in his heyday. It’s just at 32 you can’t rely as much on his athleticism.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I hope not...I'm not interested in Capela 2.0 at all.

at 19 that's still decent value

Sure but there's plenty of names that should provide decent value, aside from an occasional lob Missi doesn't really do anything to raise the ceiling of the team.

He'd just serve as a long term replacement to Yak & I know you would agree that if we're going to do that then you might as well take a player who at least has the upside to be better than him (ie/ Ware or Edey). It's a bad use of assets & *opportunity* to simply find a way to tread water especially when you have far more pressing needs at other positions and there should be players that can actually UPGRADE that position ie/ SF or backup PG....3rd string C is not a need but a want/luxury, that's bad use of a scarce resource.

Of course you always want to find impact players and stars but I feel in the new cap era filling our bench out with rookie contracts will help us get pricier players for our starting line up

[CazOnReal]

This thread is now a Clint Capela stan thread.


Respect our Swiss king.

[YelloC]

I never even thought about getting Ware and Edey with our picks until now but I’m kind of intrigued.

[WuTang_CMB]

Forreal, have we even drafted a Canadian player with a Top 20 pick or am I just forgetting someone obvious?

nope. but tried to trade for tyler ennis in 14' bruno draft

[S.W.A.N]

I never even thought about getting Ware and Edey with our picks until now but I’m kind of intrigued.

Ware
Edey
Missi
Holmes
Chomche
Ighodoro
Bona

All of them should be on your radar as potential picks.

Hukporti
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Dante

are potential undrafted bigs as well to keep an eye on.

With our dire need for a back up big man there is a high probability that we pick/sign one of these guys.

[MEDIC]

I never even thought about getting Ware and Edey with our picks until now but I’m kind of intrigued.

My thoughts from the beginning were to pick 2 big men & see which one pans out. Fill back up PG & bench wings through trades/ FA signings. Good young bigs are hard to acquire.

[OAKLEY_2]

As noted above, some NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype believe Tidjane Salaun could go as high as No. 8 overall to the Spurs, and others believe his floor is the Oklahoma City Thunder at No. 12 overall.

It's Bilal happening all over again...

Yup! Spurs are taking Castle at 4 and Salaun at 8 is my call. Houston will take Reed Shepperd.

Edey is an OKC move esp. with Chet 7'1 and the same weoght as Chris Boucher. If Edey goes past there we have a much better chance. Edey and Jonathan Mo Boards would be a good draft.

[RoteSchroder]

I never even thought about getting Ware and Edey with our picks until now but I’m kind of intrigued.

Ware
Edey
Missi
Holmes
Chomche
Ighodoro
Bona

All of them should be on your radar as potential picks.

Hukporti
Post
Dante

are potential undrafted bigs as well to keep an eye on.

With our dire need for a back up big man there is a high probability that we pick/sign one of these guys.

Filipowski is another potential pick, although most on this board don't like him. The hope would be that he lands somewhere between Olynyk and Markannen.

I don't think Oso or Chomche are realistic, even at 31.

Johni Broome may be another potential undrafted dude to consider.

[PoundTown]

It's Bilal happening all over again...

Yup! Spurs are taking Castle at 4 and Salaun at 8 is my call. Houston will take Reed Shepperd.

Edey is an OKC move esp. with Chet 7'1 and the same weoght as Chris Boucher. If Edey goes past there we have a much better chance. Edey and Jonathan Mo Boards would be a good draft.

OKC just really needs a lively or a claxton type of big. Someone that is good enough to finish games against the matchups they need them to, And help the defence, but if the matchup doesn’t call for it, you have Chet finish the game at Center. Will be interesting to see what direction they go. Clingan would be perfect for them too actually. Wonder if they could move up with giddey and 12 and grab him.

[DreamTeam09]

Just seeing how much our fans are discussing Edey, it's very easy to see why MLSE would push Masai to draft him at 19 lol I'm not saying that's what's happening but just you can tell he'd be a big ratings grab at minimum for the franchise....

Of course I don't mean that he'd get attention like a LBJ, Curry etc. But clearly he'd become a pretty hot topic for the team and bring the franchise a bit more attention just by virtue of him being different physically from most humans lol. Personally I'm ok with taking him as long as we move Poeltl for something because while he's obviously not gonna be as good as Yak in Year 1, I honestly don't think he'd be that far off and him not being at that level immediately is actually a good thing that will help improve our pick next year in a deep draft & I'd think in a year or two once Big Z has adjusted to the league he'd pretty much be on par (if not better) than Yak.

If picking him at 19 is a huge question mark for some, just consider they could have secured him in last year's draft in early 2nd round by offering guaranteed money. The risk/reward was easy at that stage. That's if they were proactive.

Or maybe he goes back to school regardless to ensure he's not a 2nd round pick. Like exactly what happened

[CPT]

"I'm not interested in _______ 2.0."

This is the worst thing about draft conversations. Relying heavily on player comps is something I'm super guilty of as well, because it's just a nice tidy way to understand things. It may come as a surprise, but I don't actually know what the hell is going on on a basketball court to the level of an NBA assistant coach or scout. I think I do alright as a fan, but that's about it.

When we just use player comps, I think we still need to have a ceiling and floor. A lot of the times the real floor is a guy who was out of the league or never even made it.

Like, if you were guaranteed that Missi was a clone of Clint Capela, no better, no worse, he should be in the mix for #1 in this draft, and we should be doing backflips if we landed him at #19.

That makes the discussion boring though.

If his range is between Clint Capela and Pape Sow, it's a different conversation. And maybe it would be valid to not be excited about a guy who tops out at Capela. Or maybe there's some nuance to how likely it is he will be Capela, maybe with a chance of exceeding it. But at least there's something to talk about. When it's just "I'm not interested in Capela 2.0" followed by 10 people saying "Capela at 19 in a bad draft is good, actually," it's not worth anyone's time.

[ItsDanger]

Just seeing how much our fans are discussing Edey, it's very easy to see why MLSE would push Masai to draft him at 19 lol I'm not saying that's what's happening but just you can tell he'd be a big ratings grab at minimum for the franchise....

Of course I don't mean that he'd get attention like a LBJ, Curry etc. But clearly he'd become a pretty hot topic for the team and bring the franchise a bit more attention just by virtue of him being different physically from most humans lol. Personally I'm ok with taking him as long as we move Poeltl for something because while he's obviously not gonna be as good as Yak in Year 1, I honestly don't think he'd be that far off and him not being at that level immediately is actually a good thing that will help improve our pick next year in a deep draft & I'd think in a year or two once Big Z has adjusted to the league he'd pretty much be on par (if not better) than Yak.

If picking him at 19 is a huge question mark for some, just consider they could have secured him in last year's draft in early 2nd round by offering guaranteed money. The risk/reward was easy at that stage. That's if they were proactive.

Or maybe he goes back to school regardless to ensure he's not a 2nd round pick. Like exactly what happened

No, from his past comments and coach, it was the money.

[deeps6x]

Tennessee vs Purdue in the Elite 8.

Knecht drops 37, Edey drops 40. OK, fine. The two of them dominated the game. They were really just trading buckets with little D being played on either end. They had 2 assists combined. Tennessee led most of the game, but lost because of foul trouble keeping their bigs off the court, killing their rebounding. Purdue shot 20% from the 3 for the game.

I haven't found anyone who thinks Edey gets drafted before Knecht. Yeah, Knecht can shoot the 3. Well he's really a 3 level scorer. But should Knecht really be going before Edey? (ok, maybe in this league, as more teams are desperate for quality 3 pt shooting then massive, slow centers).

I actually expect to see Edey go in the lottery. If Masai wants him, we'll have to trade up. (with the Kings or Memphis)

UConn vs Purdue in the final

Edey drops 37, Newton drops 20 for UConn. They held Purdue's 3 pt shooters to just 14.3%. Castle, Clinghan, Karaban, Newton and Spencer all shot the 3 poorly, but really defended it well. Great D and coaching pretty much won the game for them. Little Cam Spencer almost had as many rebounds as Edey - who wasn't bad at 10 himself. The better team won. Their whole starting 5 could have been drafted this summer (but Karaban pulled out at the last minute right?). Can anyone even name the second best player on Purdue? Exactly.

Give me the guy who can put the whole team on his back and carry them to the finals, then surround him with a little playmaking and 3 point shooting talent. (and yes, Knecht nearly stopped Edey's run at the final 8, but he had a better supporting cast). I'm pretty sure the Spurs will take TWO of Sheppard, Knecht and Spencer (the three best 3 point shooters in the draft in my humble opinion).

[ForeverTFC]

If picking him at 19 is a huge question mark for some, just consider they could have secured him in last year's draft in early 2nd round by offering guaranteed money. The risk/reward was easy at that stage. That's if they were proactive.

Or maybe he goes back to school regardless to ensure he's not a 2nd round pick. Like exactly what happened

No, from his past comments and coach, it was the money.

So then you’re saying no team in the NBA was willing to offer him guaranteed money in the 2nd round? Not even the team with the 59th pick?

I wonder why you’re not in the league, being so proactive and all.

[ItsDanger]

Or maybe he goes back to school regardless to ensure he's not a 2nd round pick. Like exactly what happened

No, from his past comments and coach, it was the money.

So then you’re saying no team in the NBA was willing to offer him guaranteed money in the 2nd round? Not even the team with the 59th pick?

I wonder why you’re not in the league, being so proactive and all.

Lot of them withdraw due to lack of guaranteed money. His coach said he could have gotten drafted around late 30s. Its obviously a risk to only get 1 year guaranteed in 2nd round with uncertain role.

[TGM]

Saw some posts on Terrence Shannon jr.

Older prospect but...now that he's been cleared of charges might not be too bad as a second round pick

No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.

[Appostis]

Saw some posts on Terrence Shannon jr.

Older prospect but...now that he's been cleared of charges might not be too bad as a second round pick

No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.

Fair enough.
Even at 19 he looks like a solid get..

[ArthurVandelay]

Saw some posts on Terrence Shannon jr.

Older prospect but...now that he's been cleared of charges might not be too bad as a second round pick

No way Shannon makes it to the second round. He was the best player in NCAA this year. The guy can outright ball. He was one of the oldest players but he ate college players for lunch everyday.

I wouldn’t mind taking him at 19 if he is there. If we talk about upside guys this guy has the alpha in him. Think Antman type of Alpha. Not saying he is Antman level talent but he is highly underrated in this draft mainly cause of the age and rape allegations.

He’s 24

A man among boys